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    Who is the best ever England manager?

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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:59 am

    Who?

    I've left out the managers that were only in the job for a short while (Joe Mercer, Peter Taylor and Howard Wilkinson)


    The statistics, going on Win %, suggest that Capello is the best manager we've ever had, but Sir Alf Ramsey is the only manager that has won anything.

    Glenn Hoddle, Ron Greenwood and Sven all have high win percentages too.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_football_team_manager
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:00 am

    Statistically Capello.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:00 am

    I hate Capello.
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    Post by Danny Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:02 am

    Alf Ramsey by a fucking mile. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:03 am

    Steve McClaren in the lead. Looks like we have England's best ever manager as our manager then Cool
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    Post by crump Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:05 am

    Steve Mclaren has passion, determination and confidence.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:06 am

    You're all a bunch of cunts. Every one of you. Seriously. General thread asking a normal question and you choose an answer which you know fine well isn't the best ever manager. I hope you all fucking die.
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    Post by crump Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:07 am

    Now you know how I feel
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:08 am

    I hope everyone who voted McClaren dies tonight.
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    Post by Childish Logic Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:08 am

    Ramsey.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:12 am

    Obviously Ramsey.. he won the fucking world cup.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:15 am

    Steve McClaren cheers
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    Post by ShakerMatty Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:16 am

    sven was good, Surprised
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:10 am

    Steve Mclaren, hands down.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:23 am

    Capello. People go on about Ramsey, as though he was this genius, he wasn't. This freemason won a World Cup in extremely dodgy circumstances on home soil and never won anything else in 11 years of managing England, indeed in 1970 he managed to throw away a great chance to reach the Semis again, I believe. The rest of his career was hardly a series of successes either.
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    Post by Danny Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:24 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Capello. People go on about Ramsey, as though he was this genius, he wasn't. This freemason won a World Cup in extremely dodgy circumstances on home soil and never won anything else in 11 years of managing England, indeed in 1970 he managed to throw away a great chance to reach the Semis again, I believe. The rest of his career was hardly a series of successes either.
    Only England manager to win a trophy. Don't care how or where, no one else has done it. And it's gonna be a long time before someone else does.

    Capello's probably not even top 5. Neutral
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:27 am

    Danny wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Capello. People go on about Ramsey, as though he was this genius, he wasn't. This freemason won a World Cup in extremely dodgy circumstances on home soil and never won anything else in 11 years of managing England, indeed in 1970 he managed to throw away a great chance to reach the Semis again, I believe. The rest of his career was hardly a series of successes either.
    Only England manager to win a trophy. Don't care how or where, no one else has done it. And it's gonna be a long time before someone else does.

    Capello's probably not even top 5. Neutral

    If Capello had a World Cup in England where referees were favouring his team and working against other major competitors such as Brazil, giving England goals which did not cross the line, or occurred during pitch invasions, or sending off opposing players for the way they looked at them, then maybe he would win one as well.
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    Post by Danny Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:29 am

    All right then.

    Only England manager to win a trophy = best England manager in my eyes. No question.

    If you wanna vote for someone who can't speak our language well at all, and had simply an awful World Cup- getting pretty much everything wrong, go ahead.

    If you were voting Bobby Robson though, I'd understand.
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    Post by Pimp Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:33 am

    Bobby Robson.

    Alf Ramsey is overrated.

    But if I could I'd have none of them as they have had us kicking it long and playing in straight lines for the last 100 fucking years.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:34 am

    Bobby Robson, another manager who is so fucking over-rated based on one tournament.

    You put too much emphasis on results, if Capello had a shite World Cup it wouldn't make him a shite manager, he is still one of the best managers in the world, and the best England have ever had. If England fail it's in spite of him, not because of him.
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    Post by Barton Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:35 am

    How the hell are people suggestion Capello is the best England manager of all time? Who is the best ever England manager? 894246

    So far he's gotten us through a VERY easy World Cup qualifiying group with no problems, fair enough. Then at the World Cup itself, we were abysmal in every single game, everything from his tactics to decision making was embarrassing.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:54 am

    So you're condemning him based on 4 games?
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:31 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So you're condemning him based on 4 games?

    They were rather a shit 4 games to be honest.
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    Post by Steadman Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:35 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So you're condemning him based on 4 games?

    They were rather a shit 4 games to be honest.
    Not to mention they were the most important matches of his time with England.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:38 am

    Capello for sure. Tactical mastermind unfortunately we had inadequate players such as Gerrard, Barry, Heskey and Carragher in the squad.
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    Post by Danny Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:30 pm

    Steadman wrote:
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    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So you're condemning him based on 4 games?

    They were rather a shit 4 games to be honest.
    Not to mention they were the most important matches of his time with England.
    Avsolutely spot on.

    Statistically him being the best England manager means fuck all. International management is all about the tournaments. Fail in those, you've not done a good enough job as manager. Suggesting Capello as our best ever manager is a joke. Only thing close to this he'd win is he's the best manager in his other jobs that's ever managed England.
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    Post by fluffy_kittens Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:23 pm

    SVEN
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    Post by Jordi Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:09 pm

    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Capello for sure. Tactical mastermind unfortunately we had inadequate players such as Gerrard, Barry, Heskey and Carragher in the squad.
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    Post by Zzonked Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:41 pm

    Danny wrote:All right then.

    Only England manager to win a trophy = best England manager in my eyes. No question.

    If you wanna vote for someone who can't speak our language well at all, and had simply an awful World Cup- getting pretty much everything wrong, go ahead.

    If you were voting Bobby Robson though, I'd understand.

    If John Terry hadn't missed his kick and Chelsea had won the CL, would you consider Avram Grant one of the best managers about?
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    Post by Danny Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:59 pm

    Zzonked wrote:
    Danny wrote:All right then.

    Only England manager to win a trophy = best England manager in my eyes. No question.

    If you wanna vote for someone who can't speak our language well at all, and had simply an awful World Cup- getting pretty much everything wrong, go ahead.

    If you were voting Bobby Robson though, I'd understand.

    If John Terry hadn't missed his kick and Chelsea had won the CL, would you consider Avram Grant one of the best managers about?
    No. Grant had it all done for him that season. Neutral

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