Arsenal V Man City

kyro7 wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Sagna did not have every right to be pissed, what the fuck are you on about Arise?

He done something stupid, and it shouldn't have happened.

Firstly you have no idea what was being said between the two players after Sagna tripped. Secondly when they were face to face Sagna then gets pushed. On more than one occasion Bakary was brought to the ground unnecessarily, so there comes a point when someone just has enough and lets loose.

So again I say, he had every right to be pissed. What the fuck are you on about Kyro?

You fucking moron, you said he had every right to be pissed based on something that could have been said but you have no idea?

He pushed him away when Sagna was sticking his forehead into him, then they were separated but Sagna went in for more, what a cunt.

Like i said, he is such a moron, will twist words to suit and back up what he is saying.

kyro7 wrote:You fucking moron, you said he had every right to be pissed based on something that could have been said but you have no idea?

He pushed him away when Sagna was sticking his forehead into him, then they were separated but Sagna went in for more, what a cunt.

And you have no fucking idea either so what exactly is your point? If a player reacts one way or another they have the right to do as they please and whether you agree with that statement or not is completely irrelevant.

Walcot before this season hasn't impressed me. I wouldn't call for him being sold, but he didn't impress me.

But Walcott this season has by far outdone my expectations, I think he is very good now.

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:
You say players should be out for no reason then when they are playing well suck their cocks.

What the hell are you talking about?

To be honest, I can't believe you were calling for Walcott to be sold.

I don't overrate Theo like so many other Arsenal supporters. Theo's form last season compared to this season is night and day.

He's always had potential, he hasn't come through with it but wanting him to be sold = stupid imo.

FootyFanaticLFC wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Sagna did not have every right to be pissed, what the fuck are you on about Arise?

He done something stupid, and it shouldn't have happened.

Firstly you have no idea what was being said between the two players after Sagna tripped. Secondly when they were face to face Sagna then gets pushed. On more than one occasion Bakary was brought to the ground unnecessarily, so there comes a point when someone just has enough and lets loose.

So again I say, he had every right to be pissed. What the fuck are you on about Kyro?

You fucking moron, you said he had every right to be pissed based on something that could have been said but you have no idea?

He pushed him away when Sagna was sticking his forehead into him, then they were separated but Sagna went in for more, what a cunt.

Like i said, he is such a moron, will twist words to suit and back up what he is saying.

How exactly am I twisting words dipshit?

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:You fucking moron, you said he had every right to be pissed based on something that could have been said but you have no idea?

He pushed him away when Sagna was sticking his forehead into him, then they were separated but Sagna went in for more, what a cunt.

And you have no fucking idea either so what exactly is your point? If a player reacts one way or another they have the right to do as they please and whether you agree with that statement or not is completely irrelevant.

You're the one that said Sagna had every right to do it, and you're the one that brought up something might have been said, oh dear..

You're a thick cunt tbh.

Anyway, for Polska input on the incident;

Sagna should've gotten a red card for what he did, and Zabaleta a yellow for purely the tackle alone.

kyro7 wrote:He's always had potential, he hasn't come through with it but wanting him to be sold = stupid imo.

So you're saying a player should be kept based solely on his potential even if he isn't proving it? In other words just taking up a shirt number and a paycheck?

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:He's always had potential, he hasn't come through with it but wanting him to be sold = stupid imo.

So you're saying a player should be kept based solely on his potential even if he isn't proving it? In other words just taking up a shirt number and a paycheck?

So is that how it is now?

Give up on a player at 20 years old, not everyone develops like Messi and Ronaldo.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Anyway, for Polska input on the incident;

Sagna should've gotten a red card for what he did, and Zabaleta a yellow for purely the tackle alone.

Yellow for the tackle alone?

Pfft.

Sagna is arguably the best RB in the Prem...good player imo and perfect for Arsenal

kyro7 wrote:You're the one that said Sagna had every right to do it, and you're the one that brought up something might have been said, oh dear..

You're a thick cunt tbh.

Yeah as a counter to you saying someone doesn't have the right to react with anger.

If I'm a thick cunt then so are you because you are failing to grasp something that should be relatively easy to comprehend.

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:You're the one that said Sagna had every right to do it, and you're the one that brought up something might have been said, oh dear..

You're a thick cunt tbh.

Yeah as a counter to you saying someone doesn't have the right to react with anger.

If I'm a thick cunt then so are you because you are failing to grasp something that should be relatively easy to comprehend.

You seem to say "you are failing to grasp something that should be relatively easy to comprehend." quite a lot.

I don't think it's because everyone else is thick, I think it's because you come out with bullshit.

kyro7 wrote:So is that how it is now?

Give up on a player at 20 years old, not everyone develops like Messi and Ronaldo.

Did anyone say anything about Messi or Cristiano? No.

You still didn't answer my question.

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:
You say players should be out for no reason then when they are playing well suck their cocks.

What the hell are you talking about?

To be honest, I can't believe you were calling for Walcott to be sold.

I don't overrate Theo like so many other Arsenal supporters. Theo's form last season compared to this season is night and day.

Fact is you're football knowledge is as big as Shaun Wright-Philips cock. Go back from the cage you escaped from.

You say Sagna had every right to be angry but video evidence was inconclusive as we dont know what Zab said/didnt say. Then you go accusing him of jumping the gun as he doesnt know what Zabaleta might of said....

lol, ignorant people remain ignorant.

kyro7 wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:You're the one that said Sagna had every right to do it, and you're the one that brought up something might have been said, oh dear..

You're a thick cunt tbh.

Yeah as a counter to you saying someone doesn't have the right to react with anger.

If I'm a thick cunt then so are you because you are failing to grasp something that should be relatively easy to comprehend.

You seem to say "you are failing to grasp something that should be relatively easy to comprehend." quite a lot.

I don't think it's because everyone else is thick, I think it's because you come out with bullshit.

I don't give a shit about "everyone else" I am talking to you at this moment. You're calling me thick etc when you say that someone doesn't have the right to react and when I offer an explanation you feel the need to turn this into a pissing content, yet I'm the thick one.

Right.

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:So is that how it is now?

Give up on a player at 20 years old, not everyone develops like Messi and Ronaldo.

Did anyone say anything about Messi or Cristiano? No.

You still didn't answer my question.

I'm talking about them because it seems these days everyone has to develop by the time they're 20 or 21 or they're a flop.

No, but you have to use common sense, it was obvious Walcott could be a danger with some of the things he done, not often enough obviously but he needed time to come good and look at him now.

Everyone was going mad at Walcott but forgetting his age, because he come on the scene as the next big thing as 16, everyone thought that he should be a world beater by 19 which is crazy. Not to mention he has been playing out of position and having to learn how to play there, he's not used to running down the right and having to look up for players, he's meant to be the receiver of that tbh. Not to mention his injuries and he's never really had a full run in the team.
Im glad this season he is shutting all you haters up anyway.
Love him.

AriseForLife wrote:I don't give a shit about "everyone else" I am talking to you at this moment. You're calling me thick etc when you say that someone doesn't have the right to react and when I offer an explanation you feel the need to turn this into a pissing content, yet I'm the thick one.

Right.

Yes, you are the thick one.

All we can sit here and talk about is what we saw with our own eyes, unless something comes out that Zabaleta said something bad to Sagna, he had no right to react like that.. it was over the top and unneeded.

FootyFanaticLFC wrote:You say Sagna had every right to be angry but video evidence was inconclusive as we dont know what Zab said/didnt say. Then you go accusing him of jumping the gun as he doesnt know what Zabaleta might of said....

lol, ignorant people remain ignorant.

Dude you're spouting bullshit. Who did I accuse of jumping the gun?

I simply said he had every right to react the way he did. If you and Kyro don't agree, fine. You're arguing about having the right to react a certain way.

Bravo.

kyro7 wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Anyway, for Polska input on the incident;

Sagna should've gotten a red card for what he did, and Zabaleta a yellow for purely the tackle alone.

Yellow for the tackle alone?

Pfft.

Twas pretty bad, would've been a bad foul edging on yellow had the fight not broke out.

If it is too little for a yellow in your opinion, then ok, add in the fight, and Zabaleta get's yellow.

AriseForLife wrote:

FootyFanaticLFC wrote:You say Sagna had every right to be angry but video evidence was inconclusive as we dont know what Zab said/didnt say. Then you go accusing him of jumping the gun as he doesnt know what Zabaleta might of said....

lol, ignorant people remain ignorant.

Dude you're spouting bullshit. Who did I accuse of jumping the gun?

I simply said he had every right to react the way he did. If you and Kyro don't agree, fine. You're arguing about having the right to react a certain way.

Bravo.

Its all there in text, i dont need to discuss it any further as i know what was said.

kyro7 wrote:I'm talking about them because it seems these days everyone has to develop by the time they're 20 or 21 or they're a flop.

Irrelevant to our conversation. I never said nor thought that Theo was a flop.

No, but you have to use common sense, it was obvious Walcott could be a danger with some of the things he done, not often enough obviously but he needed time to come good and look at him now.

That much could be said about ANY player. Hell at one time Francis Jeffers was one of the hottest players in England and look how that turned out. He still hasn't come good. He has 5 goals in 6 starts, I would hardly say that makes up for the last couple years. When he can stay healthy and maintain his form then it can be argued if he came good on his potential.

And0TheGr8 wrote:Sagna is arguably the best RB in the Prem...good player imo and perfect for Arsenal

I didn't like him that much at the start of the season either.

But him and Walcott have really proven me otherwise this season.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

And0TheGr8 wrote:Sagna is arguably the best RB in the Prem...good player imo and perfect for Arsenal

I didn't like him that much at the start of the season either.

But him and Walcott have really proven me otherwise this season.

Yess... because you weren't an Arsenal supporter at the start of the season

I kid, but na he is the best RB in the league, and he didn't need to prove anyone of anything, he has been for a while now.

arsenalap11 wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

And0TheGr8 wrote:Sagna is arguably the best RB in the Prem...good player imo and perfect for Arsenal

I didn't like him that much at the start of the season either.

But him and Walcott have really proven me otherwise this season.

Yess... because you weren't an Arsenal supporter at the start of the season

I kid, but na he is the best RB in the league, and he didn't need to prove anyone of anything, he has been for a while now.

I think Ivanovic was last year, he was pretty solid.

Zzonked wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

And0TheGr8 wrote:Sagna is arguably the best RB in the Prem...good player imo and perfect for Arsenal

I didn't like him that much at the start of the season either.

But him and Walcott have really proven me otherwise this season.

Yess... because you weren't an Arsenal supporter at the start of the season

I kid, but na he is the best RB in the league, and he didn't need to prove anyone of anything, he has been for a while now.

I think Ivanovic was last year, he was pretty solid.

Ivanovic was the exception last year as he had a good year but Sagna was pretty much up there with him. Every other year Sagna has been the best, including the start of this season imo.

Arise arguing with people again..

AriseForLife wrote:

kyro7 wrote:I'm talking about them because it seems these days everyone has to develop by the time they're 20 or 21 or they're a flop.

Irrelevant to our conversation. I never said nor thought that Theo was a flop.

No, but you have to use common sense, it was obvious Walcott could be a danger with some of the things he done, not often enough obviously but he needed time to come good and look at him now.

That much could be said about ANY player. Hell at one time Francis Jeffers was one of the hottest players in England and look how that turned out. He still hasn't come good. He has 5 goals in 6 starts, I would hardly say that makes up for the last couple years. When he can stay healthy and maintain his form then it can be argued if he came good on his potential.

You could say it for ANY player but, all players have different circumstances. A lot of times managers are wrong but I think Arsene Wenger is a better judge then you, which he evidently is, as he made the right decision in keeping Walcott. In Walcott's case, he was still young, blistering pace etc and who better than Wenger to harness Walcott's abilities and evolve him into a better player rather then letting him go at such an early age and letting another team take advantage.