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    Stoke V Chelsea Match Thread

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    Post by Clark Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:46 pm

    Team News

    Matthew Upson is not yet ready to make his Stoke debut but fellow new signing Jonathan Woodgate should feature.

    Rory Delap (hamstring) and Matthew Etherington (rib) are hopeful of being fit but Ricardo Fuller, Mamady Sidibe and Danny Higginbotham are absentees.

    New Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas says striker Fernando Torres has overcome mild concussion and should be okay to start.

    Daniel Sturridge is suspended and David Luiz misses out with injury.

    Last seasons result

    Stoke City 1 - Chelsea 1


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    Post by Kuled Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:03 pm

    Should be a good game with Stoke's fantastic home form. Will be tough for Chelsea, I can see this ending in a draw.
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    Post by Clark Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:09 pm

    Same here, I think Chelsea will end up winners by a goal, but they have got points of Chelsea at home, 2-1 win for the Blues.
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    Post by Clark Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:38 pm

    Bumping whilst active.
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    Post by ManchesterRed Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:41 pm

    I'm go for a 2-0 win for Chelsea as they usually start the season well.
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:42 pm

    Chelsea will smash it.
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    Post by GK01 Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:46 pm

    Woodgate to score 10.
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    Post by ManchesterRed Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:47 pm

    Woodgates actually fit shifty
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    Post by Clark Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:24 pm

    Good stuff.
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    Post by Demba Ba Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:26 pm

    This won't be an easy start for Chelsea. We all know what Stoke are like at home, so Chelsea can forget about running away with the game.

    I think Stoke could sneak a point here and get a 1-1 draw, in what will be a very physical match.
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    Post by luke. Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:47 pm

    I really hate pre-match threads Neutral
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:59 pm

    go Stoke Laughing

    Fuller absent Cry
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:59 pm

    luke. wrote:I really hate pre-match threads Neutral
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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:54 pm

    Wonder what the Chelsea team will be, Chelsea will win though.
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    Post by Golden_Golz Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:25 pm

    After just watching Football Factory, anything less than a brawl just doesn't seem right. Stoke V Chelsea Match Thread 79723
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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:26 pm

    2-1 Chelsea. It would do my Fantasy team some good.
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    Post by Walcott Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:29 pm

    2-1 Chelsea although I hope Stoke get absolutely demolished.
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    Post by Zzonked Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:30 pm

    Is this on TV?
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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:36 pm

    Zzonked wrote:Is this on TV?
    Yeah 1:30 on Sky then we're on after.
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    Post by luke. Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:10 pm

    It'll probably be;

    Bosingwa Ivanovic Terry Cole
    Mikel
    Ramires Lampard
    Anelka Drogba Malouda
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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:11 pm

    Don't like that team one bit but it'll still win.

    Drogba will smash their rectums off.
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    Post by Jordi Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:12 pm

    luke. wrote:It'll probably be;

    Bosingwa Ivanovic Terry Cole
    Mikel
    Ramires Lampard
    Anelka Drogba Malouda
    Stoke will win, cos you have no keeper.
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    Post by Demba Ba Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:13 pm

    I'm wondering how this Chelsea team will play today. Obviously AVB will want to employ an exciting style of football, but with a direct team and a game against Stoke away, he may need to forget about those principles for today.
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    Post by luke. Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:15 pm

    DEALING WITH DEFENSIVE TEAMS
    DS: How do you attack a team that plays with an ultra-low block?

    AVB: Let’s see. Juventus play with an ultra-low block, they don’t put any pressure on you high up the field. Nowadays most teams don’t. It can limit you because they control the space behind them with perfect offside timing.
    They limit your vertical passes as well because they are all grouped within 30 or 40 metres, completely closed in two lines of four plus the two forwards.

    So you start constructing “short”, begin the attacking process with your centre-backs of full-backs carrying the ball forward to the midfield area but then you want to pass the ball to the midfielders and you don’t know how to do it, because there is an ultra-limited space, everything is completely closed.

    DS: So what to do?

    AVB: You have to provoke them with the ball, which is something most teams can’t do. I cannot understand it. It’s an essential factor in the game.

    At this time of ultra-low defensive block teams, you will have to learn how to provoke them with the ball. It’s the ball they want, so you have to defy them using the ball as a carrot.

    Louis Van Gaal’s idea is one of continuous circulation, one side to the other, until the moment that, when you change direction, an space opens up inside and you go through it.

    So, he provokes the opponent with horizontal circulation of the ball, until the moment that the opponent will start to pressure out of despair. What I believe in is to challenge the rival by driving the ball into him.

    That’s something Pep Guardiola believes is decisive. And that’s something that Henk ten Cate also took to Avram Grant’s Chelsea. He took it with him form Frank Rijkaard’s Barcelona. We did it differently at Chelsea under Mourinho.

    Our attacking construction was different, with the ball going directly to the full-backs or midfielders. With Ten Cate, play was started with John Terry or Ricardo Carvalho, to invite the opponent’s pressure. Then you had one less opponent in the next step of construction.

    I believe this is how he'll play it.
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    Post by luke. Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:27 pm

    JohnBrewinESPN John Brewin
    From a good source: Torres starts for Chelsea, Drogba does not. Malouda and Kalou start, no Anelka. Mikel, Lampard, Ramires in midfield.

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    Post by Demba Ba Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:28 pm

    luke. wrote:JohnBrewinESPN John Brewin
    From a good source: Torres starts for Chelsea, Drogba does not. Malouda and Kalou start, no Anelka. Mikel, Lampard, Ramires in midfield.

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    I'd say that's a mistake. Drogba would have been perfect to play against Stoke.
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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:28 pm

    NANDOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, FUCKING YES.
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    Post by luke. Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:30 pm

    Drogba plays into Stoke's hands, Nando draws defenders out and creates space, which is what AVB is looking for.
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    Post by Demba Ba Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:31 pm

    Good point, but I would have imagined that Drogba's strength would have been perfect to combat against someone like Huth or Shawcross.
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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:32 pm

    Drogba didn't play into their hands when he scored a header v them last season aleeeeeeee.

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