Can't help thinking that a lot of what Torres has said about Liverpool since his departure has been taken out of context.
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Lux wrote:Dan wrote:Oh, sorry. Care to point out the bias please?
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On the day former Reds teammates Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher said they felt let down by Torres leaving, the Spanish striker has taken a swipe back at his old club
and then moan at Torres for talking about Liverpool? Someone who wasn't out to make Torres look bitter would've pointed out that he was probably just responding to the negative publicity Liverpool players were giving him.
If Luke replied "Hmmm. What's with Liverpool's constant talk of Nando?" you would've all started getting mad at him.
There's no constant talk. Gerrard and Carra went on Goals on Sunday and were asked a question about Torres. I don't think it's offensive or anything wrong with what they said. They felt let down, as we all did with him.
However, Torres has talked about these 'problems', how the 'atmosphere' at Chelsea is better (despite our lot seemingly enjoying themselves more in his absensce and is taking little digs at any opportunity.
A tinge of regret? It's as if he's still trying to justify his move. It's certainly not worked for him so far.
And luke. I hardly broke a rule did I? Show me what I did wrong with that comment?
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As ive already said Liverpool and Torres need to move on and forget what happened in the past and concentrate on the most important thing the Future. Caue i think we all no that Liverpool and Torres will need to keep working hard and try and move on. Torres should concentrate on his form at Chelski and Liverpool should concentrate on King Kenny and trying to keep moving the club in the correct direction.
Torres was amazing for Liverpool most times and we all loved him most times and i will never forget what he did for Liverpool most times he was there, just so sad it has ended the way it has but time to concentrate on the Future for both i would say. Im not bothered about Torres and what he does but dont wish him any harm just bad form especially if its against us. Im just bothered about my beloved Liverpool Football club and well Torres is nothing to do with us anymore.
Torres was amazing for Liverpool most times and we all loved him most times and i will never forget what he did for Liverpool most times he was there, just so sad it has ended the way it has but time to concentrate on the Future for both i would say. Im not bothered about Torres and what he does but dont wish him any harm just bad form especially if its against us. Im just bothered about my beloved Liverpool Football club and well Torres is nothing to do with us anymore.
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Dan wrote:There's no constant talk. Gerrard and Carra went on Goals on Sunday and were asked a question about Torres. I don't think it's offensive or anything wrong with what they said. They felt let down, as we all did with him.
There is though. Even Kenny was talking about Torres on another occasion, and that probably wasn't the only other occasion. Torres feels that Liverpool had a too many problems. He felt let down, as he and players such as Mascherano were too. Torres speaks his opinion, he should stop crying. Liverpool club/players/manager/owners say stuff, there's nothing wrong with it....they were asked a question and nothing wrong.
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However, Torres has talked about these 'problems', how the 'atmosphere' at Chelsea is better (despite our lot seemingly enjoying themselves more in his absensce and is taking little digs at any opportunity.
I don't think so. For a start, Torres leaving wasn't the only change at Liverpool...so blaming everything on Torres is wrong...especially when you've all been so harsh on so many other figures associated with the club. Also, Torres doesn't have a massive ego, from what I've seen of him he's a pretty down to Earth guy. I'd say these quotes are being taken out of context, and even if they're not......they usually follow unnecessary talk of Torres from the Liverpool contingency.
Dan wrote:A tinge of regret? It's as if he's still trying to justify his move. It's certainly not worked for him so far.
Is he supposed to say that he made the wrong decision or something? He's at a better club (performance/trophy winning wise), he's getting paid more and he's not the only one who has to score goals any more. I don't see why you'd begrudge Torres the chance to justify his move. He's DESPERATE to score and get going because the media are putting so much unfair pressure on him. He didn't pay £50m for himself, Chelsea did......I don't see even 1/10 the amount of pressure on Carroll and he's in the same situation. Sure, he's younger....he's had an injury...but you couldn't expect Torres to score bucket loads from the start either.
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And luke. I hardly broke a rule did I? Show me what I did wrong with that comment?
The point is that if Luke made a thread shit talking Gerrard/Carragher for what they said about Torres you + the Scouser Squad would be having a go.
In the end, the rules are that you shouldn't be having a go at other people on the forums...and Luke gets more than his fair share. He's pretty much holding the Chelsea flag on his own, where as this forum is filled with Liverpool fans who like to toss around insults. You're not the only ones, you just come down on people like a ton of bricks.
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Lux wrote:Dan wrote:There's no constant talk. Gerrard and Carra went on Goals on Sunday and were asked a question about Torres. I don't think it's offensive or anything wrong with what they said. They felt let down, as we all did with him.
There is though. Even Kenny was talking about Torres on another occasion, and that probably wasn't the only other occasion. Torres feels that Liverpool had a too many problems. He felt let down, as he and players such as Mascherano were too. Torres speaks his opinion, he should stop crying. Liverpool club/players/manager/owners say stuff, there's nothing wrong with it....they were asked a question and nothing wrong.
Kenny hasn't mentioned him since he left. A few days afterwards and that was it. I know he felt let down, but there's no need for him to keep mentioning it. He says he still respects us, that isn't respect.
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However, Torres has talked about these 'problems', how the 'atmosphere' at Chelsea is better (despite our lot seemingly enjoying themselves more in his absensce and is taking little digs at any opportunity.
I don't think so. For a start, Torres leaving wasn't the only change at Liverpool...so blaming everything on Torres is wrong...especially when you've all been so harsh on so many other figures associated with the club. Also, Torres doesn't have a massive ego, from what I've seen of him he's a pretty down to Earth guy. I'd say these quotes are being taken out of context, and even if they're not......they usually follow unnecessary talk of Torres from the Liverpool contingency.
Eh?I've no idea what you're talking about here. Blaming Torres? Where are we blaming Torres, and what for?
And who else have we been harsh on?
Dan wrote:A tinge of regret? It's as if he's still trying to justify his move. It's certainly not worked for him so far.
Is he supposed to say that he made the wrong decision or something? He's at a better club (performance/trophy winning wise), he's getting paid more and he's not the only one who has to score goals any more. I don't see why you'd begrudge Torres the chance to justify his move. He's DESPERATE to score and get going because the media are putting so much unfair pressure on him. He didn't pay £50m for himself, Chelsea did......I don't see even 1/10 the amount of pressure on Carroll and he's in the same situation. Sure, he's younger....he's had an injury...but you couldn't expect Torres to score bucket loads from the start either.
I won't begrude him anything. The way he left us, he deserves none of my respect and he won't get it.
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And luke. I hardly broke a rule did I? Show me what I did wrong with that comment?
The point is that if Luke made a thread shit talking Gerrard/Carragher for what they said about Torres you + the Scouser Squad would be having a go.
In the end, the rules are that you shouldn't be having a go at other people on the forums...and Luke gets more than his fair share. He's pretty much holding the Chelsea flag on his own, where as this forum is filled with Liverpool fans who like to toss around insults. You're not the only ones, you just come down on people like a ton of bricks.
I was talking to Luke.
Don't care if there's more Liverpool fans or not, he'll have a moan about the subject, but he was more than happy to talk about it when he handed his transfer request in.
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Lux wrote:Dan wrote:There's no constant talk. Gerrard and Carra went on Goals on Sunday and were asked a question about Torres. I don't think it's offensive or anything wrong with what they said. They felt let down, as we all did with him.
There is though. Even Kenny was talking about Torres on another occasion, and that probably wasn't the only other occasion. Torres feels that Liverpool had a too many problems. He felt let down, as he and players such as Mascherano were too. Torres speaks his opinion, he should stop crying. Liverpool club/players/manager/owners say stuff, there's nothing wrong with it....they were asked a question and nothing wrong.Dan wrote:
However, Torres has talked about these 'problems', how the 'atmosphere' at Chelsea is better (despite our lot seemingly enjoying themselves more in his absensce and is taking little digs at any opportunity.
I don't think so. For a start, Torres leaving wasn't the only change at Liverpool...so blaming everything on Torres is wrong...especially when you've all been so harsh on so many other figures associated with the club. Also, Torres doesn't have a massive ego, from what I've seen of him he's a pretty down to Earth guy. I'd say these quotes are being taken out of context, and even if they're not......they usually follow unnecessary talk of Torres from the Liverpool contingency.Dan wrote:A tinge of regret? It's as if he's still trying to justify his move. It's certainly not worked for him so far.
Is he supposed to say that he made the wrong decision or something? He's at a better club (performance/trophy winning wise), he's getting paid more and he's not the only one who has to score goals any more. I don't see why you'd begrudge Torres the chance to justify his move. He's DESPERATE to score and get going because the media are putting so much unfair pressure on him. He didn't pay £50m for himself, Chelsea did......I don't see even 1/10 the amount of pressure on Carroll and he's in the same situation. Sure, he's younger....he's had an injury...but you couldn't expect Torres to score bucket loads from the start either.Dan wrote:
And luke. I hardly broke a rule did I? Show me what I did wrong with that comment?
The point is that if Luke made a thread shit talking Gerrard/Carragher for what they said about Torres you + the Scouser Squad would be having a go.
In the end, the rules are that you shouldn't be having a go at other people on the forums...and Luke gets more than his fair share. He's pretty much holding the Chelsea flag on his own, where as this forum is filled with Liverpool fans who like to toss around insults. You're not the only ones, you just come down on people like a ton of bricks.
This is meant to be a friendly forum
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For £50 Million, I would expect him to score.
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1 - I wouldn't say Torres has spoken on the subject of Liverpool and talked shit about Liverpool on more occasions than Liverpool have spoken of Torres negatively. If you're going to play down what Liverpool have said, that's fine...but at least don't make a big deal out of what Torres says....
2 - I'm not a walking Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure more would say the same. That said, some/most were flops
3 - I don't expect you to like him for leaving, but how else was he supposed to leave? Liverpool would always be reluctant to let him go....and Torres didn't just ask on the last day to go...he was requesting that Liverpool get into the Champions League or he wants to go....so he asked to leave. Neither Liverpool or Torres have handled it as well as they could have, Torres could've been more professional but to be fair to him he's been taking a lot of shit from all the media yet alone Liverpool's fans/players etc.
4 - That was just the excitement of the transfer window....there was shit talking of Torres in that period too.....I thought this had all been forgotten already
1 - I wouldn't say Torres has spoken on the subject of Liverpool and talked shit about Liverpool on more occasions than Liverpool have spoken of Torres negatively. If you're going to play down what Liverpool have said, that's fine...but at least don't make a big deal out of what Torres says....
2 - I'm not a walking Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure more would say the same. That said, some/most were flops
3 - I don't expect you to like him for leaving, but how else was he supposed to leave? Liverpool would always be reluctant to let him go....and Torres didn't just ask on the last day to go...he was requesting that Liverpool get into the Champions League or he wants to go....so he asked to leave. Neither Liverpool or Torres have handled it as well as they could have, Torres could've been more professional but to be fair to him he's been taking a lot of shit from all the media yet alone Liverpool's fans/players etc.
4 - That was just the excitement of the transfer window....there was shit talking of Torres in that period too.....I thought this had all been forgotten already
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Lux wrote:Fails quotes
1 - I wouldn't say Torres has spoken on the subject of Liverpool and talked shit about Liverpool on more occasions than Liverpool have spoken of Torres negatively. If you're going to play down what Liverpool have said, that's fine...but at least don't make a big deal out of what Torres says....
2 - I'm not a walking Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure more would say the same. That said, some/most were flops
3 - I don't expect you to like him for leaving, but how else was he supposed to leave? Liverpool would always be reluctant to let him go....and Torres didn't just ask on the last day to go...he was requesting that Liverpool get into the Champions League or he wants to go....so he asked to leave. Neither Liverpool or Torres have handled it as well as they could have, Torres could've been more professional but to be fair to him he's been taking a lot of shit from all the media yet alone Liverpool's fans/players etc.
4 - That was just the excitement of the transfer window....there was shit talking of Torres in that period too.....I thought this had all been forgotten already
Fair enough on the first two points, your thoughts after all, obviously we won't agree.
However, the third point I don't agree with at all. We handled it brilliantly, as well as we could have anyway. He handed a transfer request in 3 days before the window closed, as a result, we spent £35m on Carroll. That left us in the lurch.
If he was that desperate to go, why then? Because he knew he'd force a move and we would have to sell. He never gave us a chance. Yeah, we had one bad season, but since Kenny took over, we've had the best form in the league. We aren't declining, far from it. Anyone who thinks that we are hasn't got a clue of what is happening at the club.
If he was that desperate for Champions League football, why did he not stick it out until the end of the season and see if we managed to reach it? It was going to be difficult, but with a partnership of Torres-Suarez, we'd have had a good chance. Not only that, but he spent this season sulking. That to me, regardless of whether you want to be there or not is a disgrace. The fans that idolised him and supported him as much as they did deserved better than that, his attitude was disgraceful.
Finally, he spent the months up to the transfer window harping on about needing to improve the squad and the owners needing to spend money. When did he decide to leave just as we broke our transfer record?
The whole charade stuck of lies from his part - we fell for his stories of his love for the city and it seems a lot of people also fell for this 'humble, down to earth' attitude. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Like I said, we got the £50m we wanted (which is looking like daylight robbery at the moment). How could we handle it any better?
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Dan wrote:However, the third point I don't agree with at all. We handled it brilliantly, as well as we could have anyway. He handed a transfer request in 3 days before the window closed, as a result, we spent £35m on Carroll. That left us in the lurch.
If he was that desperate to go, why then? Because he knew he'd force a move and we would have to sell. He never gave us a chance. Yeah, we had one bad season, but since Kenny took over, we've had the best form in the league. We aren't declining, far from it. Anyone who thinks that we are hasn't got a clue of what is happening at the club.
Well, I think he just felt that Liverpool's season was over already....I think most people did ...and even now I think 4th place is out of your reach. It's not impossible, I just don't think you'll do it
You say you're the form team of the league, but that's not strictly true. In the last 6 games, Chelsea and Everton have done as well as you. Sure, no one is doing better....but it's not like you're gaining that much ground on the top 4....at least fast enough to challenge.
I do agree, that under Kenny things have been looking greater....I did say 2 months ago+ that Liverpool could just challenge and things were looking good again, but Chelsea have picked up their form too. I think next season you have a chance.....but Torres was probably given promises that weren't kept...Chelsea have obviously given him promises that come the Summer there will be more money spent...and Torres's main aim is club trophies....Liverpool would have to spend big to have a chance....after splashing out of Carroll and Suarez is that guaranteed?
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If he was that desperate for Champions League football, why did he not stick it out until the end of the season and see if we managed to reach it? It was going to be difficult, but with a partnership of Torres-Suarez, we'd have had a good chance. Not only that, but he spent this season sulking. That to me, regardless of whether you want to be there or not is a disgrace. The fans that idolised him and supported him as much as they did deserved better than that, his attitude was disgraceful.
Well for a start....he's been put into THIS season's Champions League....he could still win the Champions League this season....a chance he wouldn't have at Liverpool. He could even win the title this season.... Torres wasn't on great form...I don't really know a lot about the sulking stuff but he's hungry for goals so I'm sure on the pitch he was trying his best.....he's obviously hungry at Chelsea and he's not playing differently to the way he did at Liverpool...that's just his style of play imo. When things are good he's great, when things aren't he mopes about. Like I said with the down to Earth stuff, I think he needs goals and confidence to be happy...he was lacking both at Liverpool.
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Finally, he spent the months up to the transfer window harping on about needing to improve the squad and the owners needing to spend money. When did he decide to leave just as we broke our transfer record?
The whole charade stuck of lies from his part - we fell for his stories of his love for the city and it seems a lot of people also fell for this 'humble, down to earth' attitude. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Like I said, we got the £50m we wanted (which is looking like daylight robbery at the moment). How could we handle it any better?
Well, in the end the only way the money was going to be spent in that window was if the money was raised from Torres himself. If Torres didn't go to Chelsea, Carroll wouldn't have gone to Liverpool...so I think that's a void point. In the coming Summer...sure you might spend big...but then again Chelsea will probably spend bigger.
I don't like the charade shit either, I had enough of that bollocks from Brendan Rodgers when he was with us. Maybe he does love the city of Liverpool...that doesn't mean he can't leave though. Either way, I don't think he's really gone back on his words....talking about love for Liverpool when you're the hero of Liverpool for a few seasons is just part and parcel of the job (and I'm sure he meant a little of it at least....)...Torres never unconditionally committed himself to Liverpool. He might've loved Liverpool, but it wasn't enough to quell his desire for club trophies.
He knew what he was doing, but he did give Liverpool a chance to convince him on more than one occasion. Torres wanted the money to be spent or he was going to leave...there was no doubt about that....so tbh I think the "surprise 3 days from end of window transfer request" talk is just masking what was obvious. I don't blame Henry for Torres leaving because this was his first transfer window, but had Henry joined a few months before he did things could be a lot different now.....it just didn't work out the way people hoped...
You don't have to like Torres, but he did make his intentions as clear as he could as soon as possible..
P.S. I don't think Liverpool could've done much better transfer wise, I was talking more about the talking of Torres afterwards.
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1 - I wouldn't say Torres has spoken on the subject of Liverpool and talked shit about Liverpool on more occasions than Liverpool have spoken of Torres negatively. If you're going to play down what Liverpool have said, that's fine...but at least don't make a big deal out of what Torres says....
2 - I'm not a walking Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure more would say the same. That said, some/most were flops
3 - I don't expect you to like him for leaving, but how else was he supposed to leave? Liverpool would always be reluctant to let him go....and Torres didn't just ask on the last day to go...he was requesting that Liverpool get into the Champions League or he wants to go....so he asked to leave. Neither Liverpool or Torres have handled it as well as they could have, Torres could've been more professional but to be fair to him he's been taking a lot of shit from all the media yet alone Liverpool's fans/players etc.
4 - That was just the excitement of the transfer window....there was shit talking of Torres in that period too.....I thought this had all been forgotten already
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In Torres' defence, Liverpool fans have been very ungrateful towards him. He did squander away 3 years of his career at that dump, a dump he only moved to, lets not forget, because he wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave, but Liverpool fans don't appreciate that.
After thinking about it again, I realised he's been pretty reserved in what he's said about the team and the fans who lied to him.
'You'll Never Walk Alone'.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave, but Liverpool fans don't appreciate that.
After thinking about it again, I realised he's been pretty reserved in what he's said about the team and the fans who lied to him.
'You'll Never Walk Alone'.
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Correct.ResurrectionRooney wrote: (1)He wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
(2)He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and ( Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they (3) basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. (4)He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave,
Tried his best? He wasn't trying for large periods in the rear end of his Liverpool career.
Hyperbole. (Double standards considering what the loutish United fans did upon hearing Rooney's transfer malarky)
Wrong.
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Fanatic wrote:Correct.ResurrectionRooney wrote: He wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave,
Tried his best? He wasn't trying for large periods in the rear end of his Liverpool career.
Hyperbole. (Double standards considering what the loutish United fans did upon hearing Rooney's transfer malarky)
Wrong.
Of course he was trying, he was simply struggling to feed on scraps. And it's not double standards, I know some United fans behaved in stupid ways when Rooney allegedly wanted to leave, but I criticised them as well. And I was talking metaphorically, I thought even Liverpool fans would be able to understand that, that's how obvious it was.
And it's not wrong, there were all those bullshit songs about Suarez and Torres' partnership coming up on YouTube.
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His endeavour on the pitch was terrible, whether he was feeding on scraps or not, he didn't apply himself properly. Why the metaphoric bullshit? Be candid but no need for the metaphoric bullshit. He didn't.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Fanatic wrote:Correct.ResurrectionRooney wrote: He wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave,
Tried his best? He wasn't trying for large periods in the rear end of his Liverpool career.
Hyperbole. (Double standards considering what the loutish United fans did upon hearing Rooney's transfer malarky)
Wrong.
Of course he was trying, he was simply struggling to feed on scraps. And it's not double standards, I know some United fans behaved in stupid ways when Rooney allegedly wanted to leave, but I criticised them as well. And I was talking metaphorically, I thought even Liverpool fans would be able to understand that, that's how obvious it was.
And it's not wrong, there were all those bullshit songs about Suarez and Torres' partnership coming up on YouTube.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:In Torres' defence, Liverpool fans have been very ungrateful towards him. He did squander away 3 years of his career at that dump, a dump he only moved to, lets not forget, because he wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave, but Liverpool fans don't appreciate that.
After thinking about it again, I realised he's been pretty reserved in what he's said about the team and the fans who lied to him.
'You'll Never Walk Alone'.
Burned his shirt one fukin fan i think that was. And a dump of a place that your fukin team used once as a League ground cause you fukin basterds were banned from Old Trafford and a Dump of a Place your fukin Famous Matt Busby played at for 4 Season's. I dont blame Torres for wanting to go to play Champion's League Football and hopefully challenge for a Tilte its just the way it happened and after all he said about how he loved Liverpool and its supporters and it was not the supporters that were at Fault for what was going on at the Club with our great American friends Hicks and Gillett.
And i always said if Torres left on without making a cunt out of Liverpool i would never say a thing about him cause for season's we had two Match winners him and Gerrard and the team and Squad was not good enough to win things although we had a few other good players but not enough Match winners. I always said since he moved we did get 50 million and made what 25 million or so on him, But even if he was so fuckin frustrated with Injuries and all the shit that was going on at Liverpool he looked like he was not fuckin interested and it started to show with his Work Rate and attitude on the park.
And yes i no myself the Liverpool team he was playing in was well lets say not very good especially last season and this and he was struggling with Injuries but all i wanted was for him to keep showing what he had said about Liverpool and its fans. Maybe it was sheer frustration with him but he seemed to have gave up and you no at any club when that happens people will not be happy.
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Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:In Torres' defence, Liverpool fans have been very ungrateful towards him. He did squander away 3 years of his career at that dump, a dump he only moved to, lets not forget, because he wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave, but Liverpool fans don't appreciate that.
After thinking about it again, I realised he's been pretty reserved in what he's said about the team and the fans who lied to him.
'You'll Never Walk Alone'.
Burned his shirt one fukin fan i think that was. And a dump of a place that your fukin team used once as a League ground cause you fukin basterds were banned from Old Trafford and a Dump of a Place your fukin Famous Matt Busby played at for 4 Season's. I dont blame Torres for wanting to go to play Champion's League Football and hopefully challenge for a Tilte its just the way it happened and after all he said about how he loved Liverpool and its supporters and it was not the supporters that were at Fault for what was going on at the Club with our great American friends Hicks and Gillett.
And i always said if Torres left on without making a cunt out of Liverpool i would never say a thing about him cause for season's we had two Match winners him and Gerrard and the team and Squad was not good enough to win things although we had a few other good players but not enough Match winners. I always said since he moved we did get 50 million and made what 25 million or so on him, But even if he was so fuckin frustrated with Injuries and all the shit that was going on at Liverpool he looked like he was not fuckin interested and it started to show with his Work Rate and attitude on the park.
And yes i no myself the Liverpool team he was playing in was well lets say not very good especially last season and this and he was struggling with Injuries but all i wanted was for him to keep showing what he had said about Liverpool and its fans. Maybe it was sheer frustration with him but he seemed to have gave up and you no at any club when that happens people will not be happy.
Have you ever been to Anfield? I was being a bit too kind when I called it a dump, it's not that nice. We did once have to use it, that's true, but if Mr. Hilton goes and stays in a shitty B & B in Swansea because he's been banned from his own hotels, it doesn't make the shitty B & B a 5 star hotel.
I've never really understood what this phrase 'match-winners' means, but immediately before Torres left, Liverpool had plenty of decent attackers, Kuyt, Suarez, Gerrard, that massive signing Liverpool fans were really happy about (Joe Cole), Raul Meireles and the most expensive signing by any British club in history at the time.
He wasn't lying about caring about Liverpool, he just wasn't fully fit and he wasn't getting adequate service - after the shit he's got from you people after leaving, it's not a surprise if he's a little less respectful after the Liverpool fans have turned on him.
El_indian-
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Cool story bro (to Torres)
lvrpl4life-
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The article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1370938/Fernando-Torres-warns-Cesc-Fabregas-proposed-summer-switch-Barcelona.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
And Torres admitted: 'Everyone has their own story but from what I've read Cesc is grateful to [Arsene] Wenger and Arsenal. But if you leave, you have to get wet. In the end, when you leave, you're alone. Football is very hypocritical in this regard.'
However, Torres insists his international team-mate should not let the fact he is idolised at the Emirates stand in his way of a move to the Nou Camp.
'You have to give yourself the chance to make the step,' said the 27-year-old - who is yet to score for Chelsea since his £50million switch.
'If you are lucky, then your club will help you, this is what happened at Atletico Madrid [when I left for Liverpool]. I knew people at Atletico and had good personal relations. But at Liverpool there were problems.
'Javier Mascherano did many good things for Liverpool but they did not treat him well when he left.
'It is a complicated situation when you leave a club but footballers always want to move forward, chase what he believes is better, because we only have eight or 10 good years.'
And Torres admitted: 'Everyone has their own story but from what I've read Cesc is grateful to [Arsene] Wenger and Arsenal. But if you leave, you have to get wet. In the end, when you leave, you're alone. Football is very hypocritical in this regard.'
However, Torres insists his international team-mate should not let the fact he is idolised at the Emirates stand in his way of a move to the Nou Camp.
'You have to give yourself the chance to make the step,' said the 27-year-old - who is yet to score for Chelsea since his £50million switch.
'If you are lucky, then your club will help you, this is what happened at Atletico Madrid [when I left for Liverpool]. I knew people at Atletico and had good personal relations. But at Liverpool there were problems.
'Javier Mascherano did many good things for Liverpool but they did not treat him well when he left.
'It is a complicated situation when you leave a club but footballers always want to move forward, chase what he believes is better, because we only have eight or 10 good years.'
Sean-
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Seriously, is that all he said?
Talking about blowing something out of bloody proportion
Talking about blowing something out of bloody proportion
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:In Torres' defence, Liverpool fans have been very ungrateful towards him. He did squander away 3 years of his career at that dump, a dump he only moved to, lets not forget, because he wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave, but Liverpool fans don't appreciate that.
After thinking about it again, I realised he's been pretty reserved in what he's said about the team and the fans who lied to him.
'You'll Never Walk Alone'.
Burned his shirt one fukin fan i think that was. And a dump of a place that your fukin team used once as a League ground cause you fukin basterds were banned from Old Trafford and a Dump of a Place your fukin Famous Matt Busby played at for 4 Season's. I dont blame Torres for wanting to go to play Champion's League Football and hopefully challenge for a Tilte its just the way it happened and after all he said about how he loved Liverpool and its supporters and it was not the supporters that were at Fault for what was going on at the Club with our great American friends Hicks and Gillett.
And i always said if Torres left on without making a cunt out of Liverpool i would never say a thing about him cause for season's we had two Match winners him and Gerrard and the team and Squad was not good enough to win things although we had a few other good players but not enough Match winners. I always said since he moved we did get 50 million and made what 25 million or so on him, But even if he was so fuckin frustrated with Injuries and all the shit that was going on at Liverpool he looked like he was not fuckin interested and it started to show with his Work Rate and attitude on the park.
And yes i no myself the Liverpool team he was playing in was well lets say not very good especially last season and this and he was struggling with Injuries but all i wanted was for him to keep showing what he had said about Liverpool and its fans. Maybe it was sheer frustration with him but he seemed to have gave up and you no at any club when that happens people will not be happy.
Have you ever been to Anfield? I was being a bit too kind when I called it a dump, it's not that nice. We did once have to use it, that's true, but if Mr. Hilton goes and stays in a shitty B & B in Swansea because he's been banned from his own hotels, it doesn't make the shitty B & B a 5 star hotel.
I've never really understood what this phrase 'match-winners' means, but immediately before Torres left, Liverpool had plenty of decent attackers, Kuyt, Suarez, Gerrard, that massive signing Liverpool fans were really happy about (Joe Cole), Raul Meireles and the most expensive signing by any British club in history at the time.
He wasn't lying about caring about Liverpool, he just wasn't fully fit and he wasn't getting adequate service - after the shit he's got from you people after leaving, it's not a surprise if he's a little less respectful after the Liverpool fans have turned on him.
Yes i have been to Anfield and hopefully will be going again very soon. But why is it you seem like a complete and utter Wanker on here and also on the Fifa forums you dont have much good to say about Liverpool football club, although its been one of the most famous and succesfull clubs in the World of Club Football in its time. Why do you seem to like mostly posting things against Liverpool more than posting things about the Famous Fukin Manchester.United.
You no that Famous big glamour club that once won 3 FA Cups from 69 to 89 yet they still got all the media sucking up there arses as if they were this Big Glamour Club at that time and you lot have a go at Liverpool talking about there History. Back then Glamour club my arse 3 FA Cups in fukin 20 years really glamouries at least back in the 50,s and 60,s they won things and over the past 20 years they have had the right to be called the Big Glamour club again but you see i respect that and what they have done, you like to make it out Liverpool were not really that good even after what they won in the 70,s and 80,s.
But thats it Sir Manchester.United and everything they do is so much better according to you and Liverpool football club have never been anything that special.
ResurrectionRooney-
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Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:In Torres' defence, Liverpool fans have been very ungrateful towards him. He did squander away 3 years of his career at that dump, a dump he only moved to, lets not forget, because he wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave, but Liverpool fans don't appreciate that.
After thinking about it again, I realised he's been pretty reserved in what he's said about the team and the fans who lied to him.
'You'll Never Walk Alone'.
Burned his shirt one fukin fan i think that was. And a dump of a place that your fukin team used once as a League ground cause you fukin basterds were banned from Old Trafford and a Dump of a Place your fukin Famous Matt Busby played at for 4 Season's. I dont blame Torres for wanting to go to play Champion's League Football and hopefully challenge for a Tilte its just the way it happened and after all he said about how he loved Liverpool and its supporters and it was not the supporters that were at Fault for what was going on at the Club with our great American friends Hicks and Gillett.
And i always said if Torres left on without making a cunt out of Liverpool i would never say a thing about him cause for season's we had two Match winners him and Gerrard and the team and Squad was not good enough to win things although we had a few other good players but not enough Match winners. I always said since he moved we did get 50 million and made what 25 million or so on him, But even if he was so fuckin frustrated with Injuries and all the shit that was going on at Liverpool he looked like he was not fuckin interested and it started to show with his Work Rate and attitude on the park.
And yes i no myself the Liverpool team he was playing in was well lets say not very good especially last season and this and he was struggling with Injuries but all i wanted was for him to keep showing what he had said about Liverpool and its fans. Maybe it was sheer frustration with him but he seemed to have gave up and you no at any club when that happens people will not be happy.
Have you ever been to Anfield? I was being a bit too kind when I called it a dump, it's not that nice. We did once have to use it, that's true, but if Mr. Hilton goes and stays in a shitty B & B in Swansea because he's been banned from his own hotels, it doesn't make the shitty B & B a 5 star hotel.
I've never really understood what this phrase 'match-winners' means, but immediately before Torres left, Liverpool had plenty of decent attackers, Kuyt, Suarez, Gerrard, that massive signing Liverpool fans were really happy about (Joe Cole), Raul Meireles and the most expensive signing by any British club in history at the time.
He wasn't lying about caring about Liverpool, he just wasn't fully fit and he wasn't getting adequate service - after the shit he's got from you people after leaving, it's not a surprise if he's a little less respectful after the Liverpool fans have turned on him.
Yes i have been to Anfield and hopefully will be going again very soon. But why is it you seem like a complete and utter Wanker on here and also on the Fifa forums you dont have much good to say about Liverpool football club, although its been one of the most famous and succesfull clubs in the World of Club Football in its time. Why do you seem to like mostly posting things against Liverpool more than posting things about the Famous Fukin Manchester.United.
You no that Famous big glamour club that once won 3 FA Cups from 69 to 89 yet they still got all the media sucking up there arses as if they were this Big Glamour Club at that time and you lot have a go at Liverpool talking about there History. Back then Glamour club my arse 3 FA Cups in fukin 20 years really glamouries at least back in the 50,s and 60,s they won things and over the past 20 years they have had the right to be called the Big Glamour club again but you see i respect that and what they have done, you like to make it out Liverpool were not really that good even after what they won in the 70,s and 80,s.
But thats it Sir Manchester.United and everything they do is so much better according to you and Liverpool football club have never been anything that special.
Mustangt125-
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A collin farrell gif? Wow that's gay he's a shit actor
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its true that we were plagued with problems. but now that he's left, things are already picking up.
will take a while yet to restore a team ethic not suited to one striker but the plummet has been reversed with his exit, thank fúck.
will take a while yet to restore a team ethic not suited to one striker but the plummet has been reversed with his exit, thank fúck.
Sean-
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He was decent in In Bruge I thought
Cornholio-
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Fernandlol Tlolrres.
In Bruge is brilliant.
"You're an inanimate fucking object"
In Bruge is brilliant.
"You're an inanimate fucking object"
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:In Torres' defence, Liverpool fans have been very ungrateful towards him. He did squander away 3 years of his career at that dump, a dump he only moved to, lets not forget, because he wanted to win trophies. Since then, despite banging on every season 'We're gonna win this, we're gonna win that', Liverpool have won fuck all, while the team he left to sign for them in the first place has gone on to win 2 pieces of European Silverware.
He tried his best to help Liverpool, just like he did Atletico, but despite trying his utmost, he was unable to lead them to a Cup or League title because of the dross that surrounded him. He moved on to a team with a bit of ambition, and Liverpool fans had the audacity to go out and burn his shirt, he got them £50m and they basically spat in his face, urinated all over him and left him to die. He even waited until Suarez had been signed before making it clear he wanted to leave, but Liverpool fans don't appreciate that.
After thinking about it again, I realised he's been pretty reserved in what he's said about the team and the fans who lied to him.
'You'll Never Walk Alone'.
Burned his shirt one fukin fan i think that was. And a dump of a place that your fukin team used once as a League ground cause you fukin basterds were banned from Old Trafford and a Dump of a Place your fukin Famous Matt Busby played at for 4 Season's. I dont blame Torres for wanting to go to play Champion's League Football and hopefully challenge for a Tilte its just the way it happened and after all he said about how he loved Liverpool and its supporters and it was not the supporters that were at Fault for what was going on at the Club with our great American friends Hicks and Gillett.
And i always said if Torres left on without making a cunt out of Liverpool i would never say a thing about him cause for season's we had two Match winners him and Gerrard and the team and Squad was not good enough to win things although we had a few other good players but not enough Match winners. I always said since he moved we did get 50 million and made what 25 million or so on him, But even if he was so fuckin frustrated with Injuries and all the shit that was going on at Liverpool he looked like he was not fuckin interested and it started to show with his Work Rate and attitude on the park.
And yes i no myself the Liverpool team he was playing in was well lets say not very good especially last season and this and he was struggling with Injuries but all i wanted was for him to keep showing what he had said about Liverpool and its fans. Maybe it was sheer frustration with him but he seemed to have gave up and you no at any club when that happens people will not be happy.
Have you ever been to Anfield? I was being a bit too kind when I called it a dump, it's not that nice. We did once have to use it, that's true, but if Mr. Hilton goes and stays in a shitty B & B in Swansea because he's been banned from his own hotels, it doesn't make the shitty B & B a 5 star hotel.
I've never really understood what this phrase 'match-winners' means, but immediately before Torres left, Liverpool had plenty of decent attackers, Kuyt, Suarez, Gerrard, that massive signing Liverpool fans were really happy about (Joe Cole), Raul Meireles and the most expensive signing by any British club in history at the time.
He wasn't lying about caring about Liverpool, he just wasn't fully fit and he wasn't getting adequate service - after the shit he's got from you people after leaving, it's not a surprise if he's a little less respectful after the Liverpool fans have turned on him.
Yes i have been to Anfield and hopefully will be going again very soon. But why is it you seem like a complete and utter Wanker on here and also on the Fifa forums you dont have much good to say about Liverpool football club, although its been one of the most famous and succesfull clubs in the World of Club Football in its time. Why do you seem to like mostly posting things against Liverpool more than posting things about the Famous Fukin Manchester.United.
You no that Famous big glamour club that once won 3 FA Cups from 69 to 89 yet they still got all the media sucking up there arses as if they were this Big Glamour Club at that time and you lot have a go at Liverpool talking about there History. Back then Glamour club my arse 3 FA Cups in fukin 20 years really glamouries at least back in the 50,s and 60,s they won things and over the past 20 years they have had the right to be called the Big Glamour club again but you see i respect that and what they have done, you like to make it out Liverpool were not really that good even after what they won in the 70,s and 80,s.
But thats it Sir Manchester.United and everything they do is so much better according to you and Liverpool football club have never been anything that special.
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El_indian-
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Dan wrote:Chelsea striker Fernando Torres has had another dig at Liverpool.
On the day former Reds teammates Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher said they felt let down by Torres leaving, the Spanish striker has taken a swipe back at his old club.
He told Sport: "If you are lucky enough that a club has helped you, you should be very grateful to them, this is what happened to me at Atletico.
"I knew people and had good personal relationships, but at Liverpool it was all problems."
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Hmmm. What's with the constant talk of the club Nando?
Inb4 luke has a hissy fit..
Ok I just randomly came across the article on Soccernet..
First of all he didn't say 'it was all problems', he said 'there were problems'...big difference IMO.
I'm sure there were problems - we've been fucking shite for the past 2 seasons + we've just been through Hicks/Gillett & Hodgson - It was a terrible time (the atmosphere at the club must have been miserable), and a team that isn't winning obviously ain't happy. I'm sure he wouldn't have one bad thing to say about his first two years when we were doing well.
Also If he's talking shit about us, let him, he obviously still attached to the Club, not exactly like he's forgotten about us...
Scouser_Dave-
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Enjoying reading his comments to be honest. Makes me feel better that we got rid of him. He's clearly not happy that we've moving on though.
