Did you know it's illegal to lie about your attendances?

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Bogdan wrote:Mick is right, you are wrong. Betrayal is to go against whatever follows. So betraying illegitimacy would be to go against it, making it legitimate.

Mick agrees that what I said makes sense you fuckwit. You don't know the secondary definition of 'betray.' Read a fucking book.

Mick's right about betraying your feelings is exposing them, you said betraying illegitimacy, not feelings

Bogdan wrote:

ConorCelticFC wrote:

You're embarrassing yourself. To betray something is to unwillingly expose it. You are clearly not familiar with this sense of the word 'betray.'

Definition:

1. To be false or disloyal to.
2. To reveal against one's desire or will.

You are applying the first, and incorrect, definition of 'betray' to my sentence.

The second definition is pointless, because to reveal something against one's desire or will is a scenario of being disloyal/committing betrayal (or going against).

Jesus. I'm going to try to be nice about this. Unwillingly revealing something is not 'a scenario of being disloyal.' It's a scenario of unwillingly revealing something. In this context, Jela's letter unwillingly betrayed its illegitimacy by containing an error. Just man up and admit you didn't know that betray could be used in this context.

Bogdan wrote:

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Mick agrees that what I said makes sense you fuckwit. You don't know the secondary definition of 'betray.' Read a fucking book.

Mick's right about betraying your feelings is exposing them, you said betraying illegitimacy, not feelings

He was using feelings as an example to make it easier for fuckwits like you to understand. He agrees that what I said makes sense.

I would have thought Scuba Steve would be man enough to admit he was wrong if not Bogdan.

Dan wrote:

MickStupp wrote:
If it's an estimate, then surely that's not lying.

If you don't say it's an estimate, technically it is lying.

Who cares though?

Yeah, I suppose so.

I don't know Just wasn't sure what was implied.

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Bogdan wrote:The second definition is pointless, because to reveal something against one's desire or will is a scenario of being disloyal/committing betrayal (or going against).

Jesus. I'm going to try to be nice about this. Unwillingly revealing something is not 'a scenario of being disloyal.' It's a scenario of unwillingly revealing something. In this context, Jela's letter unwillingly betrayed its illegitimacy by containing an error. Just man up and admit you didn't know that betray could be used in this context.

Oh my god, you're making up definitions now, it doesn't say betrayal is unwillingly revealing something, it's revealing something against someone's wishes. When you betray YOUR feelings you do it unwillingly. Your RR act is pretty bad, at least he had some intelligence to back it up.

Bogdan. This is cringeworthy. I'm right. Even Scuba Steve realizes this now. There is no way you can spin this that lets you come out on top, because there was nothing wrong with my sentence.

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Scuba Steve wrote:
Betray isn't synonymous with expose though. To betray something is to be disloyal to it. So if you say that you betraying illegitimacy, that means you are disloyal to the illegitimacy, and therefore legitimizing it. I get what you were trying to say, but I think 'betraying it's legitimacy' would have made more sense.

You're embarrassing yourself. To betray something is to unwillingly expose it. You are clearly not familiar with this sense of the word 'betray.'

Definition:

1. To be false or disloyal to.
2. To reveal against one's desire or will.

You are applying the first, and incorrect, definition of 'betray' to my sentence.

I can't imagine that I'm embarrassing myself. You yourself have posted the definition of betray that backs up my claim. So I can't possibly be wrong. If you are claiming your definition works in this case, then fine. But as you have proved, that doesn't make me wrong.

I just thought I would weigh in with a Bela Lugosi quote at this point.

“If my accent betrayed my foreign birth, it also stamped me as an enemy, in the imagination of the producers.”

In other words, his accent gave away his foreign birth. Just like the error in Jela's letter gave away its illegitimacy. Still no apology from Steve though.

Scuba Steve wrote:

ConorCelticFC wrote:

You're embarrassing yourself. To betray something is to unwillingly expose it. You are clearly not familiar with this sense of the word 'betray.'

Definition:

1. To be false or disloyal to.
2. To reveal against one's desire or will.

You are applying the first, and incorrect, definition of 'betray' to my sentence.

I can't imagine that I'm embarrassing myself. You yourself have posted the definition of betray that backs up my claim. So I can't possibly be wrong. If you are claiming your definition works in this case, then fine. But as you have proved, that doesn't make me wrong.

You were wrong to say there was something wrong with my sentence. Of course betray also has another definition but it wasn't the one I was using.

So... what is this thread about?

I thought Steve was an honest blue-collar American who could admit when he was wrong. Clearly I misjudged him.

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Scuba Steve wrote:
I can't imagine that I'm embarrassing myself. You yourself have posted the definition of betray that backs up my claim. So I can't possibly be wrong. If you are claiming your definition works in this case, then fine. But as you have proved, that doesn't make me wrong.

You were wrong to say there was something wrong with my sentence. Of course betray also has another definition but it wasn't the one I was using.

I'm not sure why you are saying that I said youwere wrong. I stated a couple of opinions that clearly disagreed with you, but I never accused you of being wrong.

ConorCelticFC wrote:I thought Steve was an honest blue-collar American who could admit when he was wrong. Clearly I misjudged him.

Even more confusing. Again your post backed up my claim. How does that make me wrong. I have zero issues admitting to something when I am wrong, but even you disagreed with the notion that I wrong.

You clearly thought that I had misused the term 'betray.'

Scuba Steve wrote:
Betray isn't synonymous with expose though. To betray something is to be disloyal to it. So if you say that you betraying illegitimacy, that means you are disloyal to the illegitimacy, and therefore legitimizing it. I get what you were trying to say, but I think 'betraying it's legitimacy' would have made more sense.

You claimed that 'betraying its legitimacy' would have made more sense, when in fact it would have made no sense at all.

As for Bogdan...

Again, first definition. To be false or disloyal to something illegitimate would make it legitimate (double negative). So to make that a positive (to mean illegitimate), betraying legitimacy would make perfect sense. And I clearly didn't think that you misused it. First I asked for clarification, secondly I gave my opinion. Hence the term 'I thibk' in my post.

OK, so basically you agree that what I said makes sense, but you maintain that you did nothing wrong in initially claiming that it didn't make sense? Though I can see that what you said was closer to asking clarification than Bogdan, who when it comes to logic is the equivalent of a bull in a china shop. But on that last thing, 'betrays its legitimacy' would technically make sense but it's very awkward. It certainly doesn't make 'more sense' than my original sentence as you claimed.

Go outside.

You've been in school all day and are now yourself inside.

I'm with Steve, I'll admit I'm wrong when I actually am. I think conor is just trolling at this point.

Who gives a shit?


Guess which definition of 'shit' I used there...

The type that comes out of the asshole? Not sure if srs.

You are correct. I hope you feel embarrassed by that.

Every time I see this thread still on the first page...

Dan wrote:You are correct. I hope you feel embarrassed by that.

Shit does usually embarass me.

A grammar argument ??

Yes I do know.