Smalling and Jones

Lux wrote:

Chris wrote:Wilshere is better than Modric and has proved it at the highest level V the best team in the world and is also probably best performing player in the national team right now. Modric bottled it against Real Madrid and it was the Bale show during the Champions League for Spurs.

Its like you saying Thiago > Fabregas. Modric > Fabregas. But the fact you talk about Barcelona players all the time gives us pity on you.. you have lost the love for Liverpool and jumped ships.

and Fabregas bottled it more than anyone vs Barcelona. He was like a 12th player for Barcelona.

arsenalap11 wrote:Maybe because he was injured and had to get subbed off because of it

Lux wrote:

Chris wrote:Wilshere is better than Modric and has proved it at the highest level V the best team in the world and is also probably best performing player in the national team right now. Modric bottled it against Real Madrid and it was the Bale show during the Champions League for Spurs.

Its like you saying Thiago > Fabregas. Modric > Fabregas. But the fact you talk about Barcelona players all the time gives us pity on you.. you have lost the love for Liverpool and jumped ships.

and Fabregas bottled it more than anyone vs Barcelona. He was like a 12th player for Barcelona.

arsenalap11 wrote:It was his hamstring. Course his passing would have been off.

Fine Shagger wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:It was his hamstring. Course his passing would have been off.

Wait wait wait wait.

Now, when I seen the line-up, I told you Arse fans that Wenger was taking a big risk playing an injured player.

Your reaction: If he's passed fit then he's fine to play.

So yeah...fuck that excuse, you can't have it both ways.

Fine Shagger wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:It was his hamstring. Course his passing would have been off.

Wait wait wait wait.

Now, when I seen the line-up, I told you Arse fans that Wenger was taking a big risk playing an injured player.

Your reaction: If he's passed fit then he's fine to play.

So yeah...fuck that excuse, you can't have it both ways.

arsenalap11 wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:It was his hamstring. Course his passing would have been off.

Wait wait wait wait.

Now, when I seen the line-up, I told you Arse fans that Wenger was taking a big risk playing an injured player.

Your reaction: If he's passed fit then he's fine to play.

So yeah...fuck that excuse, you can't have it both ways.

He did pass fit, but obviously he wasn't because he felt the injury from pretty much the start of the game.

Chris wrote:Didn't happen.

Plus.. why can't we have it both ways? If Fabregas is passed fit to play then he plays. If then when he is on the field its quite obvious he's not playing his usual cover every blade of grass and dictating our play then there is something wrong.

Fine Shagger wrote:

Chris wrote:Didn't happen.

Plus.. why can't we have it both ways? If Fabregas is passed fit to play then he plays. If then when he is on the field its quite obvious he's not playing his usual cover every blade of grass and dictating our play then there is something wrong.

Because the passing him fit was obviously a pile of shit as I said back then, you simply don't recover from a hamstring injury that quick.

Chris wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

Chris wrote:Didn't happen.

Plus.. why can't we have it both ways? If Fabregas is passed fit to play then he plays. If then when he is on the field its quite obvious he's not playing his usual cover every blade of grass and dictating our play then there is something wrong.

Because the passing him fit was obviously a pile of shit as I said back then, you simply don't recover from a hamstring injury that quick.

You neither us don't have a clue what tests he did before the game or how bad his injury was. All we got was "he passed a fitness test". So naturally we want him to play.

Fine Shagger wrote:

Chris wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

Chris wrote:Didn't happen.

Plus.. why can't we have it both ways? If Fabregas is passed fit to play then he plays. If then when he is on the field its quite obvious he's not playing his usual cover every blade of grass and dictating our play then there is something wrong.

Because the passing him fit was obviously a pile of shit as I said back then, you simply don't recover from a hamstring injury that quick.

You neither us don't have a clue what tests he did before the game or how bad his injury was. All we got was "he passed a fitness test". So naturally we want him to play.

Then don't use his injury as an excuse for a shit performance.

Fine Shagger wrote:I'm not. I think he was injured and I think he was shit. The performance isn't excused by injury though.

Chris wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:I'm not. I think he was injured and I think he was shit. The performance isn't excused by injury though.

So you are saying a player can play just as good while be injured?

Fine Shagger wrote:

Chris wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:I'm not. I think he was injured and I think he was shit. The performance isn't excused by injury though.

So you are saying a player can play just as good while be injured?

No i'm saying if he steps onto the pitch then tough shit, you're judged by your performance.

Fine Shagger wrote:I don't think so. Same way the people saying "Oh but Gerrard was on painkillers so it's ok he underperformed for well over a season"

Errr no. Like Gerrard, Cesc chose to play injured so can expect to be criticised for his performance.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why does he need an 'excuse'? The explanation for him playing badly is that he was injured, that's the end of it. What purpose does attributing blame to him for his performance serve? It seems completely pointless to me.