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    Foreign owners 'want end to Premier League relegation'

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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:56 am

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15336398.stm

    Several foreign-owned Premier League clubs want to scrap relegation, according to League Managers Association (LMA) chief Richard Bevan.

    Bevan fears that if more clubs are sold to foreign investors they may have enough votes to force changes.

    But the Premier League said relegation and promotion were part of its rules and added to the league's strength.

    Bevan hopes that a parliamentary inquiry into football goverance would also help prevent the proposal.

    "We're very keen that the report is successful in helping the Football Association introduce a licensing programme for clubs," he said.

    "Because there are a number of overseas-owned clubs already talking about bringing about the avoidance of promotion and relegation in the Premier League.

    "If we have four or five more new owners, that could happen."

    Nearly half of the Premier League's 20 clubs are under foreign ownership, with rules stipulating that if changes are to be made to the format, 14 clubs must vote in favour of any new reforms.

    Blackburn joined the likes of Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea in this class when they were taken over by Indian-owned Venky's Group last season.

    But the Premier League told BBC Sport that the move would be a non-starter, with the Football Association retaining the power to veto any proposals.

    The Premier League clubs have not formally discussed any such move since Bolton chairman Phil Gartside proposed his two-tiered structure two years ago, an idea which was soon dismissed.

    However, Bevan still believes it is a possibility, arguing any new owner of a Premier League club would not need to be foreign for them to see there would be money to be made from scrapping relegation.

    "It doesn't really matter if you're from overseas or not, does it?" he said. "It doesn't matter whether you're from Birmingham or you're from Burma."

    A Premier League spokesman said that they did not recognise LMA chief executive Bevan's claims, which come a week after the government demanded changes to the way that football is run.

    Sports minister Hugh Robertson said that an FA-led licensing system would be brought in to safeguard against issues such as financial mismanagement, asset-stripping owners and tax avoidance.

    The government also asked for rules to manage club debts and an overhaul of the FA board.

    Last Wednesday, Liverpool's managing director Ian Ayre said the Premier League's overseas television revenues should be skewed in favour of big clubs.


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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:01 am

    Saw this on another forum, oh dear.
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    Post by Kuled Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:08 am

    kyro7 wrote:Saw this on another forum, oh dear.
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    Post by Grenade Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:13 am

    James wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15336398.stm

    Several foreign-owned Premier League clubs want to scrap relegation, according to League Managers Association (LMA) chief Richard Bevan.

    Bevan fears that if more clubs are sold to foreign investors they may have enough votes to force changes.

    But the Premier League said relegation and promotion were part of its rules and added to the league's strength.

    Bevan hopes that a parliamentary inquiry into football goverance would also help prevent the proposal.

    "We're very keen that the report is successful in helping the Football Association introduce a licensing programme for clubs," he said.

    "Because there are a number of overseas-owned clubs already talking about bringing about the avoidance of promotion and relegation in the Premier League.

    "If we have four or five more new owners, that could happen."

    Nearly half of the Premier League's 20 clubs are under foreign ownership, with rules stipulating that if changes are to be made to the format, 14 clubs must vote in favour of any new reforms.

    Blackburn joined the likes of Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea in this class when they were taken over by Indian-owned Venky's Group last season.

    But the Premier League told BBC Sport that the move would be a non-starter, with the Football Association retaining the power to veto any proposals.

    The Premier League clubs have not formally discussed any such move since Bolton chairman Phil Gartside proposed his two-tiered structure two years ago, an idea which was soon dismissed.

    However, Bevan still believes it is a possibility, arguing any new owner of a Premier League club would not need to be foreign for them to see there would be money to be made from scrapping relegation.

    "It doesn't really matter if you're from overseas or not, does it?" he said. "It doesn't matter whether you're from Birmingham or you're from Burma."

    A Premier League spokesman said that they did not recognise LMA chief executive Bevan's claims, which come a week after the government demanded changes to the way that football is run.

    Sports minister Hugh Robertson said that an FA-led licensing system would be brought in to safeguard against issues such as financial mismanagement, asset-stripping owners and tax avoidance.

    The government also asked for rules to manage club debts and an overhaul of the FA board.

    Last Wednesday, Liverpool's managing director Ian Ayre said the Premier League's overseas television revenues should be skewed in favour of big clubs.


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    Post by LFC_Grunners Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:19 am

    Well they can fuck off back to the Middle east/ America if they wanna change the rules, see how much money they can make in their own counries facepalm
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:24 am

    I can see why they would want to this.

    But, I disagree with it.
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    Post by The Zlatan Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:40 am

    I wonder which ones are complaining, definitely the Blackburn and QPR owners.
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    Post by Grenade Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:41 am

    Wenger. He was probably shitting himself about relegation What a Face
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:31 am

    Shocking idea.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:37 am

    How would they determine which 20 clubs would stay in the PL?

    Would they use the current 20, or perhaps choose the 20 most successful English teams, so big clubs with big fanbases such as West Ham, Leeds, Forest etc are taken into consideration.

    Ridiculous idea anyway, stupid foreign pricks.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:37 am

    Why don't the LMA say which clubs are behind this idea.

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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:43 am

    This is a load of bollocks.. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:47 am

    LFC_Grunners wrote:Well they can fuck off back to the Middle east/ America if they wanna change the rules, see how much money they can make in their own counries facepalm

    They would make much more. The reason they are so rich is due to their investments back home. Neutral
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:53 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    LFC_Grunners wrote:Well they can fuck off back to the Middle east/ America if they wanna change the rules, see how much money they can make in their own counries facepalm

    They would make much more. The reason they are so rich is due to their investments back home. Neutral
    In football.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:58 am

    Fuck me, English football has turned to shit.

    Maybe we should just make an elite league and let the rest of the English clubs reform to Divisions 1,2,3.
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    Post by LFC_Grunners Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:10 am

    Zlatan wrote:I wonder which ones are complaining, definitely the Blackburn and QPR owners.

    I doubt its the new QPR owner, Tony Fernandes is a really really nice bloke from what I've seen of him in F-1 It's the old guy who is a cunt, Bernie Ecclestone is a money grabbing cunt and has shown he is willing to tarnish the F1 sport for more money so I can see him doing the same in football. Also I think Flavio still has a large share in QPR and he is cunt who has been banned from F1 for life due to cheating and putting peoples lives at risk.

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    LFC_Grunners wrote:Well they can fuck off back to the Middle east/ America if they wanna change the rules, see how much money they can make in their own counries facepalm

    They would make much more. The reason they are so rich is due to their investments back home. Neutral

    I meant in Football.
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    Post by LFC_Grunners Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:11 am

    Forest wrote:How would they determine which 20 clubs would stay in the PL?

    Would they use the current 20, or perhaps choose the 20 most successful English teams, so big clubs with big fanbases such as West Ham, Leeds, Forest etc are taken into consideration.

    Ridiculous idea anyway, stupid foreign pricks.

    Probably whoever has the biggest bank account Neutral
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:21 am

    So how would this work in theory?

    Would teams buy licenses from other teams to gain admission?

    What about teams from places like Leeds, Nottingham, Portsmouth and West Ham.. Big cities, big markets, big historic teams and big fanbases, but not in the Premier League.
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    Post by Jordi Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:23 am

    polska. wrote:So how would this work in theory?

    Would teams buy licenses from other teams to gain admission?

    What about teams from places like Leeds, Nottingham, Portsmouth and West Ham.. Big cities, big markets, big historic teams and big fanbases, but not in the Premier League.
    rofl rofl rofl
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:24 am

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    polska. wrote:So how would this work in theory?

    Would teams buy licenses from other teams to gain admission?

    What about teams from places like Leeds, Nottingham, Portsmouth and West Ham.. Big cities, big markets, big historic teams and big fanbases, but not in the Premier League.
    rofl rofl rofl
    Oh right, I knew I forgot a club. Foreign owners 'want end to Premier League relegation' 3925848005

    Don't see why you hating. Portsmouth are bigger of a club than most others in the Championship.
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    Post by Jordi Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:27 am

    polska. wrote:
    Jordi wrote: rofl rofl rofl
    Oh right, I knew I forgot a club. Foreign owners 'want end to Premier League relegation' 3925848005

    Don't see why you hating. Portsmouth are bigger of a club than most others in the Championship.
    Shame they sdon't have the attendances to back it up, Foreign owners 'want end to Premier League relegation' 3925848005
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    Post by ShakerMatty Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:18 am

    They do this in Rugby league and its so fucking boring! Would make the lower leagues pointless and would just be another stupid thing to football.
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    Post by easley91 Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:21 am

    Great so Crawley have finally started our climb to the summit and now we may not even have a chance at all? bollocks. Neutral
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:25 am

    polska. wrote:
    Jordi wrote: rofl rofl rofl
    Oh right, I knew I forgot a club. Foreign owners 'want end to Premier League relegation' 3925848005

    Don't see why you hating. Portsmouth are bigger of a club than most others in the Championship.

    There's at least 15 clubs bigger than portsmouth in the championship
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:27 am

    Don't like this idea at all, I'd much rather see a league were the teams are there by merit rather then who meets a certain criteria/was there first. Also you'd need some sort of incentive for the teams who don't have a realistic chance of finishing in the european places otherwise there would be too many meaningless games.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:29 am

    This would absolutely ruin the whole point of football.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:30 am

    Spastics.
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    Post by dena Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:00 am

    Works for MLS.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:00 am

    dena wrote:Works for MLS.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:15 am

    dena wrote:Works for MLS.

    Prime example of why we should stay well clear.

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