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    Does Cesc Fabregas want to play for Barcelona?

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    Post by North_Sea_Tiger Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:37 am

    Nobody is arguing saying he doesnt want to leave.Everybody knows he wants to leave. Arsenal would be willing to sell if they get a good price. What people were saying is that if it doesnt happen this summer Fabregas would be happy to stay because he isnt desperate to leave. He wants to go back but isnt going to go through transfer requests because he is still happy at Arsenal
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    Post by North_Sea_Tiger Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:40 am

    polska. wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Seems obvious to me, but a lot of Arsenal fans are saying he doesn't want to leave.
    Oh shut the fuck up.

    Your were arguing that Fabregas is in Arsenal against his will. Does Cesc Fabregas want to play for Barcelona? - Page 2 58503

    Like I and others have said, Fabregas is under contract at Arsenal. He is owned by Arsenal, not Barcelona, therefore if Barcelona want Cesc, than they will have to pay the price Arsenal demand.

    Fabregas in Arsenal against his will? Really? He has said he wants to play for Barcelona, he however hasn't said a single damn thing about wanting to leave Arsenal. He loves Arsenal as well and I am sure will have no gripes about staying at the club should Barcelona not meet the fee.

    Only bitters such as yourselves think he wants to leave the club.

    This situation is actually much like how Real had to meet the Man United valuation of Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo loves United as well much like Fabregas, so he obviously had no quells with staying at United, but Real Madrid payed the price Manchester United valued him at and he left to another club he also loves.

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    Post by Danny Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:41 am

    North_Sea_Tiger wrote:

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    rofl

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    Post by North_Sea_Tiger Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:42 am

    Danny wrote:
    North_Sea_Tiger wrote:

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    Let's celebrate with a pint of me!

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    Post by Jamie Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:50 am

    North_Sea_Tiger wrote:Nobody is arguing saying he doesnt want to leave.Everybody knows he wants to leave. Arsenal would be willing to sell if they get a good price. What people were saying is that if it doesnt happen this summer Fabregas would be happy to stay because he isnt desperate to leave. He wants to go back but isnt going to go through transfer requests because he is still happy at Arsenal

    Actually you'll find Chris said otherwise.

    But then again Chris thinks:
    Busquets isn't physical enough to make it as a defending midfielder
    Barcelona would be as good if you replaced Messi with Ronaldo
    Collins and Richard Dunne are better than Agger
    Samba is good enough for Arsenal
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:52 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    North_Sea_Tiger wrote:Nobody is arguing saying he doesnt want to leave.Everybody knows he wants to leave. Arsenal would be willing to sell if they get a good price. What people were saying is that if it doesnt happen this summer Fabregas would be happy to stay because he isnt desperate to leave. He wants to go back but isnt going to go through transfer requests because he is still happy at Arsenal

    Actually you'll find Chris said otherwise.

    But then again Chris thinks:
    Busquets isn't physical enough to make it as a defending midfielder
    Barcelona would be as good if you replaced Messi with Ronaldo
    Collins and Richard Dunne are better than Agger
    Samba is good enough for Arsenal

    That's not a ridiculous statement, they'd be running at like 95% potential, it's not like Barca would be half as good if they replaced Messi with Ronaldo.
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    Post by Jamie Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:57 am

    Bogdan wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:
    North_Sea_Tiger wrote:Nobody is arguing saying he doesnt want to leave.Everybody knows he wants to leave. Arsenal would be willing to sell if they get a good price. What people were saying is that if it doesnt happen this summer Fabregas would be happy to stay because he isnt desperate to leave. He wants to go back but isnt going to go through transfer requests because he is still happy at Arsenal

    Actually you'll find Chris said otherwise.

    But then again Chris thinks:
    Busquets isn't physical enough to make it as a defending midfielder
    Barcelona would be as good if you replaced Messi with Ronaldo
    Collins and Richard Dunne are better than Agger
    Samba is good enough for Arsenal

    That's not a ridiculous statement, they'd be running at like 95% potential, it's not like Barca would be half as good if they replaced Messi with Ronaldo.

    Barcelona's style of play wouldn't work at all with Ronaldo. Laughing

    But that's for another thread.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:04 am

    polska. wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Seems obvious to me, but a lot of Arsenal fans are saying he doesn't want to leave.
    Oh shut the fuck up.

    Your were arguing that Fabregas is in Arsenal against his will. facepalm

    Like I and others have said, Fabregas is under contract at Arsenal. He is owned by Arsenal, not Barcelona, therefore if Barcelona want Cesc, than they will have to pay the price Arsenal demand.

    Fabregas in Arsenal against his will? Really? He has said he wants to play for Barcelona, he however hasn't said a single damn thing about wanting to leave Arsenal. He loves Arsenal as well and I am sure will have no gripes about staying at the club should Barcelona not meet the fee.

    Only bitters such as yourselves think he wants to leave the club.
    Who the fuck do you think you talking to? You are a disgrace.

    I'm glad we've reached the understanding that Fabregas wants to play for Barcelona. Given that he can only play for one club at a time (unless FIFA rules have changed since I last looked) that must mean he wants to leave Arsenal to join Barcelona. If you are saying that he will play for Barca is they bid the price Arsenal demand, then it is even more obvious.

    It is his will to play for Barcelona, therefore it is his will to leave Arsenal, Arsenal's refusal to terminate his contract prevents him from doing that, therefore he is being kept at Arsenal against his will. Are you actually form Poland because that's what your understanding of the English language suggests.
    This situation is actually much like how Real had to meet the Man United valuation of Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo loves United as well much like Fabregas, so he obviously had no quells with staying at United, but Real Madrid payed the price Manchester United valued him at and he left to another club he also loves.
    Yes is is like the Ronaldo situation, in that a player is being kept at a club against his will. The difference is that we didn't steal Ronaldo in the first place, we paid well above market value for him.
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    ayvee1 wrote:I'd say it's obvious he does, what's the point in this thread?

    You're going to last a long time as a moderator if you carry on like this.

    The point is to discuss whether Fabregas wants to leave Arsenal and play for Barcelona, because while it may seem obvious to you and I that he does, some Arsenal fans are arguing that he does not, here we can settle the issue.
    That's not what I meant. It was obvious the way the poll was going to turn out, Arsenal fans vote for one option, almost everyone else votes for the other. Cue the same argument going on in the Arsenal thread.
    I was assuming most Arsenal fans have brains, so the view that he doesn't want to leave would be wholly refuted.
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    Post by blackskar Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:41 am

    You can want to play for many clubs....
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    Post by Coatsy Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:45 am

    Abou Diaby wants to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid. He isn't fussy.
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    Post by The Zlatan Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:46 am

    Coatsy wrote:Abou Diaby wants to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid. He isn't fussy.

    Absolute disgrace how we are keeping him against his will.
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    Post by blackskar Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:46 am

    Coatsy wrote:Abou Diaby wants to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid. He isn't fussy.

    Laughing

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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:49 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    polska. wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Seems obvious to me, but a lot of Arsenal fans are saying he doesn't want to leave.
    Oh shut the fuck up.

    Your were arguing that Fabregas is in Arsenal against his will. facepalm

    Like I and others have said, Fabregas is under contract at Arsenal. He is owned by Arsenal, not Barcelona, therefore if Barcelona want Cesc, than they will have to pay the price Arsenal demand.

    Fabregas in Arsenal against his will? Really? He has said he wants to play for Barcelona, he however hasn't said a single damn thing about wanting to leave Arsenal. He loves Arsenal as well and I am sure will have no gripes about staying at the club should Barcelona not meet the fee.

    Only bitters such as yourselves think he wants to leave the club.
    Who the fuck do you think you talking to? You are a disgrace.

    I'm glad we've reached the understanding that Fabregas wants to play for Barcelona. Given that he can only play for one club at a time (unless FIFA rules have changed since I last looked) that must mean he wants to leave Arsenal to join Barcelona. If you are saying that he will play for Barca is they bid the price Arsenal demand, then it is even more obvious.

    It is his will to play for Barcelona, therefore it is his will to leave Arsenal, Arsenal's refusal to terminate his contract prevents him from doing that, therefore he is being kept at Arsenal against his will. Are you actually form Poland because that's what your understanding of the English language suggests.

    I don't even know if you are being serious anymore. facepalm

    Just because he wants to play with Barcelona one day means fuck all with him wanting to leave Arsenal.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:49 am

    Not comparable, Barcelona and Real Madrid don't want Diaby, if you offered him the opportunity to terminate his contract he would turn it down.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:50 am

    polska. wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    polska. wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Seems obvious to me, but a lot of Arsenal fans are saying he doesn't want to leave.
    Oh shut the fuck up.

    Your were arguing that Fabregas is in Arsenal against his will. facepalm

    Like I and others have said, Fabregas is under contract at Arsenal. He is owned by Arsenal, not Barcelona, therefore if Barcelona want Cesc, than they will have to pay the price Arsenal demand.

    Fabregas in Arsenal against his will? Really? He has said he wants to play for Barcelona, he however hasn't said a single damn thing about wanting to leave Arsenal. He loves Arsenal as well and I am sure will have no gripes about staying at the club should Barcelona not meet the fee.

    Only bitters such as yourselves think he wants to leave the club.
    Who the fuck do you think you talking to? You are a disgrace.

    I'm glad we've reached the understanding that Fabregas wants to play for Barcelona. Given that he can only play for one club at a time (unless FIFA rules have changed since I last looked) that must mean he wants to leave Arsenal to join Barcelona. If you are saying that he will play for Barca is they bid the price Arsenal demand, then it is even more obvious.

    It is his will to play for Barcelona, therefore it is his will to leave Arsenal, Arsenal's refusal to terminate his contract prevents him from doing that, therefore he is being kept at Arsenal against his will. Are you actually form Poland because that's what your understanding of the English language suggests.

    I don't even know if you are being serious anymore. facepalm

    Just because he wants to play with Barcelona one day means fuck all with him wanting to leave Arsenal.

    Be honest, if Fabregas had the choice, do you think he would play for Arsenal or Barcelona?
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    Post by blackskar Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:52 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:[
    Be honest, if Fabregas had the choice, do you think he would play for Arsenal or Barcelona?

    Give any player that choice and 99% of them would say Barca....

    Point is. He has said he wants to play for Barca, but has also said he'd be happy to stay put. No one is holding him against his will or anything stupid like that, like you are trying to force. So please stop the nonsense.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:56 am

    blackskar wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:[
    Be honest, if Fabregas had the choice, do you think he would play for Arsenal or Barcelona?

    Give any player that choice and 99% of them would say Barca....

    Point is. He has said he wants to play for Barca, but has also said he'd be happy to stay put. No one is holding him against his will or anything stupid like that, like you are trying to force. So please stop the nonsense.
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    Post by Grenade Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:36 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Who the fuck do you think you talking to? You are a disgrace.

    I'm glad we've reached the understanding that Fabregas wants to play for Barcelona. Given that he can only play for one club at a time (unless FIFA rules have changed since I last looked) that must mean he wants to leave Arsenal to join Barcelona. If you are saying that he will play for Barca is they bid the price Arsenal demand, then it is even more obvious.

    It is his will to play for Barcelona, therefore it is his will to leave Arsenal, Arsenal's refusal to terminate his contract prevents him from doing that, therefore he is being kept at Arsenal against his will. Are you actually form Poland because that's what your understanding of the English language suggests.
    This situation is actually much like how Real had to meet the Man United valuation of Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo loves United as well much like Fabregas, so he obviously had no quells with staying at United, but Real Madrid payed the price Manchester United valued him at and he left to another club he also loves.
    Yes is is like the Ronaldo situation, in that a player is being kept at a club against his will. The difference is that we didn't steal Ronaldo in the first place, we paid well above market value for him.

    Lol.

    Also you say he should play for whichever club he has the will to play for but when he was at Barca and wanted to join Arsenal how is that different ?
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:19 am

    Most definitely, but he can't so he'll have to deal with it.
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    Post by fluffy_kittens Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:33 pm

    Barcelona hasn't made a big enough bid yet. If Torres was worth 50mil Cesc should be more then that but Barca knows he wants to go there so they are trying to get him for cheap.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:39 pm

    RR im not sure if your stupid or deliberately trolling its obvious that he wants to go Barcelona anyone would but he happy at Arsenal. But being RR you have to create a stupid thread where you can massarge your ego and think your the most intelligent poster improving its quality while your here. When infact your doing quite the oppersite you regulary cause controversy im surprised you havent been banned but untill then everyone on the fourm will have to deal with this cancer thats ruining the fourm.



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    Post by menalawyerguy Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:56 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    polska. wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    polska. wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Seems obvious to me, but a lot of Arsenal fans are saying he doesn't want to leave.
    Oh shut the fuck up.

    Your were arguing that Fabregas is in Arsenal against his will. facepalm

    Like I and others have said, Fabregas is under contract at Arsenal. He is owned by Arsenal, not Barcelona, therefore if Barcelona want Cesc, than they will have to pay the price Arsenal demand.

    Fabregas in Arsenal against his will? Really? He has said he wants to play for Barcelona, he however hasn't said a single damn thing about wanting to leave Arsenal. He loves Arsenal as well and I am sure will have no gripes about staying at the club should Barcelona not meet the fee.

    Only bitters such as yourselves think he wants to leave the club.
    Who the fuck do you think you talking to? You are a disgrace.

    I'm glad we've reached the understanding that Fabregas wants to play for Barcelona. Given that he can only play for one club at a time (unless FIFA rules have changed since I last looked) that must mean he wants to leave Arsenal to join Barcelona. If you are saying that he will play for Barca is they bid the price Arsenal demand, then it is even more obvious.

    It is his will to play for Barcelona, therefore it is his will to leave Arsenal, Arsenal's refusal to terminate his contract prevents him from doing that, therefore he is being kept at Arsenal against his will. Are you actually form Poland because that's what your understanding of the English language suggests.

    I don't even know if you are being serious anymore. facepalm

    Just because he wants to play with Barcelona one day means fuck all with him wanting to leave Arsenal.

    Be honest, if Fabregas had the choice, do you think he would play for Arsenal or Barcelona?

    If I had the choice between Jessica Biel and Jessica Alba, I'd fuck Jessica Biel. But if I had to fuck Alba, I wouldn't say my cock is being used against my will.


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    Post by menalawyerguy Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:58 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Who the fuck do you think you talking to? You are a disgrace.

    I don't know. Who are we talking to? The King of England? Stop taking yourself so seriously.

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Are you actually form Poland because that's what your understanding of the English language suggests.

    That's just a sad display. Honestly. Even for you.


    Btw, you didn't even get the sentence right (as duly pointed out by grenade).
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    Post by Zzonked Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:29 pm

    Clearly he does, who wouldn't. However I think it's more down to Barca than Arsenal. If they met the valuation he would be allowed to leave, Arsenal have always known when to sell a player.
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    Post by Barton Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:41 pm

    Didn't he actually tell Arsene Wenger that he wanted to join Barcelona like a year ago?
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    Post by menalawyerguy Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:45 pm

    Zzonked wrote:Clearly he does, who wouldn't. However I think it's more down to Barca than Arsenal. If they met the valuation he would be allowed to leave, Arsenal have always known when to sell a player.

    That's exactly right. Arsenal isn't doing anything improper here. The fact that they got him for free is irrelevant. They've done nothing illegal and they have contractual rights in the player.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:47 pm

    Blackpool Rule wrote:RR im not sure if your stupid or deliberately trolling its obvious that he wants to go Barcelona anyone would but he happy at Arsenal. But being RR you have to create a stupid thread where you can massarge your ego and think your the most intelligent poster improving its quality while your here. When infact your doing quite the oppersite you regulary cause controversy im surprised you havent been banned but untill then everyone on the fourm will have to deal with this cancer thats ruining the fourm.



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    A cancer that is killing the forum rofl. He wants to go to Barcelona but Arsenal are preventing him from doing that, that's the point dick head.
    menalawyerguy wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    polska. wrote:
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    polska. wrote:Oh shut the fuck up.

    Your were arguing that Fabregas is in Arsenal against his will. facepalm

    Like I and others have said, Fabregas is under contract at Arsenal. He is owned by Arsenal, not Barcelona, therefore if Barcelona want Cesc, than they will have to pay the price Arsenal demand.

    Fabregas in Arsenal against his will? Really? He has said he wants to play for Barcelona, he however hasn't said a single damn thing about wanting to leave Arsenal. He loves Arsenal as well and I am sure will have no gripes about staying at the club should Barcelona not meet the fee.

    Only bitters such as yourselves think he wants to leave the club.
    Who the fuck do you think you talking to? You are a disgrace.

    I'm glad we've reached the understanding that Fabregas wants to play for Barcelona. Given that he can only play for one club at a time (unless FIFA rules have changed since I last looked) that must mean he wants to leave Arsenal to join Barcelona. If you are saying that he will play for Barca is they bid the price Arsenal demand, then it is even more obvious.

    It is his will to play for Barcelona, therefore it is his will to leave Arsenal, Arsenal's refusal to terminate his contract prevents him from doing that, therefore he is being kept at Arsenal against his will. Are you actually form Poland because that's what your understanding of the English language suggests.

    I don't even know if you are being serious anymore. facepalm

    Just because he wants to play with Barcelona one day means fuck all with him wanting to leave Arsenal.

    Be honest, if Fabregas had the choice, do you think he would play for Arsenal or Barcelona?

    If I had the choice between Jessica Biel and Jessica Alba, I'd fuck Jessica Biel. But if I had to fuck Alba, I wouldn't say my cock is being used against my will.

    That's not the scenario though. 3 years ago you agreed to have sex with Jessica Alba, and today, Jessica Biel tells you that she really wants to fuck you, but Jessica Alba puts a chastity belt on you, and will only let you fuck her. You'll still enjoy fucking her, but if Jessica Biel's saying 'Come on Mena, fuck me instead' and you want to, then it's against your will.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:47 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:Clearly he does, who wouldn't. However I think it's more down to Barca than Arsenal. If they met the valuation he would be allowed to leave, Arsenal have always known when to sell a player.

    That's exactly right. Arsenal isn't doing anything improper here. The fact that they got him for free is irrelevant. They've done nothing illegal and they have contractual rights in the player.

    I'm not questioning the legality of it, I'm questioning the morality of it.
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    menalawyerguy wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:Clearly he does, who wouldn't. However I think it's more down to Barca than Arsenal. If they met the valuation he would be allowed to leave, Arsenal have always known when to sell a player.

    That's exactly right. Arsenal isn't doing anything improper here. The fact that they got him for free is irrelevant. They've done nothing illegal and they have contractual rights in the player.

    It's not illegal but the ethics are questionable, surely you'd agree?
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    Post by blackskar Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:50 pm

    JMB_94 wrote:Didn't he actually tell Arsene Wenger that he wanted to join Barcelona like a year ago?

    He's said that many times before. He's made no secret that he wants to play for Barca.

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