QPR'S automatic promotion into the Premier League is set to be blocked by the FA.
SunSport understands the runaway Championship leaders are likely to face a big points deduction - possibly up to 15 - if they are found guilty of breaking strict third-party ownership rules over the signing of Alejandro Faurlin.
The evidence against the West London club is said to be damning and they could now end up in the play-offs.
The only winners would be Cardiff and Norwich who could then go up automatically.
The hearing into the signing of the Argentine midfielder two years ago begins next Tuesday and a verdict will be delivered three days later.
A four-man panel will comprise an independent QC, two from the FA's disciplinary panel and a football expert who will be either a former player or boss.
In theory, they should begin with a blank sheet of paper but many at the FA are openly discussing the case and reckon QPR - five points clear at the top of the table - are in big trouble. Those who have seen the evidence say Rangers are defending the indefensible.
An FA source said: "There's no question QPR have broken the rules. They know it as well. The only debate is what to do about it.
"If they aren't found guilty you might as well scrap the rules about third-party owners."
Some within the corridors of power believe QPR should be hit hard because they were well aware they were acting outside the regulations.
When West Ham were punished over the Carlos Tevez affair they were actually found guilty of failure to disclose information - not of breaking third-party ownership rules because such legislation did not exist.
Since then the FA have made third-party ownership illegal so the argument is QPR were worse offenders because they were well aware they were committing an offence.
If Neil Warnock's side are found guilty they will have seven days to appeal.
However, if QPR take legal action or other clubs decide to seek legal avenues because of points they lost when Faurlin played against them, the whole issue could drag on throughout the summer.
The nightmare scenario could even be that the Championship promotion play-offs do not take place at all until the issue is resolved.
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FA set to strip QPR of automatic promotion to Premier League
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When did they sign him?
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Didn't they have a different board then?
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Good. I want Leeds promoted.
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If this happens ...
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Jelavic18|RFC wrote:If this happens ...
they'll still be better than Rangers..
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Eternal Witcher wrote:Good. I want Leeds promoted.
Surely that points deduction would mean that they go into the play offs and knock one of the teams out.
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Dan wrote:Didn't they have a different board then?
Not sure, they might have cos they had that Indian guy who was something like the 4th richest person in the world
Eternal Witcher wrote:Good. I want Leeds promoted.
Unlikely now. 3 points off 6th and Forest have 2 easy games left. Plus, even with a points deduction, QPR will just be in the Play-Offs instead.
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What a fucking ant-climax to their season if this happens.
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Cam wrote:Eternal Witcher wrote:Good. I want Leeds promoted.
Surely that points deduction would mean that they go into the play offs and knock one of the teams out.
It'll knock Cardiff and Norwich up into the Top 2, Play Offs will stay the same but with QPR instead of either Cardiff or Norwich
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Dan wrote:Jelavic18|RFC wrote:If this happens ...
they'll still be better than Rangers..
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Forest wrote:Cam wrote:Eternal Witcher wrote:Good. I want Leeds promoted.
Surely that points deduction would mean that they go into the play offs and knock one of the teams out.
It'll knock Cardiff and Norwich up into the Top 2, Play Offs will stay the same but with QPR instead of either Cardiff or Norwich
Ahh ok.
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Jelavic18|RFC wrote:Dan wrote:Jelavic18|RFC wrote:If this happens ...
they'll still be better than Rangers..
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Dan wrote:Jelavic18|RFC wrote:Dan wrote:Jelavic18|RFC wrote:If this happens ...
they'll still be better than Rangers..
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Good - that'll piss on Warnock's parade.
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Cam wrote:Eternal Witcher wrote:Good. I want Leeds promoted.
Surely that points deduction would mean that they go into the play offs and knock one of the teams out.
I was hoping they'd be able to sneak into the automatic promotion spot. Apparently not
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Dan wrote:Jelavic18|RFC wrote:If this happens ...
they'll still be better than Rangers..
Does not compute. I am not better than myself. Rangers can't possibly be better than Rangers.
How come it took 2 years to get this resolved? Seems like something that should have been taken care of ages ago. Doesn't make sense if the team (the players and coaches) are made to pay for something that suits did years ago.
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Scuba Steve wrote:Dan wrote:Jelavic18|RFC wrote:If this happens ...
they'll still be better than Rangers..
Does not compute. I am not better than myself. Rangers can't possibly be better than Rangers.
How come it took 2 years to get this resolved? Seems like something that should have been taken care of ages ago. Doesn't make sense if the team (the players and coaches) are made to pay for something that suits did years ago.
They only found out about it a few months ago I think
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pretty shocking, but hooray for Cardiff, have friends from there who are gonna go crazy about the promotion
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Hope they make it up still.
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Mustangt125 wrote:Hope they make it up still.
agreed, they still desrve it for their on the field play
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RobbieSavageIsA... wrote:Good - that'll piss on Warnock's parade.
Exactly what I was thinking. He's a right cunt. So full of shit and unsportsmanlike it's unreal the fat prick.
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This is stupid
West Ham get fined £5m (and eventually more to be paid to Sheff Utd but it was worth it to stay up)....and no points deduction.
So why do QPR get one? Nice consistency there...and this case isn't even as bad as West Ham's.
West Ham get fined £5m (and eventually more to be paid to Sheff Utd but it was worth it to stay up)....and no points deduction.
So why do QPR get one? Nice consistency there...and this case isn't even as bad as West Ham's.
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Would be hilarious.
Imagine if they just said no you can't go up and docked 30 points leaving an extra playoff place for us to fight for.
Imagine if they just said no you can't go up and docked 30 points leaving an extra playoff place for us to fight for.
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Wont happen
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Yes! Me and you Woody are of to Wembley!
My dad supports Forest, the why Ill be going, if anyones wondering.
My dad supports Forest, the why Ill be going, if anyones wondering.
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It's only the Sun, they have been known to have 'sources' who don't tell the truth.
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Sounds stupid to punish a whole club and their fans for something that was done 2 years ago. Should just be fined heavily. If you are going to deduct points from the, they should start the EPL next season with negative points.
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This would be brutal if it does actually happens. After their great season if this happens I hope they win the playoffs because their guys do deserve promotion. Even though I support Reading and they are likely in the playoffs this is just not right.