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    Should Lionel Messi be allowed to play?

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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:31 am

    Messi is a wonderful player, the best ever in my view, but there is a question over whether he should be allowed to play, in my great mind at least. Shameless Smith brought up this point and in this case he is right.

    What a lot of people don't know about Messi is that when he was younger, scientists at Barcelona pumped his body full of chemicals and hormones that were designed purely to enhance his performance on the football pitch by improving his growth to unnatural levels. The last time I checked, performance enhancing drugs were illegal under FIFA's rules, and for me, this should include long term performance enhancements that wouldn't be available to most people in the world.

    I believe that FIFA should permanently ban Messi, and FIFA, UEFA, the IOC, Primera Liga and the RSF should strip Barcelona and Argentina of all the titles they have won with him in their team, and award them to their closest rivals - ie. the 2nd placed team or the Finalists they defeated with the help of an enhanced player.

    What do you guys think - should football be a level playing field or should some players be enhanced using drugs?
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    Post by XavIniesta_6 Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:37 am

    That way Manchester United could have 2 more Champions Leagues

    In all seriousness though you do make a point about the growth hormone case.
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    Post by chemicalrubber Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:39 am

    "designed purely to enhance his performance on the football pitch by improving his growth to unnatural levels"

    Growth hormone is not a performance-enhancing drug, at least for that level of administration.


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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:41 am

    chemicalrubber wrote:
    "designed purely to enhance his performance on the football pitch by improving his growth to unnatural levels"

    Growth hormone is not a performance-enhancing drug.

    So why did Barcelona pay for the treatment? Philanthropy?
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:41 am

    HGH is illegal in football so Res is correct, Messi just took it before he went pro though right?

    He's no better than Ronaldinho, Henry, Ronaldo or Zidane at their best anyway.
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    Post by chemicalrubber Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:42 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    chemicalrubber wrote:

    Growth hormone is not a performance-enhancing drug.

    So why did Barcelona pay for the treatment? Philanthropy?

    Because his own family probably couldn't pay for it.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:43 am

    chemicalrubber wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    So why did Barcelona pay for the treatment? Philanthropy?

    Because his own family probably couldn't pay for it.

    His own family couldn't afford a Ferrari, did Barcelona give them a few Ferraris?
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    Post by chemicalrubber Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:45 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    chemicalrubber wrote:

    Because his own family probably couldn't pay for it.

    His own family couldn't afford a Ferrari, did Barcelona give them a few Ferraris?

    No, Barcelona are too cheap to afford a Ferrari.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:45 am

    chemicalrubber wrote:
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    His own family couldn't afford a Ferrari, did Barcelona give them a few Ferraris?

    No, Barcelona are too cheap to afford a Ferrari.

    A series of treatments to enhance growth costs more than a Ferrarri.
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    Post by chemicalrubber Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:55 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    chemicalrubber wrote:

    No, Barcelona are too cheap to afford a Ferrari.

    A series of treatments to enhance growth costs more than a Ferrarri.

    In any case, Barcelona were willing to spend much more money on a kid to maximise his potential and raw ability. Still, this does not prove how (if even) Barcelona deliberately wanted to engineer a beast footballer (which you seem to be implying) and also why such a treatment should be illegal. I'm sure many children are administered drugs which would be illegal in sport for various ailments when they were very young.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:01 am

    chemicalrubber wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    A series of treatments to enhance growth costs more than a Ferrarri.

    In any case, Barcelona were willing to spend much more money on a kid to maximise his potential and raw ability. Still, this does not prove how (if even) Barcelona deliberately wanted to engineer a beast footballer (which you seem to be implying) and also why such a treatment should be illegal. I'm sure many children are administered drugs which would be illegal in sport for various ailments when they were very young.

    I believe that it is wrong for a player to have his performances enhanced by drugs. And it seems very obvious that they successfully engineered a beast footballer.
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:04 am

    Stick to WWE.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:05 am

    Maybe Messi should stick to sports where everyone has used performance enhancing drugs.
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:25 am

    Yes he should because otherwise I wouldn't get to watch him which would be very sad.
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:29 am

    Yes.
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    Post by The Bat-Man Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:45 am

    They paid for it because they saw his talent but his size didn't help him, it's not a performance enhancing drug it's a very specific treatment to deal with dwarfism.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:26 am

    They shoulda made him Peter Crouch height. Laughing
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:29 am

    Do we have any proof of these drugs being taken?
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    Post by Jamie Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:33 am

    Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Do we have any proof of these drugs being taken?

    facepalm
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    Post by ricky//habana Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:48 am

    Not still sore, are we?
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:49 am

    ricky//habana wrote:Not still sore, are we?

    Yes, he is Laughing
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    Post by Cadbury Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:51 am

    Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Do we have any proof of these drugs being taken?

    Laughing.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:57 am

    Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Do we have any proof of these drugs being taken?

    You can't prove he didn't take them.
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    Post by Jamie Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:58 am

    Personally I think he should be banned for not being 6 foot.
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:00 am

    Jamie wrote:Personally I think he should be banned for not being 6 foot.

    Tony Pulis likes this.
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:10 am

    Is there even any proof that Messi exists?
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:11 am

    Jamie wrote:Personally I think he should be banned for being shit.

    I agree not worthy
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    Post by Barton Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:13 am

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    Post by Jamie Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:15 am

    I thought everyone knew Messi had growth treatment when he was younger. scratch
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    Post by Mario Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:19 am

    It's different, obviously Barca would not have bothered to help him with all of that if they didn't see any talent in him.

    So yeah that would be a lame excuse to get Messi banned.

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