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    Arsenal V Man City

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    Who will win?

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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:50 am

    AriseForLife wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:I'm talking about them because it seems these days everyone has to develop by the time they're 20 or 21 or they're a flop. Neutral

    Irrelevant to our conversation. I never said nor thought that Theo was a flop.
    So you wanted a young player with great potential to be sold despite you not thinking he was a flop.

    Oh dear.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:54 am

    I was reading various comments on the game and a lot of people pointed out that it is reasonable to park the bus against the top 4 but hammer easier teams to win the title. However if you're unable to beat hard opponents then how will they even try to progress in europe which is clearly what they want to win?

    Poor play that a £300m grinded out
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:57 am

    Tom wrote:I was reading various comments on the game and a lot of people pointed out that it is reasonable to park the bus against the top 4 but hammer easier teams to win the title. However if you're unable to beat hard opponents then how will they even try to progress in europe which is clearly what they want to win?

    Poor play that a £300m grinded out
    The Champions League is not their worry atm, and Arsenal are one of the best teams at moving the ball.

    They beat Chelsea 1-0, and that was before they went into meltdown.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:03 am

    Because of an extremely good Tevez goal and that was about it, the champions league is what they want to qualify and eventually try to win. That's next year for them, they can't possibly think of bringing anyone else unless they're extremely good even offering champions league football and huge wages.

    It just seems like a circle which unless they change will come back and hit them in the face
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:58 am

    Tom wrote:I was reading various comments on the game and a lot of people pointed out that it is reasonable to park the bus against the top 4 but hammer easier teams to win the title. However if you're unable to beat hard opponents then how will they even try to progress in europe which is clearly what they want to win?

    Poor play that a £300m grinded out

    When we play like that we'll draw more games than win and lose, if we draw against the best teams away then we have every chance of progressing in the second leg when we play at home. We've only played like that three times this season, United, Chelsea and Arsenal. As I recall, no one was complaining when we did it to Chelsea and won 1-0.
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    Post by Mal Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:02 am

    Mancini as Man City manager: 3 games vs Arsenal, 2 games vs Man Utd and 2 games vs The Spuds. City have scored an amazing......














    Zero goals. Neutral
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:05 am

    And 2nd place Awesome Face
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    Post by arsenalap11 Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:21 am

    Zzonked wrote:And 2nd place Arsenal V Man City - Page 10 781738

    Seeing as we have a game in hand it isn't reallly 2nd place is it...

    Anyway, I think City will finish 4th with Chelsea 3rd and either Arsenal or United winning it. Spurs 5th, and then everyone else will be way behind.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:22 am

    If Dzeko does well Man City could have two strikers who are scoring, then they'd be even more of contenders, might happen. Neutral
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    Post by blackskar Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:22 am

    And saying it's not 2nd because we have a game in hand is abit silly. It's not set in stone we'll win that game shifty
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    Post by blackskar Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:23 am

    kyro7 wrote:If Dzeko does well Man City could have two strikers who are scoring, then they'd be even more of contenders, might happen. Neutral

    Mancini playing 2 good strikers? Never Mischief
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:23 am

    blackskar wrote:And saying it's not 2nd because we have a game in hand is abit silly. It's not set in stone we'll win that game shifty
    Stoke at home, you'll definitely win that.

    But it is silly because it doesn't matter, as of now City are second and who knows if you'll slip up in places they wont, anything can happen.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:23 am

    blackskar wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:If Dzeko does well Man City could have two strikers who are scoring, then they'd be even more of contenders, might happen. Neutral

    Mancini playing 2 good strikers? Never Mischief
    Hopefully he doesn't.

    Reckon if I was in charge of City I could put a better team out tbh.
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    Post by blackskar Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:24 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    blackskar wrote:And saying it's not 2nd because we have a game in hand is abit silly. It's not set in stone we'll win that game shifty
    Stoke at home, you'll definitely win that.

    But it is silly because it doesn't matter, as of now City are second and who knows if you'll slip up in places they wont, anything can happen.

    You never know in football. bet most people here never thought we'd lose to Newcastle/WBA at home, but we did -_-
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:25 am

    blackskar wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    blackskar wrote:And saying it's not 2nd because we have a game in hand is abit silly. It's not set in stone we'll win that game shifty
    Stoke at home, you'll definitely win that.

    But it is silly because it doesn't matter, as of now City are second and who knows if you'll slip up in places they wont, anything can happen.

    You never know in football. bet most people here never thought we'd lose to Newcastle/WBA at home, but we did -_-
    To be fair both were in top form, and you didn't have a team like you've got it now, you've got a solid line up. Crying or Very sad
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    Post by blackskar Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:26 am

    kyro7 wrote:
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    kyro7 wrote:If Dzeko does well Man City could have two strikers who are scoring, then they'd be even more of contenders, might happen. Neutral

    Mancini playing 2 good strikers? Never Mischief
    Hopefully he doesn't.

    Reckon if I was in charge of City I could put a better team out tbh.

    In some cases it isn't even the team he puts out, but the way he makes them play, the team last night could have given us a run for our money easily, yet he decided for some random reason to just park the bus. Blows your mind.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:29 am

    I know but, when he was a fully fit team he puts out Barry De Jong and Toure, I know Toure has been pretty good advanced recently but I reckon if he played something more like this:

    -Tevez-
    Balotelli-Silva-Johnson
    Toure-DeJong

    Toure could still get forward and De Jong would be protecting, could even have Silva a bit deeper and Silva and Toure CM's with De Jong DM, but now they have Dzeko they have to find a way to fit in another striker.. they have to. Neutral


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    Post by blackskar Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:30 am

    No Barry!! Surprised


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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:30 am

    Barry is a fucking shitecunt tbh. Laughing
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:37 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Tom wrote:I was reading various comments on the game and a lot of people pointed out that it is reasonable to park the bus against the top 4 but hammer easier teams to win the title. However if you're unable to beat hard opponents then how will they even try to progress in europe which is clearly what they want to win?

    Poor play that a £300m grinded out

    When we play like that we'll draw more games than win and lose, if we draw against the best teams away then we have every chance of progressing in the second leg when we play at home. We've only played like that three times this season, United, Chelsea and Arsenal. As I recall, no one was complaining when we did it to Chelsea and won 1-0.

    No you don't because you won't do anything at home except for relying on Tevez for goals just like you do away. Surprise surprise, did u even read what i pointed up on? (In Bold). Yeah because that win was fucking lucky.

    You're trying to back up City as this forums only supporter which is great but you're not providing good arguments

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    Post by Marvin Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:37 am

    Leaving De Jong on his own, even for a brief moment is very risky. He's a hacker, would trust Barry to do a better job tbh.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:40 am

    coolmarvin wrote:Leaving De Jong on his own, even for a brief moment is very risky. He's a hacker, would trust Barry to do a better job tbh.
    I hate Barry. Neutral Laughing

    Wouldn't be on his own, Yaya would be like a box to box midfielder.
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:57 am

    coolmarvin wrote:Leaving De Jong on his own, even for a brief moment is very risky. He's a hacker, would trust Barry to do a better job tbh.

    De Jong is the best tackler in the PL. Despite playing his entire career in his own half and only ever making sliding tackles he's only ever been sent off once (never in England) and it's pretty rare that he gets a yellow. Most of the yellows he does get are 'taking one for the team'. Watch him play as much as I have and you'd agree.
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:00 am

    Tom wrote:
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    Tom wrote:I was reading various comments on the game and a lot of people pointed out that it is reasonable to park the bus against the top 4 but hammer easier teams to win the title. However if you're unable to beat hard opponents then how will they even try to progress in europe which is clearly what they want to win?

    Poor play that a £300m grinded out

    When we play like that we'll draw more games than win and lose, if we draw against the best teams away then we have every chance of progressing in the second leg when we play at home. We've only played like that three times this season, United, Chelsea and Arsenal. As I recall, no one was complaining when we did it to Chelsea and won 1-0.

    No you don't because you won't do anything at home except for relying on Tevez for goals just like you do away. Surprise surprise, did u even read what i pointed up on? (In Bold). Yeah because that win was fucking lucky.

    You're trying to back up City as this forums only supporter which is great but you're not providing good arguments


    Why exactly do I need arguments to hypothetical issues with our hypothetical European tactics? Even if we don't do well in the CL if we get in, would I particularly mind? No not really, I would rather we won anything, domestic would satisfy me equally as a European trophy would.

    We beat Villa 4-0 without Tev, so we can score without him. Mancini has won things before, he clearly knows how. Oh and even if the Chelsea win was lucky, my point was no one complains when it comes off.
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    Post by SBSP Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:41 pm

    Zzonked wrote:
    coolmarvin wrote:Leaving De Jong on his own, even for a brief moment is very risky. He's a hacker, would trust Barry to do a better job tbh.

    De Jong is the best tackler in the PL. Despite playing his entire career in his own half and only ever making sliding tackles he's only ever been sent off once (never in England) and it's pretty rare that he gets a yellow. Most of the yellows he does get are 'taking one for the team'. Watch him play as much as I have and you'd agree.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:44 pm

    Zzonked wrote:
    Tom wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    Tom wrote:I was reading various comments on the game and a lot of people pointed out that it is reasonable to park the bus against the top 4 but hammer easier teams to win the title. However if you're unable to beat hard opponents then how will they even try to progress in europe which is clearly what they want to win?

    Poor play that a £300m grinded out

    When we play like that we'll draw more games than win and lose, if we draw against the best teams away then we have every chance of progressing in the second leg when we play at home. We've only played like that three times this season, United, Chelsea and Arsenal. As I recall, no one was complaining when we did it to Chelsea and won 1-0.

    No you don't because you won't do anything at home except for relying on Tevez for goals just like you do away. Surprise surprise, did u even read what i pointed up on? (In Bold). Yeah because that win was fucking lucky.

    You're trying to back up City as this forums only supporter which is great but you're not providing good arguments


    Why exactly do I need arguments to hypothetical issues with our hypothetical European tactics? Even if we don't do well in the CL if we get in, would I particularly mind? No not really, I would rather we won anything, domestic would satisfy me equally as a European trophy would.

    We beat Villa 4-0 without Tev, so we can score without him. Mancini has won things before, he clearly knows how. Oh and even if the Chelsea win was lucky, my point was no one complains when it comes off.

    • You what?
    • It doesn't matter what you want it matters what the owners want and the ambition is to eventually win the champions league which is arguably much more difficult then a domestic trophy
    • 2 penaltys and one game somehow decides that you're a team that can score without tevez?
    • Mancini is a good manager, no ones denying that but he's using cowardly tactics against teams he has no intention of beating in his own league. He's going to get him crushed in europe
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    Post by dena Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:21 pm

    arsenalap11 wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:And 2nd place Arsenal V Man City - Page 10 781738

    Seeing as we have a game in hand it isn't reallly 2nd place is it...

    Anyway, I think City will finish 4th with Chelsea 3rd and either Arsenal or United winning it. Spurs 5th, and then everyone else will be way behind.

    It is second place because... it's second place . Having a game in hand doesn't mean much, especially since there is always a chance to drop points, in Arsenal's case that chance is probably higher shifty Neutral
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    Post by Zzonked Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:30 am

    Tom wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    Tom wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    Tom wrote:I was reading various comments on the game and a lot of people pointed out that it is reasonable to park the bus against the top 4 but hammer easier teams to win the title. However if you're unable to beat hard opponents then how will they even try to progress in europe which is clearly what they want to win?

    Poor play that a £300m grinded out

    When we play like that we'll draw more games than win and lose, if we draw against the best teams away then we have every chance of progressing in the second leg when we play at home. We've only played like that three times this season, United, Chelsea and Arsenal. As I recall, no one was complaining when we did it to Chelsea and won 1-0.

    No you don't because you won't do anything at home except for relying on Tevez for goals just like you do away. Surprise surprise, did u even read what i pointed up on? (In Bold). Yeah because that win was fucking lucky.

    You're trying to back up City as this forums only supporter which is great but you're not providing good arguments


    Why exactly do I need arguments to hypothetical issues with our hypothetical European tactics? Even if we don't do well in the CL if we get in, would I particularly mind? No not really, I would rather we won anything, domestic would satisfy me equally as a European trophy would.

    We beat Villa 4-0 without Tev, so we can score without him. Mancini has won things before, he clearly knows how. Oh and even if the Chelsea win was lucky, my point was no one complains when it comes off.

    • You what?
    • It doesn't matter what you want it matters what the owners want and the ambition is to eventually win the champions league which is arguably much more difficult then a domestic trophy
    • 2 penaltys and one game somehow decides that you're a team that can score without tevez?
    • Mancini is a good manager, no ones denying that but he's using cowardly tactics against teams he has no intention of beating in his own league. He's going to get him crushed in europe

    Hypothetical means it's not real, you're inventing a scenario then inventing a problem which we'll have in this scenario.

    Penalties still count as goals as far as I'm aware. They still have to be earned.

    Defense is just as much a part of football as attack, we aren't going to lose many games playing so defensively so why is that a bad idea? Defend away from home, then try and score at home.

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