Alex Song is the Best midfielder in the Premier league...

No. Essien > Song.

Mikel is probably slightly worse and I hate saying that

Luxz0rz wrote:

dena wrote:Ramieres is better.

Poulsen > Ramieres

Ouch

Oh yeah.. Ramires>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poulsen

Whenever I've seen Ramieres he looks dire. He's like Walcott but a box to box midfielder...and not as fast and not nearly as effective. So lacking in everything you expect from a Brazilian....yet even when it comes to his strengths he is hit and miss. Might show a sign of good play and then go and look wank 2 seconds later.

If Ramires is worth £18m then Bent is worth double that.

Give Ramieres time.

Ramires doesnt suit the PL. Hes too gimpy. Better off in Spain or back in Portugal IMO

This is just my opinion, but I think Wenger was trying to use the first half of the season to develop Song's offensive skills. Wenger said that Song's fitness improved this year, so I feel he tried to use this improved fitness to take his game to the next level.

His midfield partner was going to be either Diaby or Wilshere, and it is obvious that the two of them spent much of the first half playing more defensively. Due to Diaby's injuries Jack played more, and his defensive game improved greatly.

In the last couple of games, Song has stayed back more and Jack has attacked more, and I think these are the natural roles. Yet they are both still young and needed to develop their all around games.

The first half of the season for Song and Jack appeared to be an exercise to make both of them more complete players.

Ramires does suit the PL. another 2 months max and he will be in beast mode

The-Reporter wrote:This is just my opinion, but I think Wenger was trying to use the first half of the season to develop Song's offensive skills. Wenger said that Song's fitness improved this year, so I feel he tried to use this improved fitness to take his game to the next level.

His midfield partner was going to be either Diaby or Wilshere, and it is obvious that the two of them spent much of the first half playing more defensively. Due to Diaby's injuries Jack played more, and his defensive game improved greatly.

In the last couple of games, Song has stayed back more and Jack has attacked more, and I think these are the natural roles. Yet they are both still young and needed to develop their all around games.

The first half of the season for Song and Jack appeared to be an exercise to make both of them more complete players.

Very important factor. Im not sure which song i prefer last years or this years

This year because of his cool beard hair combo

I prefer his normal black hair

The-Reporter wrote:This is just my opinion, but I think Wenger was trying to use the first half of the season to develop Song's offensive skills. Wenger said that Song's fitness improved this year, so I feel he tried to use this improved fitness to take his game to the next level.

His midfield partner was going to be either Diaby or Wilshere, and it is obvious that the two of them spent much of the first half playing more defensively. Due to Diaby's injuries Jack played more, and his defensive game improved greatly.

In the last couple of games, Song has stayed back more and Jack has attacked more, and I think these are the natural roles. Yet they are both still young and needed to develop their all around games.

The first half of the season for Song and Jack appeared to be an exercise to make both of them more complete players.

I tried to explain this before in the Arsenal thread, but didn't really know how to word it.

I'd say Song is certainly one of the best defensive midfielders in the world for his age, he's even younger than Ramires although both 23.

I think he probably is the best DM now that Mascherano's gone.

Mal sort out the titles cant even write a quote in there properly

Luxz0rz wrote:Whenever I've seen Ramieres he looks dire. He's like Walcott but a box to box midfielder...and not as fast and not nearly as effective. So lacking in everything you expect from a Brazilian....yet even when it comes to his strengths he is hit and miss. Might show a sign of good play and then go and look wank 2 seconds later.

If Ramires is worth £18m then Bent is worth double that.

Like Walcott? Walcott the player with 10 goals and 5 assists. He was out for 2 months as well.




I can't sort out shit. I'm on my phone with no Internet at home.

Having no internet is a killer, and walcott has 10 goals didnt realise hes scored so many

Considering he has missed soo many months too!

He's a Henry in the making!

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Considering he has missed soo many months too!

He's a Henry in the making!

Coming in from that right flank, van persie has been key in that i see what you mean about suarez now

IMO De Jong is the best purely defensive midfielder in the league, possibly world

Ask him to go out of his own half and he's dire though.

Zzonked wrote:IMO De Jong is the best purely defensive midfielder in the league, possibly world

Ask him to go out of his own half and he's dire though.

Definately not, Masch does what he does only better(i.e much cleaner in the tackle)

Jamie wrote:

Zzonked wrote:IMO De Jong is the best purely defensive midfielder in the league, possibly world

Ask him to go out of his own half and he's dire though.

Definately not, Masch does what he does only better(i.e much cleaner in the tackle)

Disagree, DJ has only ever had 1 red card and I bet Masch has had more than that in one season, there's no way he's cleaner in the tackle.

I'm also pretty sure DJ has never hit the yellow cards limit for us.

The idea that he's a dirty player is a myth perpetuated by two unfortunate tackles and one karate kick (which was admittedly bad). However it's a good myth to have, loads of players shit it when he goes in since the world cup and the injury to Ben Arfa.

Zzonked wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Zzonked wrote:IMO De Jong is the best purely defensive midfielder in the league, possibly world

Ask him to go out of his own half and he's dire though.

Definately not, Masch does what he does only better(i.e much cleaner in the tackle)

Disagree, DJ has only ever had 1 red card and I bet Masch has had more than that in one season, there's no way he's cleaner in the tackle.

What the fuck does that prove, he broke ben arfas leg and only got booked.

Theeeooo wrote:

Zzonked wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Zzonked wrote:IMO De Jong is the best purely defensive midfielder in the league, possibly world

Ask him to go out of his own half and he's dire though.

Definately not, Masch does what he does only better(i.e much cleaner in the tackle)

Disagree, DJ has only ever had 1 red card and I bet Masch has had more than that in one season, there's no way he's cleaner in the tackle.

What the fuck does that prove, he broke ben arfas leg and only got booked.

I edited my post after, not that it matters.

What does it prove? Erm well I guess it proves he's either very lucky or is actually a good tackler. Take your pick.

I choose Lucky then. Both are aggressive tacklers, but Mascherano is the cleaner of the two imo.

Both, he is a good tackler but amount of scum tackles he makes is a joke, and as far as i remember mascherano is CLEAN in his tackles

Jamie wrote:I choose Lucky then. Both are aggressive tacklers, but Mascherano is the cleaner of the two imo.

Fair enough that's your opinion, but I'm just saying DJ has a much better disciplinary record and it's hard to blame all of it on luck.


I've said it a lot, but Nige slides in like 3-5 times a game and he very very rarely comes out having injured someone or with a booking. Fair enough he's made a few bad tackles and was lucky not to get sent off in the WC, but I've seen Masch do worse.

Theeeooo wrote:Both, he is a good tackler but amount of scum tackles he makes is a joke, and as far as i remember mascherano is CLEAN in his tackles

Scum tackles? Are you saying he tries to injure people?

Mascherano's tackling is very good.

He is quite dirty as well though.

So is De Jong.

IMO I think De Rossi is better than Mascherano.