coolhead33 wrote:If people in the 60's, 70's etc could play all game every game without being subbed off or having a break then I'm sure Wilshere and Carroll could.
Different game now. You have to be more of an athlete than you did back then.
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Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Mal Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:14 am
Different game now. You have to be more of an athlete than you did back then.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by coolhead33 Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:19 am
Still shouldn't make a massive difference. The players were a lot tougher than as well. They should swap around.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Barton Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:23 am
Don't think Wilshere should go as hes basically an established player in the senior squad, i don't see how going to the U-21 European Championship would benefit him.
Carroll could do with the expereince, and its a good opportunity for him to prove himself.
Carroll could do with the expereince, and its a good opportunity for him to prove himself.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:24 am
Wilshere after this season needs a good rest. He's been fit all season and played 90 minutes almost every game.
I thought the idea of the U21's was to find the players for the senior team, Wilshere is already in that team so whats the point of him taking somebody else's place who deserves a chance to show his skills? We all know what Jack can do.
I thought the idea of the U21's was to find the players for the senior team, Wilshere is already in that team so whats the point of him taking somebody else's place who deserves a chance to show his skills? We all know what Jack can do.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:25 am
coolhead33 wrote:Still shouldn't make a massive difference. The players were a lot tougher than as well. They should swap around.
Has no impact. All players then were out drinking, smoking, eating fish and chips after games. And played at a much lower pace.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:27 am
Yeh if you listen to old guys in football the main thing they say thats different with todays game is its so fast. Back in the 70's each player wouldn't cover 10km a match like they do now.Dan wrote:coolhead33 wrote:Still shouldn't make a massive difference. The players were a lot tougher than as well. They should swap around.
Has no impact. All players then were out drinking, smoking, eating fish and chips after games. And played at a much lower pace.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by El Jefe Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:28 am
Would prefer Carroll to rest up tbh; wouldn't want him playing too many matches so soon after a bad injury.
For Wilshere it's his first full season as a regular so I think it would also benefit him to not travel with the U21's.
After-all, these 2 players will probably both be picked for the Euro 2012 squad so that would be like 2 years non-stop for them. Not the best idea so soon after becoming regulars at their respective club teams, and the national side.
For Wilshere it's his first full season as a regular so I think it would also benefit him to not travel with the U21's.
After-all, these 2 players will probably both be picked for the Euro 2012 squad so that would be like 2 years non-stop for them. Not the best idea so soon after becoming regulars at their respective club teams, and the national side.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Scuba Steve Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:03 am
Should Juan Agudelo?
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by GCU Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:11 am
lol playing under stuart pearce will do more harm than good hes the most unprofessional and tactically clueless manager working in the uk. wilshere will learn more from training at arsenal rather than playing out of position and chasing longballs like to many players under pearce and what makes it even more funny is that hes gonna get a new contract to coach that team so it will just keep goin on
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:12 am
Scuba Steve wrote:Should Juan Agudelo?
Nope he's already world class
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Scuba Steve Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:14 am
Hmm.... that is probably labeling him too soon. But his winner against South Africa and equalizer against Argentina at the age of 18 does indicate that he has the potential to rival the best American born striker ever, Giuseppe Rossi.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:18 am
Scuba Steve wrote:Hmm.... that is probably labeling him too soon. But his winner against South Africa and equalizer against Argentina at the age of 18 does indicate that he has the potential to rival the best American born striker ever, Giuseppe Rossi.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Scuba Steve Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:21 am
There might be some confusion in the last post. Meant to say best ever striker born in the USA, not to be confused wiht any other country that might be considered part of America.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:26 am
Scuba Steve wrote:There might be some confusion in the last post. Meant to say best ever striker born in the USA, not to be confused wiht any other country that might be considered part of America.
No, I mean, wasn't Agudelo born in Colombia?.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Scuba Steve Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:28 am
Oh shit. Yeah haha. Sod it. He'll be the best striker to have ever been developed in the USA... 
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:49 am
if it means matt phillps not playing then i dont want them there ( i doubt he will go anyway because he plays for Blackpool its deemed unfashionble to have our players in international team)
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:12 am
Dan wrote:Scuba Steve wrote:There might be some confusion in the last post. Meant to say best ever striker born in the USA, not to be confused wiht any other country that might be considered part of America.
No, I mean, wasn't Agudelo born in Colombia?.
Scuba Steve wrote:Oh shit. Yeah haha. Sod it. He'll be the best striker to have ever been developed in the USA...
Dan steved Steve.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by blackskar Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:21 am
Rei wrote:Wilshere shouldn't IMO. He has already a shoe in for the senior team. Give him spot to another player who has to prove himself. Plus, Wilshere has been playing constantly for Arsenal, a full summer's break would do him some good.
Carrol on the other hand should go.
This.
Plus what Mal has said.
But it doesn't matter, Pearce and the FA will chose them regardless of what their respective clubs, managers or the players themselves say.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Scuba Steve Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:00 am
Rei wrote:Dan wrote:Scuba Steve wrote:There might be some confusion in the last post. Meant to say best ever striker born in the USA, not to be confused wiht any other country that might be considered part of America.
No, I mean, wasn't Agudelo born in Colombia?.Scuba Steve wrote:Oh shit. Yeah haha. Sod it. He'll be the best striker to have ever been developed in the USA...
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Grenade Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:19 am
Should just start on the bench IMO. Bring em on after we're 1nil down.
Plus I think Josh Mceachran is good enough for England U21 let him play I say and give him a chance to impress.
Plus I think Josh Mceachran is good enough for England U21 let him play I say and give him a chance to impress.
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Re: Should Wilshere and Carroll play in the U21's Championships?
by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:47 am
Scuba Steve wrote:Rei wrote:Dan wrote:Scuba Steve wrote:There might be some confusion in the last post. Meant to say best ever striker born in the USA, not to be confused wiht any other country that might be considered part of America.
No, I mean, wasn't Agudelo born in Colombia?.Scuba Steve wrote:Oh shit. Yeah haha. Sod it. He'll be the best striker to have ever been developed in the USA...
Dan steved Steve.
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You always win in the end.
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