Disagree, look at his stats and of course his general play on the field, no one in a top European league has recorded more assists over the past two years than he has. But I digress. 
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If Stewart Downing was...
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Agree with Dayna.
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Bundesliga is hardly a top European league...
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True true, just a massive back alley kick about between nazi's and soviet bloc dudes.
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dena wrote:True true, just a massive back alley kick about between nazi's and soviet bloc dudes.
Hahahaha. Winning.
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Hey Dena, fuck off you patronising twat.
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James wrote:Bundesliga is hardly a top European league...
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James wrote:Walcott is played on the wing though.
And Dena, obviously there is exceptions but Ozil isn't one of them. He is a good player, not world class.. yet.
Yes he is, his only weakness is that he can't have a run of 5-6 games where he rapes everyone, he'll develop that consistency though and he'll be one of the world's best.
I mean tell me I team other than Barcelona he won't get into.
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I'd rather be patronizing that close minded. 
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It is alot easier for Ozil to get assists and goals for one of the best teams in Germany and the 2nd best team in Spain.
Downing played for a relegation fighting team.
Downing played for a relegation fighting team.
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The Bat-Man wrote:James wrote:Walcott is played on the wing though.
And Dena, obviously there is exceptions but Ozil isn't one of them. He is a good player, not world class.. yet.
Yes he is, his only weakness is that he can't have a run of 5-6 games where he rapes everyone, he'll develop that consistency though and he'll be one of the world's best.
I mean tell me I team other than Barcelona he won't get into.
Contradicting yourself, moron.
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James wrote:Bundesliga is hardly a top European league...
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dena wrote:James wrote:£22m doesn't buy you world class players anymore... It buys you good players. Stop living in the past.
Mesut Ozil
Ozil wasn't World Class when Madrid bought him though.
Unless I've come in and got the wrong end of the stick.
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James wrote:It is alot easier for Ozil to get assists and goals for one of the best teams in Germany and the 2nd best team in Spain.
Downing played for a relegation fighting team.
I'm not even comparing Downing and Ozil, that'd be disrespectful. I'm saying you can get world class players for 20-23m, depends on scouting and of course timing of a transfer, but it's not impossible.
Cameron. wrote:dena wrote:James wrote:£22m doesn't buy you world class players anymore... It buys you good players. Stop living in the past.
Mesut Ozil
Ozil wasn't World Class when Madrid bought him though.
Unless I've come in and got the wrong end of the stick.
He came off two consecutive 20+ assist seasons, a U-21 C'ship in which he rolled fools, and a fantastic World Cup... he was right there, people just werent paying attention.
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James wrote:The Bat-Man wrote:James wrote:Walcott is played on the wing though.
And Dena, obviously there is exceptions but Ozil isn't one of them. He is a good player, not world class.. yet.
Yes he is, his only weakness is that he can't have a run of 5-6 games where he rapes everyone, he'll develop that consistency though and he'll be one of the world's best.
I mean tell me I team other than Barcelona he won't get into.
Getting touchy because I have an opinion, nice.
There is a difference between world class and being one of the world's best.
Fabregas is world class, Xavi is one of the world's best.
Van Persie is world class, Messi is the world's best.
Difference.
Oezil is world class, and he can still be one of he world's best if he becomes consistent.
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On a side note, if van Persie stayed fit for a whole season I think he can prove that he is one of the world's best strikers, he really can and if Xavi and Iniesta weren't here Fabregas and possibly Alonso would be considered the most creative central midfielders of their generation.
Although in my biased opinion I think Cesc can pass just as well as or even better than Iniesta, Iniesta is light years ahead in terms of dribbling and close control though.
Although in my biased opinion I think Cesc can pass just as well as or even better than Iniesta, Iniesta is light years ahead in terms of dribbling and close control though.
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No... Worlds best = World class.
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The Bat-Man wrote:On a side note, if van Persie stayed fit for a whole season I think he can prove that he is one of the world's best strikers, he really can and if Xavi and Iniesta weren't here Fabregas and possibly Alonso would be considered the most creative central midfielders of their generation.
Although in my biased opinion I think Cesc can pass just as well as or even better than Iniesta, Iniesta is light years ahead in terms of dribbling and close control though.
I don't think anyone cares
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James wrote:No... Worlds best = World class.
You would say both van Persie and Messi and world class, Fabregas and Xavi are world class but they're not on the same level though.
Messi got 50+ goals last season and Xavi is probably the greatest creative central midfielder of all time.
Oezil and Iniesta are world class, they'd get into any team, but Iniesta is the world's best in his position, better than Oezil.
I think that if Oezil can be a lot more consistent he'll be one of the world's best, but it's a big if.
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Van Persie isn't world class.
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James wrote:Van Persie isn't world class.
You are the new luke. Congrats 
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Downing is shit even if his middle name was Messi I still would not want him.
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James wrote:Van Persie isn't world class.
Yes he is, 18 goals in 17 games last season remember, that's what happens when he's fit for a prolonged period of time.
Don't forget the assists too.
Generally, if you've ever watch him play, you'll see the elegance and flair he goes about the game is just inspiring.
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Pilkz wrote:Like who?ZlatanFabregas wrote:Pilkz wrote:I don't see Mata playing for a premiership team come the start of the season.
That doesn't Mata
The point is, is that their are better quality players out there for same price.
Let's look at it this way, I'll try and make a list of players who would cost between £0 and £25 million, who are better than Downing.
Jesus Navas
Rafael van der Vaart
Florent Malouda
Andrei Arshavin
Juan Mata
Michel Bastos
Santi Cazorla
Jeremy Menez
Ashley Young
Marko Marin
Willian
Balzs Dzsudzsak
Theo Walcott
Samir Nasri
Arda Turna
Mathieu Valbuena
Kevin Grosskruetz
Andre Ayew
Silvestre Varella
There are possibly more.
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James wrote:Bundesliga is hardly a top European league...
WOW...You are simpily a retard...
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James wrote:Arsenal and Liverpool fans desperately want to progress, both are crying out for more money to be spent then complain when it is gonna be spent...
Because Downing isn't worth the money, not good enough for significant progress at Arsenal and we can sign much better players for similar/lower prices.
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Fantastic thread.
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It wasn't me.
Looking back, I think this was a troll thread. RVP and Bundesliga comments give that away.
Looking back, I think this was a troll thread. RVP and Bundesliga comments give that away.
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Tbf James, no one would have thought he'd be this shit.
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I did think he'd be better than he has been. Part of that can be put down to the shit he has had to play with though. Attacking wise, Liverpool are worse than Villa last season?
