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Terry Is Overrated
BMxJoga-
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- Post n°91
Re: Terry Is Overrated
Given their heights, I think Carvahlo is better.
Grenade-
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- Post n°92
Re: Terry Is Overrated
Being taller doesn't = stronger aerially.
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- Post n°93
Re: Terry Is Overrated
That is just fucking sublime.ResurrectionRooney wrote:So now you want to start a shit slinging match with me? Bad idea, 1. if I entertained the idea, I'd bury you in a mountain of shit so huge you'd never escape to show your face on this forum again and 2. It would be an even more pathetic conversation. Luckily for you I'm trying to avoid getting into arguments with pieces of bacteria.
menalawyerguy-
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- Post n°94
Re: Terry Is Overrated
kyro7 wrote:That is just fucking sublime.ResurrectionRooney wrote:So now you want to start a shit slinging match with me? Bad idea, 1. if I entertained the idea, I'd bury you in a mountain of shit so huge you'd never escape to show your face on this forum again and 2. It would be an even more pathetic conversation. Luckily for you I'm trying to avoid getting into arguments with pieces of bacteria.
Sublime in its passive aggression. "I don't want to waste by time in a shit slinging match with you so I am just going to sling some shit at you (i.e. "bacteria" blast) and then skedaddle on out."
To be fair, at least he stuck to it. It's better than Polska's patented "I'm not gonna argue with you about [insert topic]" and then proceeding to argue about [insert topic] for the next 8 pages.
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- Post n°95
Re: Terry Is Overrated
Yes, it's sublime.menalawyerguy wrote:kyro7 wrote:That is just fucking sublime.ResurrectionRooney wrote:So now you want to start a shit slinging match with me? Bad idea, 1. if I entertained the idea, I'd bury you in a mountain of shit so huge you'd never escape to show your face on this forum again and 2. It would be an even more pathetic conversation. Luckily for you I'm trying to avoid getting into arguments with pieces of bacteria.
Sublime in its passive aggression. "I don't want to waste by time in a shit slinging match with you so I am just going to sling some shit at you (i.e. "bacteria" blast) and then skedaddle on out."
To be fair, at least he stuck to it. It's better than Polska's patented "I'm not gonna argue with you about [insert topic]" and then proceeding to argue about [insert topic] for the next 8 pages.
menalawyerguy-
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- Post n°96
Re: Terry Is Overrated
kyro7 wrote:Yes, it's sublime.menalawyerguy wrote:kyro7 wrote:That is just fucking sublime.ResurrectionRooney wrote:So now you want to start a shit slinging match with me? Bad idea, 1. if I entertained the idea, I'd bury you in a mountain of shit so huge you'd never escape to show your face on this forum again and 2. It would be an even more pathetic conversation. Luckily for you I'm trying to avoid getting into arguments with pieces of bacteria.
Sublime in its passive aggression. "I don't want to waste by time in a shit slinging match with you so I am just going to sling some shit at you (i.e. "bacteria" blast) and then skedaddle on out."
To be fair, at least he stuck to it. It's better than Polska's patented "I'm not gonna argue with you about [insert topic]" and then proceeding to argue about [insert topic] for the next 8 pages.
Your sig is sublime. Looks like Gunnar is shooting his load on Beckham. Johnny Wadd would have been proud.
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- Post n°97
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You like turning my sig into something sexual don't you?menalawyerguy wrote:Your sig is sublime. Looks like Gunnar is shooting his load on Beckham. Johnny Wadd would have been proud.
Childish Logic-
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- Post n°98
Re: Terry Is Overrated
kyro7 wrote:You like turning my sig into something sexual don't you?menalawyerguy wrote:Your sig is sublime. Looks like Gunnar is shooting his load on Beckham. Johnny Wadd would have been proud.
Meanlawyerguy is in the closet.
menalawyerguy-
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- Post n°99
Re: Terry Is Overrated
kyro7 wrote:You like turning my sig into something sexual don't you?menalawyerguy wrote:Your sig is sublime. Looks like Gunnar is shooting his load on Beckham. Johnny Wadd would have been proud.
My favorite pastime.
Theo Filippo-
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- Post n°100
Re: Terry Is Overrated
Demba Ba-
- Formerly known as : cheesy
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- Post n°104
Re: Terry Is Overrated
He's clearly an excellent defender, but he isn't the invincible one that many make him out to be. In my opinion, his best days were during the Mourinho reign. He was solid at the back. While that has continued, we have seen blunders and errors creeping into his game.
It's obvious that he has a lack of pace, so he has to be beside a top quality CB with a decent amount of pace to do well. An example of this not being the case was at the 2010 WC. Terry was beside Upson, who may not be a bad defender, but is clearly not on the same level as some of his previous partners such as Carvalho and Ferdinand. Terry had a poor game and was exposed at the back.
When he is placed beside a very good, competent CB, he is an excellent defender, but the flaw I have mentioned is a major one in his game. Many people don't realise that and can easily overrate him.
It's obvious that he has a lack of pace, so he has to be beside a top quality CB with a decent amount of pace to do well. An example of this not being the case was at the 2010 WC. Terry was beside Upson, who may not be a bad defender, but is clearly not on the same level as some of his previous partners such as Carvalho and Ferdinand. Terry had a poor game and was exposed at the back.
When he is placed beside a very good, competent CB, he is an excellent defender, but the flaw I have mentioned is a major one in his game. Many people don't realise that and can easily overrate him.
BigAndy9-
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- Post n°105
Re: Terry Is Overrated
cheesy wrote:He's clearly an excellent defender, but he isn't the invincible one that many make him out to be. In my opinion, his best days were during the Mourinho reign. He was solid at the back. While that has continued, we have seen blunders and errors creeping into his game.
It's obvious that he has a lack of pace, so he has to be beside a top quality CB with a decent amount of pace to do well. An example of this not being the case was at the 2010 WC. Terry was beside Upson, who may not be a bad defender, but is clearly not on the same level as some of his previous partners such as Carvalho and Ferdinand. Terry had a poor game and was exposed at the back.
When he is placed beside a very good, competent CB, he is an excellent defender, but the flaw I have mentioned is a major one in his game. Many people don't realise that and can easily overrate him.
What about when he was with Cavalho?
Lux-
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- Post n°106
Re: Terry Is Overrated
Touch of a rapist?
Slow?
Terry has the technical ability and speed to run up the field and join attacks. He isn't some sluggish defender who just heads and hoofs.
Slow?
Terry has the technical ability and speed to run up the field and join attacks. He isn't some sluggish defender who just heads and hoofs.
fluffy_kittens-
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- Post n°107
Re: Terry Is Overrated
Terry is phenomenal, he's slow and old now but some of the plays he made through the years were amazing. He always gives it his all on the pitch regardless of how much of a scumbag he is off the pitch. I remember when he dove and got kicked in the face by diaby and nearly died on the field. Absolute backbone of the team type player.
I SiR MartY I-
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- Post n°108
Re: Terry Is Overrated
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
Kuled-
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- Post n°109
Re: Terry Is Overrated
How is Rio overrated? He is easily one of the best defenders in the world.
Demba Ba-
- Formerly known as : cheesy
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- Post n°110
Re: Terry Is Overrated
I'd say Ferdinand is better than Terry. Both could be seen as quite even in many aspects, but Ferdinand has more pace and I feel he is a lot better when on the ball.I SiR MartY I wrote:
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
There was actually an entire thread asking if Ferdinand was underrated.
I SiR MartY I-
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- Post n°111
Re: Terry Is Overrated
cheesy wrote:I'd say Ferdinand is better than Terry. Both could be seen as quite even in many aspects, but Ferdinand has more pace and I feel he is a lot better when on the ball.I SiR MartY I wrote:
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
There was actually an entire thread asking if Ferdinand was underrated.
So you rate a defender by how quick he is? personally i rate a defender by his tackling ability his aerial ability and his positional ability. I think Terry is a better tackler and is so much better in the air than Rio, yeah Rio has more pace and can play some decent passes, but Terry for me is so much better as a defender.
Demba Ba-
- Formerly known as : cheesy
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- Post n°112
Re: Terry Is Overrated
I SiR MartY I wrote:cheesy wrote:I'd say Ferdinand is better than Terry. Both could be seen as quite even in many aspects, but Ferdinand has more pace and I feel he is a lot better when on the ball.I SiR MartY I wrote:
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
There was actually an entire thread asking if Ferdinand was underrated.
So you rate a defender by how quick he is? personally i rate a defender by his tackling ability his aerial ability and his positional ability. I think Terry is a better tackler and is so much better in the air than Rio, yeah Rio has more pace and can play some decent passes, but Terry for me is so much better as a defender.
No, I rate defenders on all of the important factors such as the ones you mentioned, but those other little extras have to be taken into account as well. I would definitely put Ferdinand as the better tackler of the two and it would be quite even for aerial ability.
As you said though, we're both probably slightly biased in a way.
I SiR MartY I-
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- Post n°113
Re: Terry Is Overrated
cheesy wrote:I SiR MartY I wrote:cheesy wrote:I'd say Ferdinand is better than Terry. Both could be seen as quite even in many aspects, but Ferdinand has more pace and I feel he is a lot better when on the ball.I SiR MartY I wrote:
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
There was actually an entire thread asking if Ferdinand was underrated.
So you rate a defender by how quick he is? personally i rate a defender by his tackling ability his aerial ability and his positional ability. I think Terry is a better tackler and is so much better in the air than Rio, yeah Rio has more pace and can play some decent passes, but Terry for me is so much better as a defender.
No, I rate defenders on all of the important factors such as the ones you mentioned, but those other little extras have to be taken into account as well. I would definitely put Ferdinand as the better tackler of the two and it would be quite even for aerial ability.
As you said though, we're both probably slightly biased in a way.
Pace is only needed if you in a sprint with a ST since Chelsea play their deep line they rarly have to deal with STs on the break.
But like you said my view is biased so when Chelsea dont win the title and i start supporting City ill make a fair choice lol
Demba Ba-
- Formerly known as : cheesy
Posts : 4142
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- Post n°114
Re: Terry Is Overrated
I SiR MartY I wrote:cheesy wrote:I SiR MartY I wrote:cheesy wrote:I'd say Ferdinand is better than Terry. Both could be seen as quite even in many aspects, but Ferdinand has more pace and I feel he is a lot better when on the ball.I SiR MartY I wrote:
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
There was actually an entire thread asking if Ferdinand was underrated.
So you rate a defender by how quick he is? personally i rate a defender by his tackling ability his aerial ability and his positional ability. I think Terry is a better tackler and is so much better in the air than Rio, yeah Rio has more pace and can play some decent passes, but Terry for me is so much better as a defender.
No, I rate defenders on all of the important factors such as the ones you mentioned, but those other little extras have to be taken into account as well. I would definitely put Ferdinand as the better tackler of the two and it would be quite even for aerial ability.
As you said though, we're both probably slightly biased in a way.
Pace is only needed if you in a sprint with a ST since Chelsea play their deep line they rarly have to deal with STs on the break.
But like you said my view is biased so when Chelsea dont win the title and i start supporting City ill make a fair choice lol
menalawyerguy-
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- Post n°115
Re: Terry Is Overrated
I SiR MartY I wrote:
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
Gotta agree about Rio. There's this one Scottish idiot who constantly praises him. Can't quite remember his name off hand. Alan Fergusberg or Alex Ferdisun...something like that. People afford the guy way to much respect though, always calling him "sir" and whatnot. He's obviously a dolt. Wants to be a manager or some shit like that hahaha. I don't expect him to last long.
easley91-
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- Post n°116
Re: Terry Is Overrated
King > Terry
SBSP-
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- Post n°117
Re: Terry Is Overrated
menalawyerguy wrote:I SiR MartY I wrote:
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
Gotta agree about Rio. There's this one Scottish idiot who constantly praises him. Can't quite remember his name off hand. Alan Fergusberg or Alex Ferdisun...something like that. People afford the guy way to much respect though, always calling him "sir" and whatnot. He's obviously a dolt. Wants to be a manager or some shit like that hahaha. I don't expect him to last long.
Laurencio-
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- Post n°118
Re: Terry Is Overrated
menalawyerguy wrote:I SiR MartY I wrote:
England's best CB Ferdinand is over-rated,like most English players
Terry has been one of the best CBs in the world for well over 6 or 7 years, but thats probably my Chelsea bias
Gotta agree about Rio. There's this one Scottish idiot who constantly praises him. Can't quite remember his name off hand. Alan Fergusberg or Alex Ferdisun...something like that. People afford the guy way to much respect though, always calling him "sir" and whatnot. He's obviously a dolt. Wants to be a manager or some shit like that hahaha. I don't expect him to last long.