UEFA Champions League Draw | March 16, 2012

Quarters:
Barcelona v Benfica
APOEL v Bayern Munich

Marseille v Chelsea
AC Milan v R. Madrid

Semi:
Chelsea v Bayern
R.Madrid v Barcelona

Final:
Bayern Munich v Barcelona

Quarters:

Apoel Nicosia v Benfica
Marseille v Chelsea
Bayern Munich v Real Madrid
Barcelona v AC Milan

Semis:
Apoel v Barcelona
Real Madrid v Chelsea

Final:
Barelona v Real Madrid

Quarter finals:

Apoel vs Milan
Barcelona vs Benfica
Real Madrid vs Chelsea
Bayern Munich vs Marseille


Semi finals:

Milan vs Real Madrid
Barcelona vs Bayern Munich


Final:

Milan vs Bayern Munich

You would think the Italians will win

I now have the right to bump this thread and quote that when Milan win

Kuled wrote:I now have the right to bump this thread and quote that when Milan win

Do it

Kuled wrote:Quarter finals:

Apoel vs Milan
Barcelona vs Benfica
Real Madrid vs Chelsea
Bayern Munich vs Marseille


Semi finals:

Milan vs Real Madrid
Barcelona vs Bayern Munich


Final:

Milan vs Bayern Munich

Bayern Munich beating Barcelona? The chances of that are quite slim even though Bayern have one the deadliest attacks, their defence is worse than Barcelona's and that will be the reason why Barca will go through.

Who ever Barcelona get in the final, they'll beat em.

If Barcelona get Bayern in the final it can really go either way with bayern playing Home.

drivescore wrote:If Barcelona get Bayern in the final it can really go either way with bayern playing Home.

no it wouldnt

People need to stop thinking Barcelona are invincible, yes I also regard them as the best team in the world but on their day Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are capable of beating them.

Bayern

man people are so fickle.

Barca would destroy them anyday, especially in a big game like in the CL, the only chance of you beating barca is if they have alot of injuries or they are complacent... and they will never be complacent in a CL final. bayern wouldnt even touch barca, they are not even close to barca's or madrids level.

Do you watch Bayern play on a regular basis?

it doesnt matter, they arent even top in a league that is far weaker then la liga

i dont care even if they were 20 points top, they would not ever be able to compete with Madrid or Barca, simple as. they could compete with english clubs, but not barca or madrid. the only way barca wont win the CL is if madrid knocks them out

i see bayern is one of your 20 million supported clubs, that explains alot. no need to further this

ViVaRooney wrote:it doesnt matter, they arent even top in a league that is far weaker then la liga

i dont care even if they were 20 points top, they would not ever be able to compete with Madrid or Barca, simple as. they could compete with english clubs, but not barca or madrid. the only way barca wont win the CL is if madrid knocks them out

i see bayern is one of your 20 million supported clubs, that explains alot. no need to further this

Weaker League? Aside from the Top 2 of La Liga which Bayern can compare with but no other team can the rest of the league is of a much higher quality than La Liga.

It's pretty ignorant to say Bayern cannot knock our Barcelona if they are at their best with both wingers on form.Because if Robben and Ribery have a good game Bayern are capable of taking on any team.The midfield of Bayern would not be totally out run because of the fluidity it gets through Bastian and Kroos who both keep the ball very well, not as good as Xavi and co. but well enough to find space and create chances.You don't even watch the Bundesliga so judging it on league standings is pretty stupid, I think Barcelona is still better than Madrid but they are coming second by 10 points.Also I will say it again I don't expect Bayern to beat Barcelona with ease, Barcelona are favorites and are more likely to win but I think if Bayern played them they have a chance, especially in a CL Final when they will be at their best fighting for Europeon glory on their own ground.

The last sentence was a pointless dig at me so I don't care about that

they would have a chance, as much as wolves would have a chance against barca... cause in football anything can happen. but that would be their only chance.. a miracle

If you are saying that Bayern have as much a chance against Barcelona as wolves then I don't know what to say.

You guys haven't watched APOEL this season I guess.

drivescore wrote:If you are saying that Bayern have as much a chance against Barcelona as wolves then I don't know what to say.

i am not comparing wolves to bayern... i am comparing their chances against barca which would be about the same cause it doesnt matter if bayern have better players then wolves, at the end of the day they are still not even close to barca and they would need a miracle to beat barca. do you get what i am getting at

if barca show up they would destroy bayern, end of. doesnt matter how bayern play

drivescore wrote:If Barcelona get Bayern in the final it can really go either way with bayern playing Home.

People are quick to forget what Barcelona can do to any team in this world. When Real had that run of unbeaten games at the start of the season, the majority of people were quick to say "Real's got this, they'll destroy Barcelona etc" but look what happened. Barcelona dominated the game yet again in the Madrid's stadium. Bayern's defence is very weak with only Lahm being a stand out performer, but he'll be playing Rb/Lb where he can only do so much.

I understand where you're coming from saying it's a one off, they're at home this and that. You could say the same for Man Utd last season although it was in London and they've played there quite a few times. A couple years back in the Uefa Cup, Sporting Lisbon were at home and got fucked 4-0 forgot what Russian team it was, but I'm sure Vagner Love was in the team. Home advantage counts fuck all against Barcelona, they will dominate the game on Bayern's patch and win it.

Barcelona's been to 3 finals since 2006 and won all 3, can't see why they can't make it 4 finals and 4 victories.

ViVaRooney wrote:

drivescore wrote:If you are saying that Bayern have as much a chance against Barcelona as wolves then I don't know what to say.

i am not comparing wolves to bayern... i am comparing their chances against barca which would be about the same cause it doesnt matter if bayern have better players then wolves, at the end of the day they are still not even close to barca and they would need a miracle to beat barca. do you get what i am getting at

if barca show up they would destroy bayern, end of. doesnt matter how bayern play

What I'm trying to say as well. Whatever tactics you play against other teams teams work well, but against Barcelona as much as I dislike them you will end up playing their game in a Champions league final and that is basically:

Run....run.....run....get tired.....sit back......get picked apart.....pick ball out of net......pick ball out of net x2.....get a break away.......pick ball out of net x3.......half time.......run.....sit back......pick ball out of net x4.......get a consilation.......pick up losers medal......watch them walk past you as you honour them like they walked passed your defence....they pick up trophy.....you try again next year

drivescore wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:it doesnt matter, they arent even top in a league that is far weaker then la liga

i dont care even if they were 20 points top, they would not ever be able to compete with Madrid or Barca, simple as. they could compete with english clubs, but not barca or madrid. the only way barca wont win the CL is if madrid knocks them out

i see bayern is one of your 20 million supported clubs, that explains alot. no need to further this

Weaker League? Aside from the Top 2 of La Liga which Bayern can compare with but no other team can the rest of the league is of a much higher quality than La Liga.

Valencia, Bilbao, Atlético >>> Dortmund, Gladbach, Schalke
People seriously understimate La Liga's 'other' teams, there isn't a big gap between Real/Barca and the rest because the league is poor but because the top 2 who are outstanding
Athletic beat the English champions and current leaders comfortably at home while sitting at 7th in the table atm.

Gegilworld93 wrote:

drivescore wrote:

Weaker League? Aside from the Top 2 of La Liga which Bayern can compare with but no other team can the rest of the league is of a much higher quality than La Liga.

Valencia, Bilbao, Atlético >>> Dortmund, Gladbach, Schalke
People seriously understimate La Liga's 'other' teams, there isn't a big gap between Real/Barca and the rest because the league is poor but because the top 2 who are outstanding
Athletic beat the English champions and current leaders comfortably at home while sitting at 7th in the table atm.

I do agree with your post, but Dortmund are better than the 3 spanish teams you stated.

19Jones19v wrote:

Gegilworld93 wrote:
Valencia, Bilbao, Atlético >>> Dortmund, Gladbach, Schalke
People seriously understimate La Liga's 'other' teams, there isn't a big gap between Real/Barca and the rest because the league is poor but because the top 2 who are outstanding
Athletic beat the English champions and current leaders comfortably at home while sitting at 7th in the table atm.

I do agree with your post, but Dortmund are better than the 3 spanish teams you stated.

Only on paper and that's arguable.

Dortmund can't perform in Europe. We will see if they can fix that next season.

Dortmund are better than all 3.
Shalke are a quality side, they reached the UCL semi finals.
Gladbach are not good if you look at their team sheet but they way they play is amazing, they defend together, attack at pace and play some glorious football.

Based on this seasons performances I would say Dortmund>Valencia>Gladbach>Athletico>Bilbao=Shalke

You talk about underrating La Liga but lots of people underrate The Bundeliga as well.

Lu❣s Suarez wrote:

19Jones19v wrote:I do agree with your post, but Dortmund are better than the 3 spanish teams you stated.

Only on paper and that's arguable.

Dortmund can't perform in Europe. We will see if they can fix that next season.

On paper Gladbach are probably the worst of the six but if you watch them play you will see that's not the case.

drivescore wrote:

Lus Suarez wrote:Only on paper and that's arguable.

Dortmund can't perform in Europe. We will see if they can fix that next season.

On paper Gladbach are probably the worst of the six but if you watch them play you will see that's not the case.

By that same argument, Legia Warszawa is as good as these clubs.

I've seen Gladbach play, they are a fantastic side and I have tons of respect for, as I do for Dortmund (i've watched every game of theirs since the new year) but as good sides as they are, they are only equal if not slightly weaker than Valencia, Atletico and Athletic and will remain so until they prove otherwise in Europe.

I watch Bundesliga too, and Gladbach are nice to watch, hope to see them in the CL next season, looks likely since Bundesliga has 4 spots now.

Dortmund have been dreadful in Europe to say the least for the past two seasons, out in the EL group stage and last in their CL group behind Olympiakos this season. I think they just don't have enough depht for Europe.

Against us in both matches they dominated, it's finishing teams off in Europe they found difficult this year. They got complacent against Marseille and only beat Olympiakos at home. They'll know doubt be more prepared next season.

Other than being knocked out early in the Cypriot Cup APOEL is very solid and not a team to mess with.

I do hope APOEL win the CL.

That would mean the only team close to knocking the champions out would be Wisla Krakow.