Arsenal beat Liverpool | 21st December

I want to see a gif of Brendan '88' Rodgers' celebration of Coutinho's goal.

I also want to see a gif of Giroud's shuck and jive celebration.

Bar the last minute goal which totally detracts from everything, I thought we totally controlled Liverpool. It's a shame that we couldn't do that without it stifling our attacking abilities otherwise we'd have gotten 3 or 4 today easily. Can't believe how dreadful Liverpool were, I thought last week at United was bad but they were even worse today. Damning indictment of us that we can't even beat this lot.

Maybe if they had Özil available they would have created more chances.  He's excellent against mid table shit.

Keyser Söze wrote:Bar the last minute goal which totally detracts from everything, I thought we totally controlled Liverpool. It's a shame that we couldn't do that without it stifling our attacking abilities otherwise we'd have gotten 3 or 4 today easily. Can't believe how dreadful Liverpool were, I thought last week at United was bad but they were even worse today. Damning indictment of us that we can't even beat this lot.  

Controlled them how?

FCB wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:Bar the last minute goal which totally detracts from everything, I thought we totally controlled Liverpool. It's a shame that we couldn't do that without it stifling our attacking abilities otherwise we'd have gotten 3 or 4 today easily. Can't believe how dreadful Liverpool were, I thought last week at United was bad but they were even worse today. Damning indictment of us that we can't even beat this lot.  

Controlled them how?

They created nothing of note at all despite us allowing them free reign of the ball. Both goals they scored were due to shocking defending from us. Every time we attacked (which wasn't as frequent as it should have been) we looked like scoring.

Keyser Söze wrote:Bar the last minute goal which totally detracts from everything, I thought we totally controlled Liverpool. It's a shame that we couldn't do that without it stifling our attacking abilities otherwise we'd have gotten 3 or 4 today easily. Can't believe how dreadful Liverpool were, I thought last week at United was bad but they were even worse today. Damning indictment of us that we can't even beat this lot.  

That wasn't us controlling them, that was them having no goal threat. Honestly, I don't want to see us play like this ever again, even if it means we win. It's bad enough when we drop points while playing with a modicum of creativity and guile but to drop points while playing like we did today might actually be the end of me.

Keyser Söze wrote:

FCB wrote:

Controlled them how?

They created nothing of note at all despite us allowing them free reign of the ball. Both goals they scored were due to shocking defending from us. Every time we attacked (which wasn't as frequent as it should have been) we looked like scoring.

Still don't see how that's controlling them.

He was like that for a good 2 or 3 seconds before he realised what he was doing.

Keyser Söze wrote:

FCB wrote:

Controlled them how?

They created nothing of note at all despite us allowing them free reign of the ball. Both goals they scored were due to shocking defending from us. Every time we attacked (which wasn't as frequent as it should have been) we looked like scoring.

27 shots, lmfao. What are you on?

FCB wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:

They created nothing of note at all despite us allowing them free reign of the ball. Both goals they scored were due to shocking defending from us. Every time we attacked (which wasn't as frequent as it should have been) we looked like scoring.

Still don't see how that's controlling them.

Allowing a team up to 90% of the ball yet restricting them to no chance is the definition of controlling.

Scott_LFC wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:

They created nothing of note at all despite us allowing them free reign of the ball. Both goals they scored were due to shocking defending from us. Every time we attacked (which wasn't as frequent as it should have been) we looked like scoring.

27 shots, lmfao. What are you on?

Yeah like that Gerrard pee roller. That's such an excellent chance!

Giroud wins.

Just because Liverpool were shit doesn't mean you controlled them. The first half was an utter travesty until you lucked out on a set piece. If you had controlled it, there's no way you wouldn't have won.

The Zlatan wrote:

Giroud wins.

Wenger was a fool taking him and Alexis off.

SBSP wrote:Just because Liverpool were shit doesn't mean you controlled them. The first half was an utter travesty until you lucked out on a set piece. If you had controlled it, there's no way you wouldn't have won.

We made Liverpool look shit, that's what controlling a team does We didn't luck out with the set piece, we clearly knew we could score at any moment and that's the mindset that you need when you set out to relinquish possession of the ball for as long as we did.

Keyser Söze wrote:

FCB wrote:

Still don't see how that's controlling them.

Allowing a team up to 90% of the ball yet restricting them to no chance is the definition of controlling.

Restricting them to no chances? They had 27 shots and 10 on target.

All this means is that Liverpool are shit at converting their chances. But Arsenal have by no means controlled the game or restricted Liverpool from creating chances.

SBSP wrote:Wenger was a fool taking him and Alexis off.

Sanchez I'm indifferent about, but taking Giroud off was a terrible decision, he was our best attacking outlet and he may have made a difference defending corners in the last few minutes as well.

This game was the football equivalent of a bum fight.

LOL at taking those shots stats seriously. Slippy took like 7 what-a-hit-son shots in the game, only 1 of them was actually threatening and that was in the 91st minute or so. it was a well-contested game between both teams who relied more on individuals rather than play

FCB wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
Allowing a team up to 90% of the ball yet restricting them to no chance is the definition of controlling.

Restricting them to no chances? They had 27 shots and 10 on target.

All this means is that Liverpool are shit at converting their chances. But Arsenal have by no means controlled the game or restricted Liverpool from creating chances.

Off the top of my head 3 of those 10 shots on trager were pathetic shots from Gerrard and Coutinho. I don't think our defensive unit minded that much

This wasn't like against United last week, they didn't get in behind, they didn't have one on ones, they weren't undone by wonder saves (although Szczesny did make two saves that were on par with some of the ones Neville creamed over last week with DDG yet nothing was said about them). We let them have the ball in pointless areas, allowed them to recycle possession, allowed them to build up confidence and then snatch it away from them and allowed ourselves to keep our shape. This shit is what you call control.

Control

vel wrote:LOL at taking those shots stats seriously. Slippy took like 7 what-a-hit-son shots in the game, only 1 of them was actually threatening and that was in the 91st minute or so. it was a well-contested game between both teams who relied more on individuals rather than play

Yeah exactly, but taking lots of pot-shots is Scott's definition of chances.

You had 80% of the ball in the 1st half yet it ended 1-1 with us scoring with our 1st shot on target Don't think you'll see a better example of control than that. We lost that because Mertesacker has become awful and once again because of zonal marking/no men on the posts.

i don't think either team were in control. Liverpool dominated the ball in the first half but they never had a reference point in the final third to actually build plays from, instead it was mostly Sterling drifting to disrupt the defence and then Coutinho getting in those spaces right in front of the defence. there was little attacking intent and Liverpool only created a couple of chances from defender mistakes (Markovic's chance on the left wing, Coutinho's goal). Arsenal's only chance (and goal) in the first half was from defensive mistakes. the second half was crappy, Liverpool played better when they put strikers on .

like i said earlier, it was a well-contested game imo. end-to-end, exciting stuff but it was poor calcio overall. Giroud should never have been subbed off imo. Coutinho best player easily

Keyser Söze wrote:

FCB wrote:

Restricting them to no chances? They had 27 shots and 10 on target.

All this means is that Liverpool are shit at converting their chances. But Arsenal have by no means controlled the game or restricted Liverpool from creating chances.

Off the top of my head 3 of those 10 shots on trager were pathetic shots from Gerrard and Coutinho. I don't think our defensive unit minded that much

This wasn't like against United last week, they didn't get in behind, they didn't have one on ones, they weren't undone by wonder saves (although Szczesny did make two saves that were on par with some of the ones Neville creamed over last week with DDG yet nothing was said about them). We let them have the ball in pointless areas, allowed them to recycle possession, allowed them to build up confidence and then snatch it away from them and allowed ourselves to keep our shape. This shit is what you call control.  

That was incompetence on the half of Liverpool. They didn't have many clear cut chances, but I wouldn't call that Arsenal control.

Markovic's shot at the near post which was well saved, Markovic's curler that went over the bar, Coutinho's goal, Borini's header, Skrtel's goal, Gerrard's header after Sterling rounded the keeper, a couple of other decent saves from your GK that I can't remember who took the shots. That's quite a few good chances, we definitely weren't restricted chances by Arsenal. It was more down to our poor finishing that we didn't score several. 27 shots is the most shots you've conceded since 2003 or something (saw on Opta). Fucking control

Bitter Brendan wrote:I don't think it was a free-kick in the build-up to their second. Alexis Sanchez dived for me and the referee bought it

Love how no one's talking about Sterling's blatant cheating to handle the ball past Szczesny.

SBSP wrote:Love how no one's talking about Sterling's blatant cheating to handle the ball past Szczesny.

Jamaican instinct

Scott_LFC wrote:Markovic's shot at the near post which was well saved

Impossible angle. No way anyone scores from that, defenders will be happy if that's the type of "chances" you create.

Scott_LFC wrote:Markovic's curler that went over the bar

Miles off target, excellent pressure from the defence to make him take it quickly despite having space.

Scott_LFC wrote:Coutinho's goal

I said bar the goals which were shit defending by us

Scott_LFC wrote:Borini's header

Straight at the GK, our defence knows a player like Borino isn't going to trouble us with headers so they're happy to let the GK deal with simple ones like that/

Scott_LFC wrote:Skrtel's goal

Same as before.

Scott_LFC wrote:Gerrard's header after Sterling rounded the keeper

The one where Sterling flick it with his hand?   You need to cheat to create a "chance" like that?  

Scott_LFC wrote:a couple of other decent saves from your GK that I can't remember who took the shots. That's quite a few good chances

"Blah blah blah can't come up with anything so I'm going to be obtuse"

Scott_LFC wrote:we definitely weren't restricted chances by Arsenal. It was more down to our poor finishing that we didn't score several. 27 shots is the most shots you've conceded since 2003 or something (saw on Opta). Fucking control

Are those all the "chances"? None of those are of note at all We attacked like 3 times and created infinitely better chances. You keep talking about these 27 shots but all of them were pathetic, we were perfectly happy to let YNWA Gerrard to take pot shots from 30 yards, that is the definition of restricting you