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    Post by Lux Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:52 pm

    Ibra isn't overrated.

    His goal scoring record wherever he's been has been good/great. He does what you would expect him to do.....and more. For someone of his height and strength he has a lot of skill.
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:02 pm

    grenade187 wrote:Fuck Bendtner I would take Ibrahimovic over Van Persie despite his issues.
    Oh dear.
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    Post by Grenade Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:23 pm

    The-Reporter wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Fuck Bendtner I would take Ibrahimovic over Van Persie despite his issues.
    Oh dear.

    What ?
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:34 pm

    grenade187 wrote:
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    grenade187 wrote:Fuck Bendtner I would take Ibrahimovic over Van Persie despite his issues.
    Oh dear.

    What ?
    I'd rather have RVP anyday. Especially with Chamakh to fill in when he's injured.
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    Post by Grenade Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:41 pm

    I would take Ibra simply due to the fact that he is not injured 8 times out of 10 like VP and has some better qualities such as strenght and aerial ability.

    I guess it boils down to personal preference then.
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:05 pm

    van persie wishes he had ibras skill set

    van persie is like poor version of ibra, not as strong, slower, not as good in aerial and does not even have as good skills as ibra who is most skillful striker in world football

    maybe he works harder and is more versatile, but ibrahimovic is much superior player, scores and gets involve in goalscoring play a lot more
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:16 pm

    kyro7 wrote:
    dena wrote:Chelsea have an injury crisis.
    They'll have an even bigger injury crisis when I rip Drogba's anus off and feed it to Malouda.

    Is Rio trying to rip Ronaldo's anus off in your avatar?

    A defiant Ronaldo appears to be thinking "keep trying, cunt. But my anus is too strong for you."


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    Post by Grenade Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:25 pm

    mauro wrote:van persie wishes he had ibras skill set

    van persie is like poor version of ibra, not as strong, slower, not as good in aerial and does not even have as good skills as ibra who is most skillful striker in world football

    maybe he works harder and is more versatile, but ibrahimovic is much superior player, scores and gets involve in goalscoring play a lot more

    Van Persie and Ibra are very different players. How can Van Persie be a poor version of Ibra ?
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:28 pm

    grenade187 wrote:
    mauro wrote:van persie wishes he had ibras skill set

    van persie is like poor version of ibra, not as strong, slower, not as good in aerial and does not even have as good skills as ibra who is most skillful striker in world football

    maybe he works harder and is more versatile, but ibrahimovic is much superior player, scores and gets involve in goalscoring play a lot more

    Van Persie and Ibra are very different players. How can Van Persie be a poor version of Ibra ?

    no there not

    both technically gifted strikers

    both can play with both back to goal and run at defenders

    both take free kick

    both focal point to their attack

    why they different Neutral ? just because ibra is tall doesnt mean he cannot be compared to shorter player. jean claude darcheville was a midget but he was also a target man. hence why he can being compared position wise to someone like drogba
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:57 pm

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    Post by Lux Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:34 pm

    Ibrahimovic will kick yo ass in with karate skillz.

    Van Persie will drawing your painting Neutral
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:18 pm

    Van Persie will push little kids into metal fences for you as well.
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    Post by mil1lion Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:39 pm

    Is it a coincidence that he only does so well in Serie A, which is a slower tempo than say La Liga?

    I think on his day he is a great player, but he does drift out of games a lot aswell. He's one of those players who can do nothing for most of the game, but come up with a bit of matchwinning brilliance to win a game. A bit like Ronaldinho really. They have so much ability but dont use it throughout the game, just in small spells. Plus neither work really hard for the team (although Ibra did work hard in the Milan derby).

    I dont mind players like that because they can win games. Ijust wouldn't want more than 1 on the pitch at the same time. What makes Barca so special is that they all work so hard for eachother. Thats why they let Ibra go, because he doesn't work hard enough. Players like Ibra have to be treated like passangers a lot of the time and you have to rely on the other 9 outfield players to do all the work. But when he comes up with the goods its hard to criticise him.

    As for who is better, its hard to compare him to the best strikers in the world. I think Serie A is a very good league, but its still some distance from La Lga and the EPL. So until he proves himself in one of those 2 leagues (and he didn't in La Liga last season really) then I cant really judge. He is definitely one of the best strikers in Serie A though and he's a great player for Milan. They have to sign him on a full contract.
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    Post by Lux Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:23 pm

    James wrote:Van Persie will push little kids into metal fences for you as well.

    He didn't even push the kid but it's funny anyway pirat

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    Also Ibra scored a goal every other game. By any standards that is good, and even if he wasn't running around the whole pitch he still contributed with goals.
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    Post by dena Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:45 pm

    mil1lion wrote:Is it a coincidence that he only does so well in Serie A, which is a slower tempo than say La Liga?

    I think on his day he is a great player, but he does drift out of games a lot aswell. He's one of those players who can do nothing for most of the game, but come up with a bit of matchwinning brilliance to win a game. A bit like Ronaldinho really. They have so much ability but dont use it throughout the game, just in small spells. Plus neither work really hard for the team (although Ibra did work hard in the Milan derby).

    I dont mind players like that because they can win games. Ijust wouldn't want more than 1 on the pitch at the same time. What makes Barca so special is that they all work so hard for eachother. Thats why they let Ibra go, because he doesn't work hard enough. Players like Ibra have to be treated like passangers a lot of the time and you have to rely on the other 9 outfield players to do all the work. But when he comes up with the goods its hard to criticise him.

    As for who is better, its hard to compare him to the best strikers in the world. I think Serie A is a very good league, but its still some distance from La Lga and the EPL. So until he proves himself in one of those 2 leagues (and he didn't in La Liga last season really) then I cant really judge. He is definitely one of the best strikers in Serie A though and he's a great player for Milan. They have to sign him on a full contract.

    He didn't fit in Barcelona's system (which might be why they got him), and cost too much, which was why he was let go. But he still had 21 goals in 41 games for a .51 GPG average, which is pretty good for a player joining a new league if you ask me. He'd probably do better in England in one of the top three teams.
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    Post by mil1lion Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:14 am

    dena wrote:
    mil1lion wrote:Is it a coincidence that he only does so well in Serie A, which is a slower tempo than say La Liga?

    I think on his day he is a great player, but he does drift out of games a lot aswell. He's one of those players who can do nothing for most of the game, but come up with a bit of matchwinning brilliance to win a game. A bit like Ronaldinho really. They have so much ability but dont use it throughout the game, just in small spells. Plus neither work really hard for the team (although Ibra did work hard in the Milan derby).

    I dont mind players like that because they can win games. Ijust wouldn't want more than 1 on the pitch at the same time. What makes Barca so special is that they all work so hard for eachother. Thats why they let Ibra go, because he doesn't work hard enough. Players like Ibra have to be treated like passangers a lot of the time and you have to rely on the other 9 outfield players to do all the work. But when he comes up with the goods its hard to criticise him.

    As for who is better, its hard to compare him to the best strikers in the world. I think Serie A is a very good league, but its still some distance from La Lga and the EPL. So until he proves himself in one of those 2 leagues (and he didn't in La Liga last season really) then I cant really judge. He is definitely one of the best strikers in Serie A though and he's a great player for Milan. They have to sign him on a full contract.

    He didn't fit in Barcelona's system (which might be why they got him), and cost too much, which was why he was let go. But he still had 21 goals in 41 games for a .51 GPG average, which is pretty good for a player joining a new league if you ask me. He'd probably do better in England in one of the top three teams.
    Its a good scoring ratio, but I would expect a Barca centre forward to score lots of goals considering how many chances they create. He didn't fit the system too well, but his lack of desire to get into the box and lack of workrate hardly won the team over. He also didn't get on well with Messi at all and they didn't link up well. David Villa on the other hand works a lot better with Messi. Probably because he's more of a team player than Ibra.
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:36 am

    lol there was nothing much wrong with his play

    he was just not completely suit barcelona system and was replaced by slightly better player

    is no shame in that

    as for he needing to prove himself in bigger league, lol what is this joke, he score 16 goals and 9 assist inside 29 games in la liga. is fantastic record

    not even david villa has settle in as good as he wanted to so far in barcelona. he suffer from being use inefficiently many times like ibrahimovic last season like being played onto wing

    epl bigger than serie a? i see so ibra must prove himself and score goal against west ham and wigan to be consider top player
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:14 am

    He is a lazy ass. That's the only bad thing you can say about him.

    But honestly, that's bad. It's the one thing you have complete control over. You can't help how fast, strong, big or wise God made you. But you can completely control how hard you work. If he had Tevez's work rate, he'd score a goal per game. Easily.
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:06 am

    Ibra is a talented player, but he isn't consistent. He is also quite lazy in his movements and opening up spaces for his teammates. He is sort of like Berbatov, but better.
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    Post by JK Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:51 am

    Ibra is gifted and underrated, but he's such an idiot. If only he'd be normal.. Laughing
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    Post by luke. Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:02 am

    mauro wrote:he is most talented and gifted striker in the world

    he is stronger than drogba and has better skillset than berbatov.whats not to like?

    he is not overrated, just maligned because of his attitude

    Stronger then Drogba? Yeah.. right.
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:17 am

    I know that he is a quality player but whenever I see him live, he's shit Laughing
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    Post by masutora Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:02 am

    "Ibra is an immense talent but his attitude irritates me" direct quote by me in FM2011 after he scored a brace against me.
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    Post by AriseForLife Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:24 pm

    kyro7 wrote:One thing I've found funny is that one minute people slate Rooney and say he's shite, then the next we're a one man team relying on him to stay at the top... Is Ibrahimovic overrated? - Page 3 326368

    That's because people are fickle and pretty much agree with what seems to be the popular opinion of Rooney at the moment.

    If Rooney were to suddenly catch fire and start scoring freely you would see people and the English all on his dick again like they were last season.
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    Post by I Love Cake Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:11 pm

    Ibra is shite, & has a cock nose
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    Post by SBSP Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:35 pm

    I Love Cake wrote:Ibra is shite, & has a cock nose
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:45 pm

    luke. wrote:
    mauro wrote:he is most talented and gifted striker in the world

    he is stronger than drogba and has better skillset than berbatov.whats not to like?

    he is not overrated, just maligned because of his attitude

    Stronger then Drogba? Yeah.. right.

    ibrahimovic is not only taller, but he is heavier with lesser body fat percentage

    oh your the guy with drogba and chelseas doodle up your anus

    so your opinion is rejected little noob
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    Post by Torresxvilla Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:51 pm

    Don't know about Ibra being stronger than Drogba, but Ibra definitely is strong enough to hold off defenders. He also has the ball control and technique that many other strikers don't have.
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:58 pm

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    i doubt u will finding many players in any position that has his technical skill

    ibrahimovic when u talking about parts, he is a bentley luxury car, he is absolutely perfect when u talk about his "parts". he has skills of ronaldo, close control of iniesta, he has pace of david villa, he take free kicks like beckham, he goal poaches like inzaghi, he is athletic like drogba he is aerial like cahill, he creates like riquelme, he passes like xavi etc. the problems for him is that those sum of those part as the saying goes, is not always work

    technically he is absolute beast, only player in this world in which i would say is better is just messi, any others like ronaldo or iniesta is how u say "arguable"

    like in that other thread about why messi being more complete than ronaldo, ibrahimovic is very similar to ronaldo in this regard. he is one of most "complete" player in the world, in fact, in my opinion he is the most complete after messi. but messi is messi, and he is just to good fo ranyone else
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    Post by Grenade Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:24 pm

    Mauro are you being serious or sarcastic ? I cant tell ?

    The part where you compared Ibra's passing to Xavi makes it seem like your taking the piss...

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