The Gambler's Grill

Bogdan wrote:What about that guy that lost $40000 when he bet on a team 4-0 up and they drew.

Think that was in the ACON a couple of years back

Jamie wrote:

Chris wrote:USA let me down, but it was a punt from kickoff and only a low stake.

I just put £30 on Samara Kryliya Youth to beat Spartak Moscow Youth, they're at home and 2-0 up in the second half, shit odds 1/9 but its money straight in my pocket.

If this is just for a bit of fun then fair enough but if you seriously think this is a quick easy money scheme then just quit.

You basically think you can predict the chances of these teams that are 1-0/2-0 up winning better than professionals who have studied the odds, researched the chances of the teams losing and many variables.

Plenty of people start thinking this after a good run then it comes crashing down.

I'm with you there.

You have to always keep in the back of your head that the house always wins.

at the end of the day.. the bookie always wins.

Not always, people can make a career of out gambling but it's about discipline and studying the odds not just betting on hunches.

Sheffield United
Burton
Crawley
Torquay
Aldershot
Gateshead

£3 on. Won £73.16.

Sorted.

Carlise vs Mk Dons
Notts County vs Bournemouth
AFC Wimbledon vs Port Vale
Crawley vs Bristol Rovers

All scored. £1 returns £9.44.

Jamie wrote:

Chris wrote:USA let me down, but it was a punt from kickoff and only a low stake.

I just put £30 on Samara Kryliya Youth to beat Spartak Moscow Youth, they're at home and 2-0 up in the second half, shit odds 1/9 but its money straight in my pocket.

If this is just for a bit of fun then fair enough but if you seriously think this is a quick easy money scheme then just quit.

You basically think you can predict the chances of these teams that are 1-0/2-0 up winning better than professionals who have studied the odds, researched the chances of the teams losing and many variables.

Plenty of people start thinking this after a good run then it comes crashing down.

What do you mean predict the chances of these teams better than professionals? Im going WITH the professionals and taking the shit odds and winning almost every bet. The only bets im losing are the "punts" from kickoff like that USA one which i don't put high stakes on. Im going to work in an hour and i will probably make as much money while im there doing this as i will get from the shift.

What site do you use Chris? They got an sign up specials?

Zzonked wrote:What site do you use Chris? They got an sign up specials?

I'll be watching this all night whilst talking to you lot at work.

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/live

Chris wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Chris wrote:USA let me down, but it was a punt from kickoff and only a low stake.

I just put £30 on Samara Kryliya Youth to beat Spartak Moscow Youth, they're at home and 2-0 up in the second half, shit odds 1/9 but its money straight in my pocket.

If this is just for a bit of fun then fair enough but if you seriously think this is a quick easy money scheme then just quit.

You basically think you can predict the chances of these teams that are 1-0/2-0 up winning better than professionals who have studied the odds, researched the chances of the teams losing and many variables.

Plenty of people start thinking this after a good run then it comes crashing down.

What do you mean predict the chances of these teams better than professionals? Im going WITH the professionals and taking the shit odds and winning almost every bet. The only bets im losing are the "punts" from kickoff like that USA one which i don't put high stakes on. Im going to work in an hour and i will probably make as much money while im there doing this as i will get from the shift.

I mean the sites you are betting with have professional odds compilers setting the odds. You aren't betting on a 100% book, each market a betting site offers to punters has an overround that ensures they win long term on every single market.

Say you bet £100 on 10 straight bets at odds of evens. Assuming these professional odds compilers are predicting correctly then the likelihood is you'll lose part of your stake due to the way the betting sites intentionally give untrue odds.

Basically you're backing your random hunches to come out on top against what professional odds compilers think. You'll maybe win short term but I guarentee you don't long term.

Jamie i see what you're saying, this is what im doing. I want to accumulate to £500 on the site, at the moment im at just over £200. This is from starting with £5 from my bank account 3 weeks ago, i even showed sam (gk01) and kyro account history screenshots where i keep winning these small bets and accumulating. So when i get to £500 (if i do) i will be able to make these crap odds bets which so far have been working very well. I should be able to pull a decent profit out per week (just say over £100) while maintaining the £500 to bet with. Also im not bothered if i did lose as i only stuck £5 on there in the first place.

To me sticking £50 down to win £55 back is a good bet seeing it always seems to win, i can do 20+ bets like this a night. Just gotta be patient.

I like your style Chris. I'm gonna stick a fiver in and see how far I can get.

Fair enough. I've seen people win with these kind of systems before but seen people lose too. It's definitely possible but you've just got to be lucky, a few comebacks from teams you're betting against and your winnings are drained.

Just as long as you know it's not foolproof then it's cool.

Ever heard of matched betting? I do that, it's only profitable for a while though.

Betting addicts, groce.

Jamie wrote:Fair enough. I've seen people win with these kind of systems before but seen people lose too. It's definitely possible but you've just got to be lucky, a few comebacks from teams you're betting against and your winnings are drained.

Just as long as you know it's not foolproof then it's cool.

Ever heard of matched betting? I do that, it's only profitable for a while though.

Go on whats that, something to do with betting V other people i think?

How old do I have to be to bet on Football, like on Bet365.com?

I have never done it before.

Splashy wrote:How old do I have to be to bet on Football, like on Bet365.com?

I have never done it before.

18.

Chris wrote:

Splashy wrote:How old do I have to be to bet on Football, like on Bet365.com?

I have never done it before.

18.

Fuck.

Only 9 more months to go.

Chris wrote:

Jamie wrote:Fair enough. I've seen people win with these kind of systems before but seen people lose too. It's definitely possible but you've just got to be lucky, a few comebacks from teams you're betting against and your winnings are drained.

Just as long as you know it's not foolproof then it's cool.

Ever heard of matched betting? I do that, it's only profitable for a while though.

Go on whats that, something to do with betting V other people i think?

Nah it's making money out of free bets.

Like if a site says bet £50 get a free bet then you bet £50 on anything and bet against it happening (on betfair) so you get a £50 free bet for no risk.

Then either bet the £50 free bet on whatever you want or do the same thing again to get a guarenteed profit from it. It's pretty tedious but easy money, although sites are lowering their sign up offers now because they know about it.

I've gone with betting a MASSIVE amount on something very likely to win. Then I just use the winnings and see what happens.

My thread wasn't good enough then

Jamie wrote:

Chris wrote:

Jamie wrote:Fair enough. I've seen people win with these kind of systems before but seen people lose too. It's definitely possible but you've just got to be lucky, a few comebacks from teams you're betting against and your winnings are drained.

Just as long as you know it's not foolproof then it's cool.

Ever heard of matched betting? I do that, it's only profitable for a while though.

Go on whats that, something to do with betting V other people i think?

Nah it's making money out of free bets.

Like if a site says bet £50 get a free bet then you bet £50 on anything and bet against it happening (on betfair) so you get a £50 free bet for no risk.

Then either bet the £50 free bet on whatever you want or do the same thing again to get a guarenteed profit from it. It's pretty tedious but easy money, although sites are lowering their sign up offers now because they know about it.

I see.

Im sure if i gave you £5 a week and said make £1 back a week you could do it easily. I just want to do that but the £5 will be £500 and hopefully pull £100 a week out making safe bets.

hmm, impressive to get that far with a fiver

Do you actually do some researching about the team if you don't know it, or just go by the odds?

Gegilworld93 wrote:hmm, impressive to get that far with a fiver

Do you actually do some researching about the team if you don't know it, or just go by the odds?

Not much research, sometimes i look at their league tables but thats it. To be fair when i started with that fiver i wasn't being so careful, i was lucky at first, look at this from when i started:



It only shows bets and results, not the overall account fund but i got to about £80 there and have played safe since.

Jamie wrote:

Chris wrote:

Jamie wrote:Fair enough. I've seen people win with these kind of systems before but seen people lose too. It's definitely possible but you've just got to be lucky, a few comebacks from teams you're betting against and your winnings are drained.

Just as long as you know it's not foolproof then it's cool.

Ever heard of matched betting? I do that, it's only profitable for a while though.

Go on whats that, something to do with betting V other people i think?

Nah it's making money out of free bets.

Like if a site says bet £50 get a free bet then you bet £50 on anything and bet against it happening (on betfair) so you get a £50 free bet for no risk.

Then either bet the £50 free bet on whatever you want or do the same thing again to get a guarenteed profit from it. It's pretty tedious but easy money, although sites are lowering their sign up offers now because they know about it.

How many betting websites is there ? That won't work very long will it ? Bet 365 are doing a free £200 bet would that work with matched betting?

Jamie wrote:Nah it's making money out of free bets.

Like if a site says bet £50 get a free bet then you bet £50 on anything and bet against it happening (on betfair) so you get a £50 free bet for no risk.

Then either bet the £50 free bet on whatever you want or do the same thing again to get a guarenteed profit from it. It's pretty tedious but easy money, although sites are lowering their sign up offers now because they know about it.

Obviously depends on the odds. If there are two outcomes, and the odds aren't balanced then winning with the worse odds is going to lose you money. You also have the fact that you can't usually withdraw free bet winnings until after a certain amount of money is won/ certain amount of bets placed....or some just take away the free bet money and only give you the winnings i.e. Bet £20 free bet on 1/20 and if it wins you only end up with £1.

grenade187 wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Chris wrote:

Jamie wrote:Fair enough. I've seen people win with these kind of systems before but seen people lose too. It's definitely possible but you've just got to be lucky, a few comebacks from teams you're betting against and your winnings are drained.

Just as long as you know it's not foolproof then it's cool.

Ever heard of matched betting? I do that, it's only profitable for a while though.

Go on whats that, something to do with betting V other people i think?

Nah it's making money out of free bets.

Like if a site says bet £50 get a free bet then you bet £50 on anything and bet against it happening (on betfair) so you get a £50 free bet for no risk.

Then either bet the £50 free bet on whatever you want or do the same thing again to get a guarenteed profit from it. It's pretty tedious but easy money, although sites are lowering their sign up offers now because they know about it.

How many betting websites is there ? That won't work very long will it ? Bet 365 are doing a free £200 bet would that work with matched betting?

Quite a number, I haven't updated my spreadsheet in months but at the last update I'm signed up to 24 sites.

Yeah bet365 works but they are quick to limit you - like they'll cap your max bet so you can't use the maximum free bet.

Lux wrote:

Jamie wrote:Nah it's making money out of free bets.

Like if a site says bet £50 get a free bet then you bet £50 on anything and bet against it happening (on betfair) so you get a £50 free bet for no risk.

Then either bet the £50 free bet on whatever you want or do the same thing again to get a guarenteed profit from it. It's pretty tedious but easy money, although sites are lowering their sign up offers now because they know about it.

Obviously depends on the odds. If there are two outcomes, and the odds aren't balanced then winning with the worse odds is going to lose you money. You also have the fact that you can't usually withdraw free bet winnings until after a certain amount of money is won/ certain amount of bets placed....or some just take away the free bet money and only give you the winnings i.e. Bet £20 free bet on 1/20 and if it wins you only end up with £1.

Doesn't depend on the odds at all. There are sites out there to find the closest match between the odds you're backing at and the odds you are laying at on betfair.

Some sites are better than others but from a £50 qualifying bet to earn the free bet, at the very worst you would lose like £3. So you lose £3 in return for a £50 free bet that you can earn a guaranteed £40+ from, good exchange.

You're right that some don't give you your stake back - in those situations you would bet on a high odds event(4/1+ odds) as you'll recieve the highest return.

From a stake non-returnable bet the returns are less but you can still expect to recieve £40+ from a £50 free bet.

There are sites dedicated to this by the way.

Jamie wrote:Quite a number, I haven't updated my spreadsheet in months but at the last update I'm signed up to 24 sites.

kyro7 wrote:

Jamie wrote:Quite a number, I haven't updated my spreadsheet in months but at the last update I'm signed up to 24 sites.

I don't get it

grenade187 wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

Jamie wrote:Quite a number, I haven't updated my spreadsheet in months but at the last update I'm signed up to 24 sites.

I don't get it

Oh well.