Arsene Wenger and club finances

Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona want Wenger...err since when?

Luis Enrique, Michael Laudrup. A name like those will take over, not Wenger.

B0dunrin wrote:Chelsea hired Avram Grant though
Doesn't say too much that they wanted Wenger.

Laurencio wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona want Wenger...err since when?

Luis Enrique, Michael Laudrup. A name like those will take over, not Wenger.

Luis Enrique is leaving Barcelona at the end of the season and does not have anywhere near the coaching experience to take over a side like Barcelona. He's no guardiola, and Michael Laudrup hasn't really done anyhting that should warrant Barcelona being intersted in him and he's got a contract with Mallorca until 2012.

Mal wrote:Arsene Wenger is taking too much criticism lately. He is Arsenal's greatest ever manager and when he was given money in the past, he used it. Thierry Henry was bought for £12m in 1999 which was a big sum then.

With the move to The Emirates Stadium, the board are trying to keep the club running without extra loans. We had to sell Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Adebayor two years ago to raise money but the genius Wenger is, he sold the right players for good prices, one's been shipped out on loan and another has been suspended. Although Toure would be a nice bit of experience in Arsenal's back four.

Most Arsenal fans expect a lot because of the high expectations Wenger has created. Before Wenger, Arsenal finished in the top four 23 times in 92 seasons. Under Wenger, Arsenal have finished in the top four 14 times in his 14 seasons.

I agree he has become stubborn but the bargain basement signings are because he's forced to. Arsenal had really good end of year financial results because of property sales. Them properties are gone now with Arsenal having shit commercial deals which can't be dealt with until 2014. From August 2011, Tottenham will make more money commercially than Arsenal despite being a much smaller club. (no dig) Hopefully Stan Kroenke will want to invest in to the squad but we have no idea about that.

Since Arsenal's last league title the net transfer spend of other clubs challenging for the CL is just remarkable.

Arsenal +£11.5m
Manchester United -£108.72m
Chelsea. -£397.95m
Manchester City -£435.2m
Tottenham -£239.6m.

Say what you wish but with that budget and the budgets of the clubs around, Arsenal shouldn't even be as high as they are. I'm an Arsenal fan and I have been my whole life. I'm as frustrated as any about the lack of trophies but without Wenger, where would we be? A lot of the players are there for him, a lot of the staff are there for him.


What manager can do a better job on a ridiculous budget like that?

Fine Shagger wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona want Wenger...err since when?

Luis Enrique, Michael Laudrup. A name like those will take over, not Wenger.

Luis Enrique is leaving Barcelona at the end of the season and does not have anywhere near the coaching experience to take over a side like Barcelona. He's no guardiola, and Michael Laudrup hasn't really done anyhting that should warrant Barcelona being intersted in him and he's got a contract with Mallorca until 2012.

If he's got a contract til 2012 then what's wrong with that? Guardiola is supposedly leaving after next season...

I'm just saying they'll go for someone with experience at Barcelona, Wenger hasn't even been linked by a single reputable source.

Laurencio wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona want Wenger...err since when?

Luis Enrique, Michael Laudrup. A name like those will take over, not Wenger.

Luis Enrique is leaving Barcelona at the end of the season and does not have anywhere near the coaching experience to take over a side like Barcelona.

menalawyerguy wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona want Wenger...err since when?

Luis Enrique, Michael Laudrup. A name like those will take over, not Wenger.

Luis Enrique is leaving Barcelona at the end of the season and does not have anywhere near the coaching experience to take over a side like Barcelona.

He has about the same exact experience that Guardiola had when he took over at Barcelona.

Laurencio wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona want Wenger...err since when?

Luis Enrique, Michael Laudrup. A name like those will take over, not Wenger.

Luis Enrique is leaving Barcelona at the end of the season and does not have anywhere near the coaching experience to take over a side like Barcelona.

He has about the same exact experience that Guardiola had when he took over at Barcelona.

Lightning does not strike twice. It would be next to impossible for Enrique to be a new Guardiola.

grenade187 wrote:And people like Fonesca want the man out

grenade187 wrote:And people like Fonesca want the man out

The-Reporter wrote:Somebody said Arshavin was a bad buy.

In 97 apps he's been worth 61 goals and smashed plenty of them in big games.

Mr Leiva wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:Somebody said Arshavin was a bad buy.

In 97 apps he's been worth 61 goals and smashed plenty of them in big games.

4-4

MickStupp wrote:

Mal wrote:Arsene Wenger is taking too much criticism lately. He is Arsenal's greatest ever manager and when he was given money in the past, he used it. Thierry Henry was bought for £12m in 1999 which was a big sum then.

With the move to The Emirates Stadium, the board are trying to keep the club running without extra loans. We had to sell Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Adebayor two years ago to raise money but the genius Wenger is, he sold the right players for good prices, one's been shipped out on loan and another has been suspended. Although Toure would be a nice bit of experience in Arsenal's back four.

Most Arsenal fans expect a lot because of the high expectations Wenger has created. Before Wenger, Arsenal finished in the top four 23 times in 92 seasons. Under Wenger, Arsenal have finished in the top four 14 times in his 14 seasons.

I agree he has become stubborn but the bargain basement signings are because he's forced to. Arsenal had really good end of year financial results because of property sales. Them properties are gone now with Arsenal having shit commercial deals which can't be dealt with until 2014. From August 2011, Tottenham will make more money commercially than Arsenal despite being a much smaller club. (no dig) Hopefully Stan Kroenke will want to invest in to the squad but we have no idea about that.

Since Arsenal's last league title the net transfer spend of other clubs challenging for the CL is just remarkable.

Arsenal +£11.5m
Manchester United -£108.72m
Chelsea. -£397.95m
Manchester City -£435.2m
Tottenham -£239.6m.

Say what you wish but with that budget and the budgets of the clubs around, Arsenal shouldn't even be as high as they are. I'm an Arsenal fan and I have been my whole life. I'm as frustrated as any about the lack of trophies but without Wenger, where would we be? A lot of the players are there for him, a lot of the staff are there for him.


What manager can do a better job on a ridiculous budget like that?

Walter Smith

Spending less money is all very well, but considering how much of a magnificent failure of a season this has been something needs to be done. I don't mean get rid of Wenger, but I'll compare them to Rangers:

Both clubs have spent much less money than their rivals in the past few years yet Rangers, despite admittedly not being as talented a squad as Celtic, have a winning mentality, they've had the experienced players that can win a trophy almost by sheer power of will. Of course the BPL is tougher, before anyone says that, but there's more pressure on each of the Old Firm to win the league.

Anyone see Lee Dixon talking about Arsenal on the BBC website? He was saying they need a "winner" and leader (he mentions possibly bringing in Clarence Seedorf). For me, if they find someone like that this summer they'll do well next year, that's all they need in my opinion.

19Jones19v wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:Somebody said Arshavin was a bad buy.

In 97 apps he's been worth 61 goals and smashed plenty of them in big games.

4-4

Say what you like out Arshavin, he turns up in the big games I don't give a shit if he doesn't seem bothered on the pitch. Scored 5 goals at Anfield within 2 games there bearing in mind that last goal he literally ran the pitch keeping up with Walcott and smashing it in. Scored a belter at Old Trafford that season, made another dash against Barcelona this season and I'm sure there are other important goals he's scored and created as well.
Not having a dig at you mr leiva.

Mr Leiva wrote:

19Jones19v wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:Somebody said Arshavin was a bad buy.

In 97 apps he's been worth 61 goals and smashed plenty of them in big games.

4-4

Say what you like out Arshavin, he turns up in the big games I don't give a shit if he doesn't seem bothered on the pitch. Scored 5 goals at Anfield within 2 games there bearing in mind that last goal he literally ran the pitch keeping up with Walcott and smashing it in. Scored a belter at Old Trafford that season, made another dash against Barcelona this season and I'm sure there are other important goals he's scored and created as well.
Not having a dig at you mr leiva.

Never said he was poor or good.

Just stating the game where he scored 4 past us.

Fonseca wrote:

grenade187 wrote:And people like Fonesca want the man out

What's the point of being in competitions when you don't spend the money or barely bother? What's the point in saying you want him to change so he can stay, when he's not changed for 6 years? What's the point of making us money in an entertaining sport? So a Chelsea fan can brag trophies while you brag about money?

This is the only place where people by a majority don't want Wenger out, I said I wanted him by next season anyway