I say, create two independent states and let things pan out. It's sucks to be Israel these days. You have Egyptians protesting the border guards' deaths and storming the embassy, Turkey using their navy as a threat and becoming a player in the ME, Palestinians gaining statehood, and protests within the border of Israel.
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Palestine UN Bid
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Is Palestine right in their quest?
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Total Votes: 14
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Palestine UN Bid
So Palestine is hoping to claim statehood through the UN next week. The US has threatened to veto any resolution if it goes through the Security Council. Therefore, Palestine will go through the General assembly and gain the same status as the Vatican City. It's almost guaranteed as many nations have expressed their support for such a resolution. The US claims that the only way towards peace and a two state solution is through negotiations. Negotiations my ass! The same negotiations that have been going on for years and nothing is coming out of them. Palestinians would be fools to negotiate in Israel's terms.
I say, create two independent states and let things pan out. It's sucks to be Israel these days. You have Egyptians protesting the border guards' deaths and storming the embassy, Turkey using their navy as a threat and becoming a player in the ME, Palestinians gaining statehood, and protests within the border of Israel.
I say, create two independent states and let things pan out. It's sucks to be Israel these days. You have Egyptians protesting the border guards' deaths and storming the embassy, Turkey using their navy as a threat and becoming a player in the ME, Palestinians gaining statehood, and protests within the border of Israel.
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
Bomb them all.
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
FUCK. THEM.
We do not need a new state filled with Muslim Terrorists who celebrate 9/11 and kill Israeli citizens. We cannot give these fuckers legitimacy because they unilaterally demand it, it will just encourage global terrorism. If they want to take Israel's territory for their state, it should be on Israel's terms.
We do not need a new state filled with Muslim Terrorists who celebrate 9/11 and kill Israeli citizens. We cannot give these fuckers legitimacy because they unilaterally demand it, it will just encourage global terrorism. If they want to take Israel's territory for their state, it should be on Israel's terms.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:FUCK. THEM.
We do not need a new state filled with Muslim Terrorists who celebrate 9/11 and kill Israeli citizens. We cannot give these fuckers legitimacy because they unilaterally demand it, it will just encourage global terrorism. If they want to take Israel's territory for their state, it should be on Israel's terms.
Reported for so many reasons.
Theo Filippo-
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Lots of rules broken thereahlycotc wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:FUCK. THEM.
We do not need a new state filled with Muslim Terrorists who celebrate 9/11 and kill Israeli citizens. We cannot give these fuckers legitimacy because they unilaterally demand it, it will just encourage global terrorism. If they want to take Israel's territory for their state, it should be on Israel's terms.
Reported for so many reasons.
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Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Lots of rules broken thereahlycotc wrote:
Reported for so many reasons.
- Racism is not tolerated and will most likely result in an automatic ban.
- Post comments or create threads purely to wind a select person/group of people up intentionally (trolling)
ResurrectionRooney-
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ahlycotc wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:FUCK. THEM.
We do not need a new state filled with Muslim Terrorists who celebrate 9/11 and kill Israeli citizens. We cannot give these fuckers legitimacy because they unilaterally demand it, it will just encourage global terrorism. If they want to take Israel's territory for their state, it should be on Israel's terms.
Reported for so many reasons.
Theo Filippo-
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
Neither of those rules have been broken.ahlycotc wrote:Filippo Inzaghi wrote: Lots of rules broken there
- Racism is not tolerated and will most likely result in an automatic ban.
- Post comments or create threads purely to wind a select person/group of people up intentionally (trolling)
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ahlycotc wrote:Filippo Inzaghi wrote: Lots of rules broken there
- Racism is not tolerated and will most likely result in an automatic ban.
- Post comments or create threads purely to wind a select person/group of people up intentionally (trolling)
How dare you accuse me of being racist? The Palestinians elected a terrorist group to lead their country.
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Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Neither of those rules have been broken.ahlycotc wrote:
- Racism is not tolerated and will most likely result in an automatic ban.
- Post comments or create threads purely to wind a select person/group of people up intentionally (trolling)
Are you blind?
ResurrectionRooney wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
- Racism is not tolerated and will most likely result in an automatic ban.
- Post comments or create threads purely to wind a select person/group of people up intentionally (trolling)
How dare you accuse me of being racist? The Palestinians elected a terrorist group to lead their country.
Right, so all Palestinians are terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. I guess all Americans are retarded for having George Bush become President.
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
No, are you pedantic?ahlycotc wrote:Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Neither of those rules have been broken.
Are you blind?
I'l answer that..
Yes you are.
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ahlycotc wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:
How dare you accuse me of being racist? The Palestinians elected a terrorist group to lead their country.
Right, so all Palestinians are terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. I guess all Americans are retarded for having George Bush become President.
The majority are, just like the majority of American voters sympathised with Al Gore's views in 2000, George Dubya's views in 2004, and Barack Obama's in 2008.
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
Filippo Inzaghi wrote:No, are you pedantic?ahlycotc wrote:
Are you blind?
I'l answer that..
Yes you are.
Do you even know what pedantic means?
Theo Filippo-
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
picky/over-reactive to little things to my knowledge.ahlycotc wrote:Filippo Inzaghi wrote:No, are you pedantic?
I'l answer that..
Yes you are.
Do you even know what pedantic means?
Sean-
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Jesus Ahly, RR is just as entitled to his opinion as you.
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Filippo Inzaghi wrote:picky/over-reactive to little things to my knowledge.ahlycotc wrote:
Do you even know what pedantic means?
Right, so how does reporting someone for being racist and trolling mean I'm being picky?
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
Sean wrote:Jesus Ahly, RR is just as entitled to his opinion as you.
Of course. His post however, provides no constructive points to the discussion. He is basically calling Palestinians terrorists and that they have no right to have their own country because of that.
Theo Filippo-
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
Because he isn't being racist or trolling so you are trying to find any minuscule little detail in RR's post to try and get him banned.ahlycotc wrote:Filippo Inzaghi wrote:picky/over-reactive to little things to my knowledge.
Right, so how does reporting someone for being racist and trolling mean I'm being picky?
Maybe dishonest/liar/untrustworthy would of been more appropriate.
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Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Because he isn't being racist or trolling so you are trying to find any minuscule little detail in RR's post to try and get him banned.ahlycotc wrote:
Right, so how does reporting someone for being racist and trolling mean I'm being picky?
Maybe dishonest/liar/untrustworthy would of been more appropriate.
His original post suggested that all Palestinians are terrorsits. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.
Theo Filippo-
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Re: Palestine UN Bid
That is not racist.ahlycotc wrote:Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Because he isn't being racist or trolling so you are trying to find any minuscule little detail in RR's post to try and get him banned.
Maybe dishonest/liar/untrustworthy would of been more appropriate.
His original post suggested that all Palestinians are terrorsits. If that isn't racist, I don't know what is.
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I don't think all Palestinians support terrorism, just the majority. Otherwise a terrorist group wouldn't have been elected. I don't know why you insist on trying to crush opposition to your point of view, Ahly.
It is quite hypocritical of you, a man who uses racial slurs to refer to the Japanese, to claim that I am being racist. I just hate terrorists.
It is quite hypocritical of you, a man who uses racial slurs to refer to the Japanese, to claim that I am being racist. I just hate terrorists.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:I don't think all Palestinians support terrorism, just the majority. Otherwise a terrorist group wouldn't have been elected. I don't know why you insist on trying to crush opposition to your point of view, Ahly.
It is quite hypocritical of you, a man who uses racial slurs to refer to the Japanese, to claim that I am being racist. I just hate terrorists.
Wow you are unbelievable. I'm just going to ignore you from now on. Continue talking your shit.
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That is going to be a bloody terrible decision!!!
It would just be a complete disaster.
I highly recommend anyone read the Malthusian Catastrophe before even thinking an independent Palestine today is a good idea!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_disaster
The only problem is that the world will spend millions upon millions of dollars supporting this crap state. They'll be providing them with medical supplies and food, whilst the uneducated population will just keep on electing improper governments, be increasingly more violent, more and more terrorism will come out of the state (not to mention it would become a terrorism hub, I wouldn't be surprised if a sideffect would be Lebanon has another pseudo-civil war), the people will become poorer and hungrier whilst the population levels keep growing at an unbelievable pace which just further and further escalates this issue and I could go on and on and on but I believe most of you get the gist of it.
Independent Palestine would just end in a bigger catastrophe with much much much more millions of people involved and even more American and European dollars involved than it already is heading, and once the West stops giving a shit about the area, it will be Israel's problem. (I suggest an even higher wall)
Sometimes doing nothing is really the best solution.
It would just be a complete disaster.
I highly recommend anyone read the Malthusian Catastrophe before even thinking an independent Palestine today is a good idea!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_disaster
The only problem is that the world will spend millions upon millions of dollars supporting this crap state. They'll be providing them with medical supplies and food, whilst the uneducated population will just keep on electing improper governments, be increasingly more violent, more and more terrorism will come out of the state (not to mention it would become a terrorism hub, I wouldn't be surprised if a sideffect would be Lebanon has another pseudo-civil war), the people will become poorer and hungrier whilst the population levels keep growing at an unbelievable pace which just further and further escalates this issue and I could go on and on and on but I believe most of you get the gist of it.
Independent Palestine would just end in a bigger catastrophe with much much much more millions of people involved and even more American and European dollars involved than it already is heading, and once the West stops giving a shit about the area, it will be Israel's problem. (I suggest an even higher wall)
Sometimes doing nothing is really the best solution.
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polska. wrote:That is going to be a bloody terrible decision!!!
It would just be a complete disaster.
I highly recommend anyone read the Malthusian Catastrophe before even thinking an independent Palestine today is a good idea!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_disaster
The only problem is that the world will spend millions upon millions of dollars supporting this crap state. They'll be providing them with medical supplies and food, whilst the uneducated population will just keep on electing improper governments, be increasingly more violent, more and more terrorism will come out of the state (not to mention it would become a terrorism hub, I wouldn't be surprised if a sideffect would be Lebanon has another pseudo-civil war), the people will become poorer and hungrier whilst the population levels keep growing at an unbelievable pace which just further and further escalates this issue and I could go on and on and on but I believe most of you get the gist of it.
Independent Palestine would just end in a bigger catastrophe with much much much more millions of people involved and even more American and European dollars involved than it already is heading, and once the West stops giving a shit about the area, it will be Israel's problem. (I suggest an even higher wall)
Sometimes doing nothing is really the best solution.
Yes, letting millions of people live in horrific conditions is definitely the best solution. Let's not even attempt to help them because Polska thinks it may have negative consequences... According to your flawless logic, all poverty-stricken countries (e.g. majority of sub-Saharan Africa) should not receive any form of aid as the ignorant masses will remain electing illegitimate leaders as opposed to improving their living conditions. Perhaps Poland should have been left in ruins after the Second World War and the collapse of the Soviet Union...
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BladeGunner14 wrote:polska. wrote:That is going to be a bloody terrible decision!!!
It would just be a complete disaster.
I highly recommend anyone read the Malthusian Catastrophe before even thinking an independent Palestine today is a good idea!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_disaster
The only problem is that the world will spend millions upon millions of dollars supporting this crap state. They'll be providing them with medical supplies and food, whilst the uneducated population will just keep on electing improper governments, be increasingly more violent, more and more terrorism will come out of the state (not to mention it would become a terrorism hub, I wouldn't be surprised if a sideffect would be Lebanon has another pseudo-civil war), the people will become poorer and hungrier whilst the population levels keep growing at an unbelievable pace which just further and further escalates this issue and I could go on and on and on but I believe most of you get the gist of it.
Independent Palestine would just end in a bigger catastrophe with much much much more millions of people involved and even more American and European dollars involved than it already is heading, and once the West stops giving a shit about the area, it will be Israel's problem. (I suggest an even higher wall)
Sometimes doing nothing is really the best solution.
Yes, letting millions of people live in horrific conditions is definitely the best solution. Let's not even attempt to help them because Polska thinks it may have negative consequences... According to your flawless logic, all poverty-stricken countries (e.g. majority of sub-Saharan Africa) should not receive any form of aid as the ignorant masses will remain electing illegitimate leaders as opposed to improving their living conditions. Perhaps Poland should have been left in ruins after the Second World War and the collapse of the Soviet Union...
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BladeGunner14 wrote:polska. wrote:That is going to be a bloody terrible decision!!!
It would just be a complete disaster.
I highly recommend anyone read the Malthusian Catastrophe before even thinking an independent Palestine today is a good idea!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_disaster
The only problem is that the world will spend millions upon millions of dollars supporting this crap state. They'll be providing them with medical supplies and food, whilst the uneducated population will just keep on electing improper governments, be increasingly more violent, more and more terrorism will come out of the state (not to mention it would become a terrorism hub, I wouldn't be surprised if a sideffect would be Lebanon has another pseudo-civil war), the people will become poorer and hungrier whilst the population levels keep growing at an unbelievable pace which just further and further escalates this issue and I could go on and on and on but I believe most of you get the gist of it.
Independent Palestine would just end in a bigger catastrophe with much much much more millions of people involved and even more American and European dollars involved than it already is heading, and once the West stops giving a shit about the area, it will be Israel's problem. (I suggest an even higher wall)
Sometimes doing nothing is really the best solution.
Yes, letting millions of people live in horrific conditions is definitely the best solution. Let's not even attempt to help them because Polska thinks it may have negative consequences... According to your flawless logic, all poverty-stricken countries (e.g. majority of sub-Saharan Africa) should not receive any form of aid as the ignorant masses will remain electing illegitimate leaders as opposed to improving their living conditions. Perhaps Poland should have been left in ruins after the Second World War and the collapse of the Soviet Union...
The amount of human suffering that these people surviving perpetuates is horrific.
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You really don't understand what I said than do you?BladeGunner14 wrote:polska. wrote:That is going to be a bloody terrible decision!!!
It would just be a complete disaster.
I highly recommend anyone read the Malthusian Catastrophe before even thinking an independent Palestine today is a good idea!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_disaster
The only problem is that the world will spend millions upon millions of dollars supporting this crap state. They'll be providing them with medical supplies and food, whilst the uneducated population will just keep on electing improper governments, be increasingly more violent, more and more terrorism will come out of the state (not to mention it would become a terrorism hub, I wouldn't be surprised if a sideffect would be Lebanon has another pseudo-civil war), the people will become poorer and hungrier whilst the population levels keep growing at an unbelievable pace which just further and further escalates this issue and I could go on and on and on but I believe most of you get the gist of it.
Independent Palestine would just end in a bigger catastrophe with much much much more millions of people involved and even more American and European dollars involved than it already is heading, and once the West stops giving a shit about the area, it will be Israel's problem. (I suggest an even higher wall)
Sometimes doing nothing is really the best solution.
Yes, letting millions of people live in horrific conditions is definitely the best solution. Let's not even attempt to help them because Polska thinks it may have negative consequences... According to your flawless logic, all poverty-stricken countries (e.g. majority of sub-Saharan Africa) should not receive any form of aid as the ignorant masses will remain electing illegitimate leaders as opposed to improving their living conditions. Perhaps Poland should have been left in ruins after the Second World War and the collapse of the Soviet Union...
THESE PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE GOING TO GET WORSE, BY INTERVENING WE ARE MAKING IT EVEN WORSE, THEIR SOCIETY WILL COLLAPSE EVENTUALLY WITH OUR INTERVENTION OR NOT, ALL WE ARE DOING IS POSTPONING IT AND MAKING THE PROBLEM BIGGER AS THEIR POPULATION NUMBERS GROW EVEN MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
Get it?
I believe we are picking the lesser of two evils by leaving them be. Better 20m people are plunged into a decade of war and genocide now than 35m people a decade later. Plus the environment and ecology of their lands will recover quicker.
Poland left in ruins? Oh fuck off, that isn't even a good comparison. If the Communists didn't rebuild us, and the West abandoned us ( yah right)then us Poles would have rebuilt ourselves. We are a European nation after all with a history of European culture, traditions and values. Maybe we wouldn't have such ugly buildings today if we picked ourselves up instead.
Collapse of the Soviet Union? Like Poland could give a shit what is happening in the east. If anything I am happy there are now buffer states between us and Russia.
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Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Neither of those rules have been broken.ahlycotc wrote:
- Racism is not tolerated and will most likely result in an automatic ban.
- Post comments or create threads purely to wind a select person/group of people up intentionally (trolling)
omg
Inzaghi, you have to tell me what toothpaste you use....
Your tongue is always in rr's ass, I wonder how you get the taste of shit out of your mouth.
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@ Polska Collapse? My ass We will last, Even if we are misplaced around the world we will last and we will fight for what is ours.
"The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish."
The un were formed to make sure what happened to your people would never happen again. When i was younger i looked up to the the un, They took a stand against all the evil in the world but as i grew older i realised that they were just like everyone else, They were fools who did nothing but waste time. They wee fools because they let the Israel government do the same things the nazi's did.
I though Polska was one of the few members to understand this, I though maybe more than Ahly because Polska had his own people go through the hate of humans. I am sadly wrong, Poslka is just like the un, Happy with brushing everything under the rug as long as it doesn't effect him.
I once heard a saying from a bunch of uneducated idiots who at the time i had the misfortune of calling them my friends. They told me that "The Europeans didn't want to deal with the dirty jews, So they sent them to the middle east so hopefully they could forget they ever existed" At the time i didn't understand because Jewish people still play big role in the western world but now i think about it, It makes sense.
"The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish."
The un were formed to make sure what happened to your people would never happen again. When i was younger i looked up to the the un, They took a stand against all the evil in the world but as i grew older i realised that they were just like everyone else, They were fools who did nothing but waste time. They wee fools because they let the Israel government do the same things the nazi's did.
I though Polska was one of the few members to understand this, I though maybe more than Ahly because Polska had his own people go through the hate of humans. I am sadly wrong, Poslka is just like the un, Happy with brushing everything under the rug as long as it doesn't effect him.
I once heard a saying from a bunch of uneducated idiots who at the time i had the misfortune of calling them my friends. They told me that "The Europeans didn't want to deal with the dirty jews, So they sent them to the middle east so hopefully they could forget they ever existed" At the time i didn't understand because Jewish people still play big role in the western world but now i think about it, It makes sense.