The Atheist Thread

The Dane wrote:Ahly, I have question which is purely because you seem to be very knowledgeable, but what would you do if there was no God? I want just an honest answer? like I admit, I don't believe in an afterlife, I envy religious people for doing so but I don't

But to set the storyline is that an alien race has revealed themselves to us and tell us there is no God, they created us as an experiment and are making contact with us now as we are ready and they are happy with the way we have developed.

Others are also more than welcome to post replies but this is a reaction i specifically want from Ahly, or other religious followers in this Forum!

ahlycotc wrote:

The Dane wrote:Ahly, I have question which is purely because you seem to be very knowledgeable, but what would you do if there was no God? I want just an honest answer? like I admit, I don't believe in an afterlife, I envy religious people for doing so but I don't

But to set the storyline is that an alien race has revealed themselves to us and tell us there is no God, they created us as an experiment and are making contact with us now as we are ready and they are happy with the way we have developed.

Others are also more than welcome to post replies but this is a reaction i specifically want from Ahly, or other religious followers in this Forum!

How do the aliens know that there is no God?

polska. wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

How do the aliens know that there is no God?

If they are space-faring and have created us, then it is safe to assume they are intelligent enough to eliminate such archaic concepts such as religion from their society.

ahlycotc wrote:

polska. wrote:If they are space-faring and have created us, then it is safe to assume they are intelligent enough to eliminate such archaic concepts such as religion from their society.

That doesn't eliminate God. Like I said, we can clone and maybe in the future create our own beings. That doesn't mean there is no God.

polska. wrote:You forget how incredibly difficult it is to find fossils that old.

Haven't we actually found a new fossil recently in South Africa or somewhere that looked like the transitional being between Homo Habilis and Homo Erectus? It had Homo Erectus like pelvis(!), Erectus like Skull shape, hands and feet etc. but still had a rather tiny brain compared to the Erectus?

I don't know the details, I was moving countries during those findings so wasn't really paying attention, but more than likely all the transitional fossils (like what you are asking) are there, just not found yet.

polska. wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

That doesn't eliminate God. Like I said, we can clone and maybe in the future create our own beings. That doesn't mean there is no God.

Doesn't mean there is a god, especially considering there is NOTHING to support the theory of God.

menalawyerguy wrote:I don't know the details, I was moving countries during those findings so wasn't really paying attention, but more than likely all the transitional fossils (like what you are asking) are there, just not found yet.

menalawyerguy wrote:Another thing that nobody has been able to sufficiently explain is the eye. There are no eyes in the fossil record before the Cambrian period. No light sensitive microbes even, to say nothing about beings with eye sockets. Those types of things would have fossilized during precambrian considering lots of soft-bodied organisms fossilized during that period. So no eyes and then suddenly, tons of species with highly sophisticated eyes with thousands of parts (all essential btw) and said eyes just happen to be located in the ideal places on their bodies.


That should be enough to hang the jury at least. But this stuff is never really discussed in substance in the media or in schools. We're just browbeaten into accepting evolution as fact. Anybody who questions it is a fundamentalist religious nut. "Evolution is fact and if you don't agree, you are an agenda-driven anti-science nut." The public debate doesn't get much more substantive than that.

Sean wrote:If evolution doesn't exist, then how did my Charmander become a Charizard?

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Sean wrote:If evolution doesn't exist, then how did my Charmander become a Charizard?

Excellent point.




Wait, I'm supposed to be on the other side.

menalawyerguy wrote:Another thing that nobody has been able to sufficiently explain is the eye. There are no eyes in the fossil record before the Cambrian period. No light sensitive microbes even, to say nothing about beings with eye sockets. Those types of things would have fossilized during precambrian considering lots of soft-bodied organisms fossilized during that period. So no eyes and then suddenly, tons of species with highly sophisticated eyes with thousands of parts (all essential btw) and said eyes just happen to be located in the ideal places on their bodies.


That should be enough to hang the jury at least. But this stuff is never really discussed in substance in the media or in schools. We're just browbeaten into accepting evolution as fact. Anybody who questions it is a fundamentalist religious nut. "Evolution is fact and if you don't agree, you are an agenda-driven anti-science nut." The public debate doesn't get much more substantive than that.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:It's not the first time he's been wrong.

Eternal Witcher wrote:So RR believes in God on youtube, but doesn't here. Strange stuff.

Jorlung wrote:I kind of sort of believe in God.

Somethings in the Bible and some theories that Christianity promotes seem like complete rubbish to me though. I don't so much believe in God as I believe in being a Christian which kind of makes no sense. When someone asks me my religion I say Catholic but my beliefs are that people should live their lives respectfully to others and themselves, and mostly what Christianity teaches us; To do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I'm not really a big supporter of God but I sort of believe in him I suppose, I pray occasionally maybe not so much that I expect someone to hear me, but it just kind of makes me feel better to do so. To me the main reason I think I sort of believe in God is because of the reason that the world had to be created somehow (even that speck of an atom that created the big bang). But then I think where did God come from, which confuses me so I stop thinking about it and do something productive.

As for aethiests and agnostics I never really try to press religions upon someone unless they want it.

I don't even know why I bother posting in religious threads, two things that make absolutely no sense to argue about are politics and religions. They are opinionated and there is neither a wrong nor a right answer. Religious believers can't prove God exists, Aethiest can't prove he doesn't. I've seen countless threads which usually average around this post count, but more or less it often goes as followed:

Post 1 : God doesn't exist
Post 2: Yes he does
Post 3: No he doesn't.

Rinse and repeat

SBSP wrote:Because then it's not faith.

polska. wrote:That's idiotic, to believe in something just for the sake of believing it, and no other reason, and for no reason/proof/evidence to believe in it. It's blind idioticy.

polska. wrote:That's idiotic, to believe in something just for the sake of believing it, and no other reason, and for no reason/proof/evidence to believe in it. It's blind idioticy.