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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:06 pm

    Probably Mark Henry and Big Show's match, considering Mark Henry was the one who put him out of action in the storyline.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:13 pm

    Cena constantly plugging Zack Ryder is starting to turn me off Ryder facepalm
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:21 pm

    OMFG I JUST MARKED THE FUCK OUT.. BAWH GAWD ITS KANE!!!!!!!!!!
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    Post by Demoz Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:24 pm

    Pretty good show! Surprised Cena gave up a title shot so Ryder could have one.
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:54 pm

    Great Raw. Good title match without Cena as well. Fatal 4 way with Ziggler would be better though, fuck you Ryder...

    Barrett now in my top 3!

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    Post by Van Wolfswinkel Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:05 pm

    Starting to think these promos are too dark to be Jericho.
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:12 pm

    Could be Kharma shifty
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:12 am

    Crazy

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    Post by CM Monk Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:36 am

    Kharma she's getting married shifty

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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:10 am

    Bit weird that two faces did completely heel moves by distracting. Cena's especially was annoying. There is a line here.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:17 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:Bit weird that two faces did completely heel moves by distracting. Cena's especially was annoying. There is a line here.

    Who's the other face? Not Barrett, surely?
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:24 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:Bit weird that two faces did completely heel moves by distracting. Cena's especially was annoying. There is a line here.

    Who's the other face? Not Barrett, surely?

    Ryder.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:27 am

    I was thinking about that too a while back. Cena is supposed to be a role model, always fair, never breaks the rules etc etc yet he agreed to fight Mysterio after Mysterio had a match earlier in the night.. surely thats not something Super Cena should be doing think
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:36 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    Who's the other face? Not Barrett, surely?

    Ryder.
    Ah yeah, forgot about that.
    VivaRonaldo wrote:I was thinking about that too a while back. Cena is supposed to be a role model, always fair, never breaks the rules etc etc yet he agreed to fight Mysterio after Mysterio had a match earlier in the night.. surely thats not something Super Cena should be doing think

    I was sort of expecting a heel turn when Ryder was going apeshit at him, same last week with Roddy Piper.

    I read this plan a while ago about how the PG era could end, it was gloriously unrealistic, had Kurt Angle, Scott Hall, Brock Lesnar, Mick Foley, RVD etc. coming back and beating the fuck out of each other with chairs and all sorts. Ended with Cena being drafted to Smackdown, calling Mysterio down to the ring to say goodbye, then beating the fuck out of him, FUing him through a table smashing his head with a chair, grabbing a mic in front of all the horrified kids and saying "Fuck PG, Chain Gang for life". Was hoping to see Ryder in Mysterio's position.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:40 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:

    Ryder.
    Ah yeah, forgot about that.
    VivaRonaldo wrote:I was thinking about that too a while back. Cena is supposed to be a role model, always fair, never breaks the rules etc etc yet he agreed to fight Mysterio after Mysterio had a match earlier in the night.. surely thats not something Super Cena should be doing think

    I was sort of expecting a heel turn when Ryder was going apeshit at him, same last week with Roddy Piper.

    I read this plan a while ago about how the PG era could end, it was gloriously unrealistic, had Kurt Angle, Scott Hall, Brock Lesnar, Mick Foley, RVD etc. coming back and beating the fuck out of each other with chairs and all sorts. Ended with Cena being drafted to Smackdown, calling Mysterio down to the ring to say goodbye, then beating the fuck out of him, FUing him through a table smashing his head with a chair, grabbing a mic in front of all the horrified kids and saying "Fuck PG, Chain Gang for life". Was hoping to see Ryder in Mysterio's position.

    Where did you read that? shifty

    They are kinda toning down on all the PG shit though, and these freaky promo's definately aint PG style (Kane & Those ItBegins).. but aslong as Cena's merchandise sales are going through the roof he wont go Heel and PG definately wont go either.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:44 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Ah yeah, forgot about that.


    I was sort of expecting a heel turn when Ryder was going apeshit at him, same last week with Roddy Piper.

    I read this plan a while ago about how the PG era could end, it was gloriously unrealistic, had Kurt Angle, Scott Hall, Brock Lesnar, Mick Foley, RVD etc. coming back and beating the fuck out of each other with chairs and all sorts. Ended with Cena being drafted to Smackdown, calling Mysterio down to the ring to say goodbye, then beating the fuck out of him, FUing him through a table smashing his head with a chair, grabbing a mic in front of all the horrified kids and saying "Fuck PG, Chain Gang for life". Was hoping to see Ryder in Mysterio's position.

    Where did you read that? shifty

    They are kinda toning down on all the PG shit though, and these freaky promo's definately aint PG style (Kane & Those ItBegins).. but aslong as Cena's merchandise sales are going through the roof he wont go Heel and PG definately wont go either.

    It was just some guy's fantasy on a forum. I agree that they won't depart from PG, and a couple of weeks ago I'd have agreed with you on the heel thing, but that Piper's Pit that he did, it seemed to be going in that direction. They did it with Hogan in WCW and that was extremely popular.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:51 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:

    Where did you read that? shifty

    They are kinda toning down on all the PG shit though, and these freaky promo's definately aint PG style (Kane & Those ItBegins).. but aslong as Cena's merchandise sales are going through the roof he wont go Heel and PG definately wont go either.

    It was just some guy's fantasy on a forum. I agree that they won't depart from PG, and a couple of weeks ago I'd have agreed with you on the heel thing, but that Piper's Pit that he did, it seemed to be going in that direction. They did it with Hogan in WCW and that was extremely popular.

    The thing is though, they dont have anyone near as marketable as Cena as a face.. kids, women and even grown men like him... who could you see taking over from him? When Hogan turned heel fans went mental at first, throwing shit in the ring etc.. WWE would want nothing like that now because of Linda running in that Senate Campaign and her obvious connections with Vince and WWE. It gives her a bad name, shes part of the reason we dont see chairshots to the head or blood anymore.
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:53 am

    Hasn't she failed yet? Jesus.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:59 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
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    It was just some guy's fantasy on a forum. I agree that they won't depart from PG, and a couple of weeks ago I'd have agreed with you on the heel thing, but that Piper's Pit that he did, it seemed to be going in that direction. They did it with Hogan in WCW and that was extremely popular.

    The thing is though, they dont have anyone near as marketable as Cena as a face.. kids, women and even grown men like him... who could you see taking over from him? When Hogan turned heel fans went mental at first, throwing shit in the ring etc.. WWE would want nothing like that now because of Linda running in that Senate Campaign and her obvious connections with Vince and WWE. It gives her a bad name, shes part of the reason we dont see chairshots to the head or blood anymore.

    Randy Orton. All he has to do is say 'My name is Randy Orton' and the crowd go fucking mental. CM Punk, Zack Ryder and The Miz are pretty big as well. The Miz himself is a complete bastard of course, but Mike Mizanin is a good talker, going on TV shows and such, presenting at awards ceremonies. I doubt people would throw shit in the ring these days, the crowd's not nearly as hardcore as it used to be.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:01 am

    Orton maybe.. but like I said.. I cant see it happening unless his merchandise sales drop alot.. until then he will always be a face imo.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:02 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:Hasn't she failed yet? Jesus.

    She did this year, but she's going for it again next year.
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:40 am

    Miz looks like a face. Just the way he is always the underdog, he's got a good look as well(which does it for posters, mags etc) and he is great on the mic and makes shit things (like subway) seem mildly funny.

    Punk shoUld retain at TLC. Keep him with the title till Royal Rumble time I reckon and pass it to Ziggler. Or, have Ziggler win the rumble.
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:34 am

    Lilian Garcia's back as the smackdown announcer.



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    Post by Demoz Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:03 pm

    So good on the mic. WWE Chat Thread  - The Truth shall set you free! - Page 22 78335
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:08 am

    He's lurking in the shadows of the WWE Universe.

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    Post by Demoz Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:23 am

    Kane returning with the mask might be exciting for a few shows, but he's getting up there in age and he won't look like the Big Red Machine of the past.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:33 am

    10RLegend wrote:Kane returning with the mask might be exciting for a few shows, but he's getting up there in age and he won't look like the Big Red Machine of the past.

    If anything age helps if he goes back to his old self.. being machine like = not having to move much Laughing
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:39 am

    It's not as good now, we know what he looks like now.
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    Post by Demoz Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:47 am

    His entrance was pretty cool though in those days, the theme song, the Red lighting, smoke, and fire/explosive in the ring.
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    Post by Demoz Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:46 pm

    And the return of Super Orton. Neutral

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