Does Cesc Fabregas want to play for Barcelona?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Blackpool Rule wrote:RR im not sure if your stupid or deliberately trolling its obvious that he wants to go Barcelona anyone would but he happy at Arsenal. But being RR you have to create a stupid thread where you can massarge your ego and think your the most intelligent poster improving its quality while your here. When infact your doing quite the oppersite you regulary cause controversy im surprised you havent been banned but untill then everyone on the fourm will have to deal with this cancer thats ruining the fourm.



rant over time to make a sandwich

A cancer that is killing the forum . He wants to go to Barcelona but Arsenal are preventing him from doing that, that's the point dick head.

menalawyerguy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

polska. wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Who the fuck do you think you talking to? You are a disgrace.

I'm glad we've reached the understanding that Fabregas wants to play for Barcelona. Given that he can only play for one club at a time (unless FIFA rules have changed since I last looked) that must mean he wants to leave Arsenal to join Barcelona. If you are saying that he will play for Barca is they bid the price Arsenal demand, then it is even more obvious.

It is his will to play for Barcelona, therefore it is his will to leave Arsenal, Arsenal's refusal to terminate his contract prevents him from doing that, therefore he is being kept at Arsenal against his will. Are you actually form Poland because that's what your understanding of the English language suggests.

I don't even know if you are being serious anymore.

Just because he wants to play with Barcelona one day means fuck all with him wanting to leave Arsenal.

Be honest, if Fabregas had the choice, do you think he would play for Arsenal or Barcelona?

If I had the choice between Jessica Biel and Jessica Alba, I'd fuck Jessica Biel. But if I had to fuck Alba, I wouldn't say my cock is being used against my will.

That's not the scenario though. 3 years ago you agreed to have sex with Jessica Alba, and today, Jessica Biel tells you that she really wants to fuck you, but Jessica Alba puts a chastity belt on you, and will only let you fuck her. You'll still enjoy fucking her, but if Jessica Biel's saying 'Come on Mena, fuck me instead' and you want to, then it's against your will.

If I had a contract with Alba to fuck her and only her for the next 5 years and Biel came along in year 4 wanting to fuck me, then I wouldn't blame Alba for wanting a fair dick price before releasing me from my contract.

He wants to take his talents to Catalonia

Fine Shagger wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Clearly he does, who wouldn't. However I think it's more down to Barca than Arsenal. If they met the valuation he would be allowed to leave, Arsenal have always known when to sell a player.

That's exactly right. Arsenal isn't doing anything improper here. The fact that they got him for free is irrelevant. They've done nothing illegal and they have contractual rights in the player.

It's not illegal but the ethics are questionable, surely you'd agree?

What's unethical or immoral about wanting a good price for a player? This is business.

El_indian wrote:He wants to take his talents to Catalonia

When is the hour-long ESPN transfer special?

menalawyerguy wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Clearly he does, who wouldn't. However I think it's more down to Barca than Arsenal. If they met the valuation he would be allowed to leave, Arsenal have always known when to sell a player.

That's exactly right. Arsenal isn't doing anything improper here. The fact that they got him for free is irrelevant. They've done nothing illegal and they have contractual rights in the player.

It's not illegal but the ethics are questionable, surely you'd agree?

What's unethical or immoral about wanting a good price for a player? This is business.

Do you think it's fair that an English club can give a Spanish youngster such as Cesc a professional contract at a younger age than Cesc's own club can? It played a key part in bringing him to Arsenal and despite not being illegal you would have to question whether it is fair to exploit such an unfair advantage.

It's not Arsenal's fault that the loophole exists but it is their fault for using it.

I think we should do what United did with Pique and sell a world class player back to them for £5m and a sorry note.

It's airing soon on ESPN Deportes, I'm hearing it will be called 'La Decisión'

Fine Shagger wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Clearly he does, who wouldn't. However I think it's more down to Barca than Arsenal. If they met the valuation he would be allowed to leave, Arsenal have always known when to sell a player.

That's exactly right. Arsenal isn't doing anything improper here. The fact that they got him for free is irrelevant. They've done nothing illegal and they have contractual rights in the player.

It's not illegal but the ethics are questionable, surely you'd agree?

What's unethical or immoral about wanting a good price for a player? This is business.

Do you think it's fair that an English club can give a Spanish youngster such as Cesc a professional contract at a younger age than Cesc's own club can? It played a key part in bringing him to Arsenal and despite not being illegal you would have to question whether it is fair to exploit such an unfair advantage.

It's not Arsenal's fault that the loophole exists but it is their fault for using it.

Interesting point. It is a dodgy loophole. I'll give you that. But nobody forced Cesc to sign the contract. I don't know what his transfer rights are under the contract. If Arsenal is violating some sort of transfer obligation, then I agree that's unethical and it's a breach of contract. But Cesc and more importantly, Cesc's father, read the contract, understood it and signed it presumably with no Luka Brasi standing behind them with a gun. So now they have to honor it. It's as simple as that.

Personally I would take Alba.

blackskar wrote:I think we should do what United did with Pique and sell a world class player back to them for £5m and a sorry note.

You'd get people coming back in 3 years saying Wenger was an idiot for letting him go so cheaply because he didn't realise how good he was.

menalawyerguy wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

That's exactly right. Arsenal isn't doing anything improper here. The fact that they got him for free is irrelevant. They've done nothing illegal and they have contractual rights in the player.

It's not illegal but the ethics are questionable, surely you'd agree?

What's unethical or immoral about wanting a good price for a player? This is business.

Do you think it's fair that an English club can give a Spanish youngster such as Cesc a professional contract at a younger age than Cesc's own club can? It played a key part in bringing him to Arsenal and despite not being illegal you would have to question whether it is fair to exploit such an unfair advantage.

It's not Arsenal's fault that the loophole exists but it is their fault for using it.

Interesting point. It is a dodgy loophole. I'll give you that. But nobody forced Cesc to sign the contract. I don't know what his transfer rights are under the contract. If Arsenal is violating some sort of transfer obligation, then I agree that's unethical and it's a breach of contract. But Cesc and more importantly, Cesc's father, read the contract, understood it and now they have to honor it. It's as simple as that.

I'm not using it as an example of how Cesc is being forced to do something against his will - this point isn't really to do with the thread at all admittedly but I was just saying that I don't think Arsenal acted ethically when signing him. It doesn't work against the player who benefitted from the security of a professional contract, but I do find it unfair to Barcelona who lost out on a player they nurtured because a foreign club found themselves able to take this player using an (imo) unfair advantage. Something they have since repeated numerous times after scouting Barcelona's youth teams.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

blackskar wrote:I think we should do what United did with Pique and sell a world class player back to them for £5m and a sorry note.

You'd get people coming back in 3 years saying Wenger was an idiot for letting him go so cheaply because he didn't realise how good he was.

Yeah but we'd have the moral high ground as we'd righted a wrong.

Won't happen though, Arsenal would never behave ethically in the transfer market. It reminds me of the time you snatched Aaron Ramsey despite us having an agreement to sign him.

El_indian wrote:Personally I would take Alba, but hey that's just me. And if there was a dick price involved with my cock, it would be huge - both the fee and the cock

It depends. IF Biel saw me she'd probably say "eh, not bad. That's a nice fat 10 inch cock ya got there. But I've got a few 12 inch black cocks over here waiting to fuck me. So while I wouldn't mind giving that cock of yours a go, I'm not gonna pay too much for it."

So in that case, it would be better for my cock's career to stay with Alba anyway. I'm gonna be getting more pussy time that way.


It's the same with Cesc. Where is Barca gonna put him? Xavi and Iniesta boss the midfield like no other combo in the biz. It would be retarded to move Iniesta to the front line to make room for Cesc, especially if they are going to get Sanchez. Their system is perfectly set up with the players they have now. He wouldn't make as good of a holding midfielder as Busquets. The only reason they would want him is to add depth. They need depth, but they don't need it that badly. So if Cesc went there, he'd be on the pine most of the time.

there is not room for fabregas at barca..

barca need busquets in the midfield they're not going to sacrafice iniesta or xavi and fabregas is too good for the bench as well.

And im afraid xavi got at least 2,3 years left, so why are they rushing? ... fabregas should play regulary no matter what club he'll play for.

Blackpool Rule wrote:RR i'm not sure if your stupid or deliberately trolling its obvious that he wants to go Barcelona anyone would but he happy at Arsenal. But being RR you have to create a stupid thread where you can massage your ego and think your the most intelligent poster improving its quality while your here. When in fact your doing quite the oppersite you regulary cause controversy im surprised you haven't been banned but until then everyone on the fourm will have to deal with this cancer that's ruining the fourm.



rant over time to make a sandwich

Right on the money