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    Players' union wants Qatar World Cup switched to winter

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    Post by GeorgeL Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:56 am


    The world footballers' union believes the 2022 World Cup in Qatar should be held in the winter instead of summer.With
    Gulf summer temperatures hitting 50C, FIFPro has said it is pleased
    Fifa is open to changing the tournament's timing to address the issue of
    heat.
    The president of world football's governing body, Sepp Blatter, backed a possible switch to January 2022. And in a statement, FIFPro said it "does not foresee any insurmountable problems in this regard". In
    the vote by Fifa's executive committee on 2 December, Qatar beat
    Australia, Japan, South Korea and the United States to host the World
    Cup, which is traditionally held in June and July. But the secretary of FIFPro's technical committee, Tijs Tummers, has questioned the decision to award Qatar the tournament based on it still being held in the summer.




    "It is not sensible in a country with an average temperature of 41C
    in June and July, a midday temperature of 50C and, above all, extremely
    high humidity," Tummers said. "Tourists are advised not to travel
    to Qatar in the summer months and inhabitants leave the country en
    masse during this period. "[So] the summer months in Qatar also
    do not provide suitable conditions for a festival of football such as
    the World Cup should be, including for the supporters." When
    Qatar was announced as host, German World Cup-winning captain and coach
    Franz Beckenbauer voiced concerns about the health risk the heat could
    pose for players. However Tummers insisted that by switching the
    dates the weather concerns could be countered, while players might be in
    better condition than if the tournament was held in its traditional
    slot at the end of a gruelling European season. "Space will have
    to be made for the tournament, even though many countries already have a
    winter break," the secretary of FIFPro's technical committee added. "In Europe, competitive matches will have to be played in August and the second half of May and the first half of June. "If
    you look at what happened last weekend with weather problems in Europe
    because of heavy snowfall, you could see this as an advantage rather
    than as a problem. "And it might, perhaps, turn out that the
    players will be fitter at the start of a winter World Cup than was the
    case last summer at the World Cup in South Africa."

    If you look what happened with weather problems in Europe because
    of heavy snowfall, you could see this as an advantage rather than as a
    problem

    FIFPro's technical committee secretary Tijs Tummers

    So looks like the players (at least officially) are in favour. What are people's views on a winter world cup? I think it would be shit, but maybe that's just me.


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    Post by Bushido Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:57 am

    How is that going to work then?
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    Post by GeorgeL Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:58 am

    Nightmare wrote:How is that going to work then?

    Idea of a 6 week winter break in January is being floated. Otherwise I suppose the WC players just leave their clubs - like African Cup of Nations, which would be interesting to say the least. Laughing
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    Post by ayvee1 Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:30 am

    Don't really have a choice, they can't have footballers and fans out in 40-50 degree heat for hours on end.
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:31 am

    Would be different
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    Post by wellz Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:34 am

    gonna be a shit world cup
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:41 am

    Players' Union can fuck off tbh.


    I'd happily play in 50 degrees at the World Cup.
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:47 am

    Just another reason Qatar shouldn't host it.
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:48 am

    Meh even better for me.

    I would miss most of Winter than. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:48 am

    They surely cant continue the domestic season, all the teams will lose their best players Laughing
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    Post by GeorgeL Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:04 am

    ayvee1 wrote:Don't really have a choice, they can't have footballers and fans out in 40-50 degree heat for hours on end.

    I'm pretty sure the Qatar bid contained a promise of air-conditioned stadiums and whatnot, but it seems they're just fucking off Fifa now and saying it should be in winter. Serves Fifa right to be honest, absolute dickheads the lot of them.
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    Post by Ben Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:29 am

    Would be better for European fans as well.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:11 am

    If they can't continue the world cup tradition of it being played in the summer then they're not fit to host the world cup, simples
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    Post by The Stig Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:03 pm

    Of all the countries in the world that would consider themselves as being capable of hosting a World Cup, I would put Qatar close to the bottom of the list I would want to see hold it.


    My view is formed largely on the experience I had from living in the Gulf State for 13 months a few years ago.

    Granted things have changed, but in speaking to friends who still live there not that much to make me believe that my original reaction of thinking their bid was a practical joke was wildly inaccurate.
    Here is why:

    Infrastructure.
    Even if we accept the idea that indoor stadiums might possibly work, the rest of Qatar’s infrastructure would make any sort of World Cup a nightmare. The capital Doha, which is effectively the entire country, is pretty much a number of unmarked roads linked by huge roundabouts. These roads get absolutely choked with traffic every day except the holy day of Friday. Alright, they aren’t Robinson Crusoe on that front but when you are a relatively small city and you have major traffic problems what is it going to be like when your population explodes for a few months?
    Everyone points to the statistic that they have one of the highest incomes per capita in the world, I like the one which states they have one of the highest rates of road fatalities in the world. Having taken my life in my hands a number of times every day when I was living there I can tell you, their roads, their drivers, their taxis and their public transport facilities (which are exclusively used by the lowly paid construction workers and go between the camps and the construction sites) would all score a zero on any objective test.
    But let’s not knock them out because they have an ordinary peak hour.

    Hotels
    Quite simply these will need to be built for the World Cup. The Emir will no doubt claim that he will foot the bill and he’ll need to given the state of the Gulf real estate market following the property crash in Dubai.

    Domestic crowds
    We’ve been told that the suits from FIFA will be keeping an eye on crowd figures from the A-League when determining the bid and this implies that the empty seats on the Gold Coast are a bad look. I can tell you first hand that even the worst crowd at Skilled Park looks like a packed Wembley when compared to the Qatari domestic league (I honestly believe it is called the Q-League).
    200 is about what you normally get to any sort of match in the local league, despite the likes of the De Boer brothers, Jay Jay Okocha and Alfonso Alves being on show.
    The first match I went to with my wife had us sitting by ourselves on one side of a 10,000 seat Stadium (seeing I was attending with a female I had to sit in the family section, which as I found out not a particularly popular pastime). On the other side of the ground about 150 youths with loud speakers cheering on their teams.

    Weather
    The Qataris originally claimed they would win the bid and then stage the tournament in November. They then realised this was as popular as inviting everyone to a cardboard licking party and switched the indoor stadium fantasy land. This is because it’s the middle of the summer in Qatar at this time, that’s 50 degrees (dropping to about 45 at night) and around 100 per cent humidity. Add to that the fairly strict rules about conservative dress and you get the idea why it’s been termed “hell’s waiting room” in the summer months. So everyone gets to go on holidays to the World Cup and spend the entire time inside. Oh joy.

    History of big events
    Sure the Qataris are known to turn out to watch their country play in stadiums which hold around 12,000 and when they do en masse it’s chaos. Australia at least has a history of organising big sporting events. When I attended the Asian Games, should the ticket inspectors suddenly feel overwhelmed they simply shut the gates to any events. It was madness. Okay it can be fixed but you are starting at ground zero.

    Get the beers in
    Fact: you can drink at a number of very boring and dull hotel bars in Qatar and alcohol can be purchased by expats who have purchased a permit (which is reasonably straightforward). But on the whole you are looking at a dry World Cup. “Oh, it’s not just about fans getting pissed” is what the critics cry. That is certainly true, but it’s also true that potential tourists go to a place they can enjoy themselves and for the vast majority of fans that enjoyment is linked to watching the football and having a few beers.
    What is more complex is alcohol sponsorship. FIFA is very protective of their sponsors, particularly the brewers who fork out big dollars for the right. How do you think they’ll react to, “Hey boys, how about you sit this one out?”

    Blood sweat and tears
    Those state of the art stadiums which everyone is so excited about will be built by foreign workers, shanghaied into working in the Gulf for a paltry wage, who often choose to live on the construction site because it is better than the “accommodation” they pay a premium to have.
    It’s nothing short of a disgrace. This is modern day slavery and even I would be stunned by FIFA should they stoop so low as to condone this sort of treatment
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    Geo-politics
    Here is a question? How does a country that doesn’t recognise the state of Israel host an international tournament that Israel is hoping to qualify for? Do we just hope they don’t qualify and to avoid an embarrassing stand-off? And even if we dodge that bullet (no pun intended) what happens when Israelis or even people who have previously visited Israel decide they want to attend because as it stands Qatar refuses entry to anyone with that said stamp in there passport (yes, I know there are ways around it, but that ain’t no way to run a tournament)?

    As Spiro rightly points out, the Middle East is “a powder keg”, one only needs to look at the enormous fight that occurred when Dubai wanted to host the America’s Cup (yes, the America’s Cup) and you get an idea of what sort of bun fight we are in for if the World Cup goes to Qatar, just a short hop across the Gulf from Iran and that other fun spot, Iraq.

    Not even the power hungry maniacs at FIFA nor the naive sports fan who thinks that a football match can cure all can even begin to believe that the problems of the Middle East could be solved by hosting New Zealand and the Czech Republic at Al Saad stadium.*

    Al Saad Stadium was down to host a number of Women’s football matches at the 2006 Asian Games until the owner of the stadium decreed no woman could play on its surface. Good luck with the bid boys.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:33 pm

    The bid that won was a summer world cup.

    If its changed to a completely different part of the year they should be disqualified because it is not the same bid as what was voted for.

    Australia or USA should get it.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:51 pm

    This is gonna be the shittest WC ever. 🇳🇴

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