James McClean refused to wear poppy

Getting bare stick for it on Twitter.

I couldn't care less if he didn't wear one or not tbh. He has his justified reasons.

Do you think he should be banned from playing for Sunderland ever again, as morons on Twitter are suggesting? He's also been getting death threats apparently

Why did he refuse to wear one?

Good for him.

Ra's al Ghul wrote:Why did he refuse to wear one?

Bloody Sunday.

Things like showing support for the army and singing the national anthem should be a choice that you make without backlash. Insulting and threatening people for not doing those things is worse than showing disrespect to people who served in the army.

Good on him.

ahlycotc wrote:Things like showing support for the army and singing the national anthem should be a choice that you make without backlash. Insulting and threatening people for not doing those things is worse than showing disrespect to people who served in the army.

Agreed.

I really couldn't care less tbh.

I bet the people who are criticizing him are the same who say how bad war is yet idolise the people in wars.

John O'shea did it as well

Always found Remembrance Day a bit awkward. Can't say I feel strongly about honouring people who were employed to kill other people for Queen and country. It's not that I don't respect the people who are soldiers and obviously it's horrible that some themselves had to die, just that it feels a lot like glorifying war.

Zzonked wrote:Always found Remembrance Day a bit awkward. Can't say I feel strongly about honouring people who were employed to kill other people for Queen and country. It's not that I don't respect the people who are soldiers and obviously it's horrible that some themselves had to die, just that it feels a lot like glorifying war.

It's a sign of respect.

Zzonked wrote:Always found Remembrance Day a bit awkward. Can't say I feel strongly about honouring people who were employed to kill other people for Queen and country. It's not that I don't respect the people who are soldiers and obviously it's horrible that some themselves had to die, just that it feels a lot like glorifying war.

This post is magnificent.

Exactly my thoughts.

Zzonked wrote:Always found Remembrance Day a bit awkward. Can't say I feel strongly about honouring people who were employed to kill other people for Queen and country. It's not that I don't respect the people who are soldiers and obviously it's horrible that some themselves had to die, just that it feels a lot like glorifying war.

The only ones I can feel a bit of respect for are the ones who fought in the World Wars. I prefer calling it Armistice Day because that's a much better reason for a holiday.

Zzonked wrote:Always found Remembrance Day a bit awkward. Can't say I feel strongly about honouring people who were employed to kill other people for Queen and country. It's not that I don't respect the people who are soldiers and obviously it's horrible that some themselves had to die, just that it feels a lot like glorifying war.

Showing respect to people who died defending our country or fighting for our country isn't the same as glorifying war.

I farted as loud as I could during the minutes silence.

Cam wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Always found Remembrance Day a bit awkward. Can't say I feel strongly about honouring people who were employed to kill other people for Queen and country. It's not that I don't respect the people who are soldiers and obviously it's horrible that some themselves had to die, just that it feels a lot like glorifying war.

Showing respect to people who died defending our country or fighting for our country isn't the same as glorifying war.

Depends on what war they fought in.

SBSP wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Always found Remembrance Day a bit awkward. Can't say I feel strongly about honouring people who were employed to kill other people for Queen and country. It's not that I don't respect the people who are soldiers and obviously it's horrible that some themselves had to die, just that it feels a lot like glorifying war.

The only ones I can feel a bit of respect for are the ones who fought in the World Wars. I prefer calling it Armistice Day because that's a much better reason for a holiday.

That's a fair point. Those are the only two recent wars that actually did need to happen and should have happened.

Cam wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Always found Remembrance Day a bit awkward. Can't say I feel strongly about honouring people who were employed to kill other people for Queen and country. It's not that I don't respect the people who are soldiers and obviously it's horrible that some themselves had to die, just that it feels a lot like glorifying war.

Showing respect to people who died defending our country or fighting for our country isn't the same as glorifying war.

I guess I just don't think they deserve more respect than everyone else who has died young. I respect them as people, but I don't respect the job or institution. I don't think fighting for our country is an admirable cause.

James McLean is an arrogant little prick

wellz wrote:James McLean is an arrogant little prick

Why?

SBSP wrote:The only ones I can feel a bit of respect for are the ones who fought in the World Wars. I prefer calling it Armistice Day because that's a much better reason for a holiday.

This, everything apart from that is sickening

They are allowed to do whatever they want, I just don't really see the beef with O'Shea and McClean when their countries created more deaths between eachother then Bloody Sunday ever did. McClean's also representing Ireland when he's Northern Irish, what a joke

Because he had the audacity to have a little twitter temper tantrum after not getting an ROI start

wellz wrote:Because he had the audacity to have a little twitter temper tantrum after not getting an ROI call up

No, the Poppy is a British symbol not an Irish one

James, who?

Templeton7|RFC wrote:James, who?

McClean.

It says it in the thread title.

ahlycotc wrote:

Cam wrote:

Showing respect to people who died defending our country or fighting for our country isn't the same as glorifying war.

Depends on what war they fought in.

No it doesn't.

He is a nobody, further shown through his immaturity when he didn't get picked for the national squad. He decided to take to Twitter and express his feelings towards the manager in a bitter manner. He couldn't accept the fact that he just isn't good enough so decided to bitch about the manager and tell everyone how he is wrong. Hmm son ... I'm sure a manager with over 40 years in management knows more than a kid like you.

Templeton7|RFC wrote:He is a nobody, further shown through his immaturity when he didn't get picked for the national squad. He decided to take to Twitter and express his feelings towards the manager in a bitter manner. He couldn't accept the fact that he just isn't good enough so decided to bitch about the manager and tell everyone how he is wrong. Hmm son ... I'm sure a manager with over 40 years in management knows more than a kid like you.

He is good enough, Trap is just an idiot at times.

Some thick cunts on this forum.

He would have got just as much stick from wearing it from the Irish. Personally I don't really mind if people wear them, I think people like McClean who don't wear them have justified reasons but so too do those who wear them.

Don't care, will never take part myself. If I didn't live at home I'd open all of the windows and our the stereo on full when the minute silence is about to start.

AndItsKoren! wrote:Don't care, will never take part myself. If I didn't live at home I'd open all of the windows and our the stereo on full when the minute silence is about to start.

Sick you kid.