Sony Playstation 4 Announcement - February 20th 2013 - 11PM

dena wrote:

Jord wrote:One of my main gripes with the PS3 is the controller; It might as well have been made out of paper and the triggers out of cardboard. It's that shit.

Never had an issue with either controller, had a PS2 and PS1 though so the PS3 one feels natural, I liked the xbox controller too.


These are the consoles that will take us to 2020, think about that, the main thing for me is processing power, hopefully these two machines can bridge the gap between PC and console and the dev's take advantage of that.

PS1 and PS2 had amazing controllers. The weight and feel were perfect but I think the PS3 one is too light and the triggers piss me off. The analog sticks are a little sensitive as well. Again, personal preference

Little Big Planet is a shit game. GT5 was alright.. Uncharted is good, but it's a tad overrated.

Mass Effect was a good exclusive before PS got their grubby hands on it, but we still got it a few months/ about a year before them for Mass Effect 2

I prefer the Xbox controller, the PS one makes my hands sweaty for some reason. And I don't like the joy sticks, but that's because i'm used to the xbox ones which have a little dip in them:shifty: And I find that the Xbox live community is better than PS3's.. I find myself talking to people on Xbox, whilst not many people have mics on PS network. Also, it kept going down when I was trying to play it.

I hope they keep Uncharted a PlayStation exclusive. If I had to make a list of my 5 favorite games of the generation all 3 Uncharted games would be there.

Naughty Dog

Jord wrote:It's personal opinion I suppose I won't argue with anyone who thinks the PS3 is a better console but I currently don't understand what the PS4 is offering to make people switch over from the Xbox 360. And should anyone understand? I mean we really don't know what going to happen with either console.

I'm mainly annoyed at the fact I'm charged £40 a year to unlock half a game I've already paid for and a party chat feature. You literally get nothing else. They even have the cheek to throw adverts all over the place too. That and the Xbox has near enough no big exclusives anymore.

Jord wrote:It will be same thing over again. It has taken Sony an entire new generation of console to 'catch up' to the Xbox 360 when it comes to the price of playing online games. How that is enough to make the PS4 a 'first priority' is beyond me. Put it this way; Microsoft have tons of shit up their sleeves and will take whatever they intend to implement to the next level.

Like I said it will take a lot more than free online and the odd JRPG to convince me to buy a PS4.

dena wrote:I've had a 360 and PS3 for roughly about the same time, the 'exclusive' lines are stressing to blur, what does 360 have over Xbox? People used to say it was online stability, but I've never met any problems with that.

I have no idea what these two things mean

Jord wrote:PS1 and PS2 had amazing controllers. The weight and feel were perfect but I think the PS3 one is too light and the triggers piss me off. The analog sticks are a little sensitive as well. Again, personal preference

Yeah people complained about the original SIXAXIS and they added a lot more weight to the DualShock 3. Have you tried it?

Triggers are still average though.

Cam wrote:Little Big Planet is a shit game. GT5 was alright.. Uncharted is good, but it's a tad overrated.

Mass Effect was a good exclusive before PS got their grubby hands on it, but we still got it a few months/ about a year before them for Mass Effect 2

I prefer the Xbox controller, the PS one makes my hands sweaty for some reason. And I don't like the joy sticks, but that's because i'm used to the xbox ones which have a little dip in them:shifty: And I find that the Xbox live community is better than PS3's.. I find myself talking to people on Xbox, whilst not many people have mics on PS network. Also, it kept going down when I was trying to play it.

LBP has won awards before, not saying it's an outstanding game of the year game but it's good fun. Probably wouldn't buy it for $50, but I got it for free and it was pretty good. I don't know what you mean but literally almost everyone playing black ops has a mic when I'm on, rarely does less than half the lobby have a mic.

Unless you're a 15 year old teenager with no job and a hard on for Call of Duty then Xbox Live is not worth it.

shit, that reminds me, I need to cancel my xbox live subscription.

Cancel, why?

I had it on auto-renewal (cos that's the automatic thing) so I've had money going out of my bank account cos I forgot about it

Jord wrote:Unless you're a 15 year old teenager with no job and a hard on for Call of Duty then Xbox Live is not worth it.

Agreed, Jord what would you do if KH3 was a PS4 launch title? It's very plausible. Have you seen Ni No Kuni by the way, it looks amazing. Drawn by Studio Ghibli.

Mouse wrote:

Jord wrote:Unless you're a 15 year old teenager with no job and a hard on for Call of Duty then Xbox Live is not worth it.

Agreed, Jord what would you do if KH3 was a PS4 launch title? It's very plausible. Have you seen Ni No Kuni by the way, it looks amazing. Drawn by Studio Ghibli.

Ni No Kuni looks beautiful. Like I said I will definitely miss owning the exclusive JRPG's

If KH4 comes out just for the PS4 then I'll cry and either demand a friend buys and lets me play it or I'll borrow a PS4 from somebody.

Wow, just googled Ni No Kuni, very nice.

What's KH?

Kingdom Hearts

Looks amazing, there's a Welsh guy in it for fuck sake!

Reminds me of Howl's moving castle, like the art style

Apparently the game is amazing.

Cam wrote:Reminds me of Howl's moving castle, like the art style

Animated by the same people, they did Spirited away and Ponyo as well.

Cam wrote:Reminds me of Howl's moving castle, like the art style

Howl

Leaked images of the PS4!!

Spoiler:

here's a great article summarizing next gen hardware:

http://www.gamespot.com/features/what-xbox-720-and-playstation-4-will-take-from-pcs-6402954/

Possible pricing: http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/6/3961512/ps4-price-and-release-date-in-asahi-shimbun-report

I can't really see this selling for less than $400 for the first year or so, but who knows.

According to Edge magazine, the rumoured specs are 100% true and both consoles will be capable of playing games at 1080P with 60 FPS.

Compared to the current 30FPS at 480P.

Are current games really 480p?

The back of my cases usually say 720p (they still look pretty shit)..

I know you've said they're upscaled...Is there a source for this?
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If it is true it is good news.

If both specs are similar and more like the PC they will be easier to develop for. The PS3 was apparently a bitch to develop for, especially for 3rd party developers making games for all platforms.

PS3 usually got the shitty port.

Sorry, should have made it clearer. Games like BF3 & BO2 are native 480P and upscaled to 720P.

where did you read this?

http://www.lensoftruth.com/battlefield-3-is-sub-hd-on-ps3-xbox-360/

Templeton7|RFC wrote:Sorry, should have made it clearer. Games like BF3 & BO2 are native 480P and upscaled to 720P.

They're shit but not quite that shit.
Also they are only upscaled to 720p if your display is set to 720p, obviously. If it's 1080p then it gets upscaled to 1080p, otherwise it wouldn't fill your screen.

I think most games are between 600-720, with shooters having a tendency to be at the lower end so they can get better performance. A quick Google search tells me Black Ops II is 880x720 (on Xbox) at 60 fps and BF3 is 1280x704 at 30fps.