The Atheist Thread

SBSP wrote:Why do you even give a fuck?

Theo Filippo wrote:Religions affect everyone, even non-believers.

I wish you & Ahly would actually answer some of the points that have been raised rather than engaging in red herrings.

The Zlatan wrote:I don't want to get involved in this but, Grenade, have you tried bacon yet? And if so, do you feel that it's been hyped up way too much and isn't really anything special?

SBSP wrote:I don't see why it's a problem to ask someone more knowledgeable for their reasoning and defer to their opinion if they're better at explaining something. If you asked me about the political history of the United States, I'd be able to tell you enough to give you a broad overview, but you'd be better off asking someone educated if you wanted something more specific and possibly subjective. If I only skimmed a few chapters from a couple of books and looked at some timelines, then declaring myself an expert on the subject just makes me a delusional cunt who's full of himself and probably needs to grow up.

As for the statement itself, it's childish and cringeworthy as fuck. Exactly what I'd expect from a YouTube comment on religion.

Grenade wrote:

The Zlatan wrote:I don't want to get involved in this but, Grenade, have you tried bacon yet? And if so, do you feel that it's been hyped up way too much and isn't really anything special?

Nah not tried it yet. I have tried bacon flavored things like crisps back when I was a muslim since they were considered halal as no actual meat is used to produce them and I hated it. You seem to be talking from experience? Were you once a religious person too?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Grenade wrote:
You were once a Christian? What?

As for FCB's solid + undeniable evidence proving gods existence...
That is one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard in my entire life.

Yes, I was brought up Catholic and was quite into it for a while.

It's up there for me, but I think the most stupid thing he ever said (or I ever heard) was that the allies should have taken land from Germany immediately after World War II and established a Jewish state there right next to the people who'd just tried to do a genocide on them.

SBSP wrote:I don't see why it's a problem to ask someone more knowledgeable for their reasoning and defer to their opinion if they're better at explaining something. If you asked me about the political history of the United States, I'd be able to tell you enough to give you a broad overview, but you'd be better off asking someone educated if you wanted something more specific and possibly subjective. If I only skimmed a few chapters from a couple of books and looked at some timelines, then declaring myself an expert on the subject just makes me a delusional cunt who's full of himself and probably needs to grow up.

As for the statement itself, it's childish and cringeworthy as fuck. Exactly what I'd expect from a YouTube comment on religion.

You want to know what's cringeworthy as fuck?  Adults believing the following

• A magical beings created the world and wrote books about it thousands of years ago
  
• We have to believe what's written in those books today or the magical being will read our minds and find out then torture us forever after we're dead
  
• ...but if you do believe in him he will take you to paradise forever
  
• That a man can split the moon in two but nobody else in the world notices
  
• That meteors exist to keep Satans from getting to space to listen in on God talking with his friends
  
• That we got asked if we wanted to exist/have free will before we existed/had free will and used our free will (which we didn't have yet) to say Yes
  
• That people can fly to heaven on horses with wings.  
  
• That the omnipotent being who created this world with such an immense amount of suffering among animals and will send most of the population to suffer forever if they don't worship him is a good being worthy of that worship rather than being a twisted egomaniacal monster
  

Tell me honestly - do you believe in all that total fucking crap or do you think the Qur'an is fallible?

Grenade wrote:

SBSP wrote:I don't see why it's a problem to ask someone more knowledgeable for their reasoning and defer to their opinion if they're better at explaining something. If you asked me about the political history of the United States, I'd be able to tell you enough to give you a broad overview, but you'd be better off asking someone educated if you wanted something more specific and possibly subjective. If I only skimmed a few chapters from a couple of books and looked at some timelines, then declaring myself an expert on the subject just makes me a delusional cunt who's full of himself and probably needs to grow up.

As for the statement itself, it's childish and cringeworthy as fuck. Exactly what I'd expect from a YouTube comment on religion.

You're the type of person Hitler would've recruited. Wouldn't be surprised if you joined ISIS one day. A Muslim who can't think for him/herself is the most dangerous type of Muslim.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Yes, I was brought up Catholic and was quite into it for a while.

It's up there for me, but I think the most stupid thing he ever said (or I ever heard) was that the allies should have taken land from Germany immediately after World War II and established a Jewish state there right next to the people who'd just tried to do a genocide on them.



You want to know what's cringeworthy as fuck?  Adults believing the following

• A magical beings created the world and wrote books about it thousands of years ago
  
• We have to believe what's written in those books today or the magical being will read our minds and find out then torture us forever after we're dead
  
• ...but if you do believe in him he will take you to paradise forever
  
• That a man can split the moon in two but nobody else in the world notices
  
• That meteors exist to keep Satans from getting to space to listen in on God talking with his friends
  
• That we got asked if we wanted to exist/have free will before we existed/had free will and used our free will (which we didn't have yet) to say Yes
  
• That people can fly to heaven on horses with wings.  
  
• That the omnipotent being who created this world with such an immense amount of suffering among animals and will send most of the population to suffer forever if they don't worship him is a good being worthy of that worship rather than being a twisted egomaniacal monster
  

Tell me honestly - do you believe in all that total fucking crap or do you think the Qur'an is fallible?

Please answer this.

• A magical being created the world and wrote books about it thousands of years ago
  
• We have to believe what's written in those books today or the magical being will read our minds and find out then torture us forever after we're dead
  
• ...but if you do believe in him he will take you to paradise forever
  
• That a man can split the moon in two but nobody else in the world notices
  
• That meteors exist to keep Satans from getting to space to listen in on God talking with his friends
  
• That we got asked if we wanted to exist/have free will before we existed/had free will and used our free will (which we didn't have yet) to say Yes
  
• That people can fly to heaven on horses with wings.  
  
• That the omnipotent being who created this world with such an immense amount of suffering among animals and will send most of the population to suffer forever if they don't worship him is a good being worthy of that worship rather than being a twisted egomaniacal monster
  

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Let's talk about the uneducated idiotic crap people believe in.

• A magical being created the world and wrote books about it thousands of years ago
  
• We have to believe what's written in those books today or the magical being will read our minds and find out then torture us forever after we're dead
  
• ...but if you do believe in him he will take you to paradise forever
  
• That a man can split the moon in two but nobody else in the world notices
  
• That meteors exist to keep Satans from getting to space to listen in on God talking with his friends
  
• That we got asked if we wanted to exist/have free will before we existed/had free will and used our free will (which we didn't have yet) to say Yes
  
• That people can fly to heaven on horses with wings.  
  
• That the omnipotent being who created this world with such an immense amount of suffering among animals and will send most of the population to suffer forever if they don't worship him is a good being worthy of that worship rather than being a twisted egomaniacal monster
  

Is anyone here not too ashamed to admit they believe all that?  Heard of critical thinking?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

• That a man can split the moon in two but nobody else in the world notices
  

FCB wrote:Nobody said that the moon was literally split into two. Some say it was an optical illusion. Doesn't really matter either way because it was a miracle like Moses splitting the sea.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Grenade wrote:
Not really, but I do remember getting absolutely roasted by him in a religious debate on Skype a very long time ago. 

Randomly seen this on YouTube today, is this the same guy on this forum?


Not sure if you're just saying this to take the piss, but this was the actual reason I first started questioning my beliefs. "God said this in the quran, but what he REALLY meant was this" is something I was too used to hearing by muslims to cover up the contradictions or barbaric messages in the quran.




There's no reliable evidence that shows religion makes people happier and have self control. In fact the only evidence out there seems to suggest the opposite. Religion is a massive burden on people and religious responsibilities such as praying 5 times a day puts a lot of pressure on people, especially when they think they'll go to hell if they don't fulfill their religious duties.




Just curious but what would you consider to be "reasonable evidence" that this real god exists?

Very much doubt it.  There are a lot of unoriginal internet people who name themselves after that film character.

Theo Filippo wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Let's talk about the uneducated idiotic crap people believe in.

• A magical being created the world and wrote books about it thousands of years ago
  
• We have to believe what's written in those books today or the magical being will read our minds and find out then torture us forever after we're dead
  
• ...but if you do believe in him he will take you to paradise forever
  
• That a man can split the moon in two but nobody else in the world notices
  
• That meteors exist to keep Satans from getting to space to listen in on God talking with his friends
  
• That we got asked if we wanted to exist/have free will before we existed/had free will and used our free will (which we didn't have yet) to say Yes
  
• That people can fly to heaven on horses with wings.  
  
• That the omnipotent being who created this world with such an immense amount of suffering among animals and will send most of the population to suffer forever if they don't worship him is a good being worthy of that worship rather than being a twisted egomaniacal monster
  

Is anyone here not too ashamed to admit they believe all that?  Heard of critical thinking?

I love how you never got an answer  

I believe it was that God created stars rather than meteors to throw at Satans to stop them listening in.

FCB wrote:Nobody said that the moon was literally split into two. Some say it was an optical illusion. Doesn't really matter either way because it was a miracle like Moses splitting the sea.

Keyser Söze wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Very much doubt it.  There are a lot of unoriginal internet people who name themselves after that film character.

Almost as bad as someone on a football forum naming themselves after a football player

Also, @Grenade you know you'll always be a packi, right? Whatever religion you choose to believe in or not when you walk down the street white people (and people in general) will always see you as a less than filthy muslim packi. You'll never shake that tag.

FCB wrote:Nobody said that the moon was literally split into two. Some say it was an optical illusion. Doesn't really matter either way because it was a miracle like Moses splitting the sea.

Grenade wrote:

Theo Filippo wrote:
I love how you never got an answer  

I believe it was that God created stars rather than meteors to throw at Satans to stop them listening in.

I was actually interested to see what sort of replies this would get, but I think they all shat themselves.

FCB wrote:Nobody said that the moon was literally split into two. Some say it was an optical illusion. Doesn't really matter either way because it was a miracle like Moses splitting the sea.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Witnessing_the_Moon_Splitting_Miracle
If it was an optical illusion then doesn't that kinda show that Muhammad was full of shit and performed fake miracles?

Keyser Söze wrote:
Almost as bad as someone on a football forum naming themselves after a football player

Also, @Grenade you know you'll always be a packi, right? Whatever religion you choose to believe in or not when you walk down the street white people (and people in general) will always see you as a less than filthy muslim packi. You'll never shake that tag.

Wow you must be a lovely person irl. I've actually never been a victim of racism but thanks anyway for the solid life tip.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:It must piss you off that you can't kill him for apostasy and instead have to resort to pathetic racial abuse.

Grenade wrote:Wow you must be a lovely person irl. I've actually never been a victim of racism but thanks anyway for the solid life tip.