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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:35 am

    Since everyone else is making them, I thought I might as well.

    Anyway, the trio of Eagles at Dortmund are hot. Kuba, Lewa and Piszczek all doing well. Kuba is fighting for first place on the wing and is close to winning it IMO, Piszczek has proven he should start at Right Back, and Lewa is scoring nonstop every other game from when he comes on.

    The Chemistry there is beautiful.


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    Post by Mario Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:36 am

    Dudek. Neutral
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:36 am

    Kuba and the whole Dortmund team. The Polish Football Thread 914411
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:38 am

    Lol, how has Dudek been at Real? I hear nothing of him lately.
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    Post by Mario Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:51 am

    (polskaGOLA) wrote:Lol, how has Dudek been at Real? I hear nothing of him lately.

    He doesn´t play, not even in the cup. Laughing
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    Post by Cornholio Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:56 am

    I was gutted when Dudek left.

    Then I wasn't.
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:01 pm

    Meh, he's probably gonna stick around Real and become a coach or something.
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:05 pm

    Kuszczak for number 1 when VDS retires.

    We have to at least give him a chance after he's been so patient.
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    Post by Danny Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:07 pm

    Kuszczak > all Neutral
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:12 pm

    Lol, the way Polish Media have been painting it, if United sign some world class keeper in the summer, Kuszczak is going to snap and go on a rampage. Laughing

    I do hope Kuszczak becomes #1 at United, he is the only keeper I like out of the whole bunch, and the only one who isn't mistake prone, idiotic and consistent (Unlike Tyton, Pawelek, Przyrowski, Boruc, Fabianski and Kazmierczak) and the only one of the bunch left that is proven (Szczesny and Sandomierski)
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:19 pm

    If we do sign a new keeper to start, then I don't blame him for leaving, he deserves to play.
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:20 pm

    All Polish players should have a nickname like Kuba. Save people the trouble of figuring out how to spell their names.
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:48 pm

    Laughing

    In all honesty, most of these names are fairly simple, straightforward Polish names.

    I mean there is someone in Lechia Gdansk's academy with the name Bartlomiej Chalaczakrzychowski. eek
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    Post by Lux Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:27 pm

    Rei wrote:All Polish players should have a nickname like Kuba. Save people the trouble of figuring out how to spell their names.

    Just add "ski" to the end, that's the official rule of anything Polish.
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:38 pm

    Dortmund The Polish Football Thread 644235 Sahin The Polish Football Thread 644235 Barrios The Polish Football Thread 644235


    I only like them cos I had a fun FM with them last year. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:38 pm

    Here is 2 for ya

    Klose, Podoloski
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:45 pm

    Luxz0rz wrote:
    Rei wrote:All Polish players should have a nickname like Kuba. Save people the trouble of figuring out how to spell their names.

    Just add "ski" to the end, that's the official rule of anything Polish.

    Not really, alot and alot of names don't use -ski ending.

    James wrote:Here is 2 for ya

    Klose, Podoloski

    Only Podolski is really Polish. Klose is a fucking German who doesn't give a shit bout Poland.
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    Post by Jordi Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:47 pm

    Rasiak, Saganowski, and Bialkowski not worthy
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:55 pm

    How is Bialkowski for you guys?
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    Post by Jordi Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:58 pm

    (polskaGOLA) wrote:How is Bialkowski for you guys?

    Cracking 'keeper, but he's our no. 2 atm because of Davis, but he'll be first choice soon, I know it.
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    Post by Lux Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:03 am

    (polskaGOLA) wrote:Not really, alot and alot of names don't use -ski ending.

    tut tut Don't lie to me boy, when you go down snowy hills you call it skiski
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    Post by Marvin Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:09 am

    Is Kieszek any good and what happened to Kazmierczak? Neutral
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    Post by Guest Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:17 am

    coolmarvin wrote:Is Kieszek any good and what happened to Kazmierczak? Neutral

    I don't know, I've never really seen them play tbh. I don't think they are good enough for Poland though.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:58 am

    I renamed the thread to be more approprite for what I will post here.

    An article I will translate myself is coming up. Very Happy
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    Polska liga coraz szybciej goni Europę

    Wraz z rozwojem stadionów w Polsce rośnie liczba widzów, którzy oglądają mecze Ekstraklasy. Frekwencja na meczach już teraz wygląda przyzwoicie, a przecież wciąż niektóre obiekty nie są ukończone. Dotąd nieosiągalne ligi są na wyciągnięcie ręki.

    Obecnie średnia widzów na meczach polskiej Ekstraklasy to 8450 kibiców na danym meczu. Ale powyżej tej liczby jest tylko sześć klubów (Legia - 18800, Lech - 18600, Wisła - 12200, Korona -11200, Widzew - 9400, Górnik - 9200). Zdecydowanie najsłabszą frekwencję ma Arka (3100), ale nie wynika to z braku popularności, lecz konieczności grania na małym stadionie. Lidera Ekstraklasy - Jagiellonię Białystok ogląda przeciętnie 5800 widzów, którzy również czekają na nowy, większy obiekt. To tylko przykłady pokazujące, że potencjał kibicowski jest dużo większy, niż wskazują obecne statystyki.Taka liczba widzów daje Polsce 23. miejsce na świecie. Kogo wyprzedzamy? Choćby ligę norweską (średnio 8000), grecką (6900), duńska (6600), szwedzką (6500), rumuńską (5400) czy włoską Serie B (5000). Mecze ligi czeskiej ogląda średnio 4500 widzów. To dość charakterystyczna liczba, bo tylu kibiców chodziło na mecze Ekstraklasy w połowie lat 90. Od tamtego okresu frekwencja na polskich stadionach niemal się podwoiła.22. miejsce może zostać bardzo szybko poprawione. Hiszpańska druga liga (8600), austriacka (8700) czy ukraińska (9500) są w zasięgu ręki, być może już nawet w tym sezonie, kiedy na wiosnę pojemność polskich obiektów będzie większa. Kolejnym krokiem powinno być doścignięcie rozgrywek, gdzie frekwencja oscyluje wokół 11 tysięcy (portugalska, szwajcarska, belgijska, rosyjska) oraz 13-14 tysięcy (szkocka, 2.Bundesliga, brazylijska).Niedoścignionym wzorem, nie tylko dla polskiej ligi, wciąż pozostaje Bundesliga (średnio 42435). Za nią znajduje się angielska Premier League (34600). Trzecie miejsce ma hiszpańska Primera Division (28500).


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    Polish League quickly catching up to the European Elite

    The development of many new stadiums in Poland has been followed with quickly rising attendances. Attendances at Ekstraklasa matches now look decent, and this is with a few clubs still without fully completed stadiums.

    Currently, the average attendance in the Polish Ekstraklasa this season is 8,450 per match. 6 clubs have attendances higher than the average, these are Legia Warszawa at 18,800, Lech Poznan at 18,600, Wisla Krakow at 12,200, Korona Kielce at 11,200, Widzew Lodz at 9400 and Gornik Zabrze at 9200. However, the lowest average attendance in the Ekstraklasa belongs to Arka Gdynia whom have averaged a lowly 3100 per game. Although, this is not due to the lack of popularity of the club, this is due to the renovation of the stadium from the original 12,000 seats to 15,000 which will be completed in Fall 2010. This renovation has made most of the Home Stand unusable and currently Arka supporters sit in the away fans stand. Likewise with top of the table title contenders Jagiellonia Bialystok, who have sold out almost every game with 6000 fans and having averaged 5,800 throughout the season. Jagiellonia's stadium only sits 6000 at the moment, but it is in the process of being renovated to hold 22,500 seats with an expansion capacity of over 30k in the future. These two examples are only two of several more which negatively influence the leagues average attendance, in reality the interest in Ekstraklasa games may be quite a bit higher than current averages indicate.

    In the international front, Poland's Ekstraklasa league with the official average attendance number sits at 23rd in number of viewers in the footballing world. This is ahead of several other leagues in Europe (Norway (average 8000), Greece (6900), Denmark (6600), Sweden (6500), Romania (5400) and Italian Serie B (5000). Our neighbors, Czech Republic, only sees an average of 4500 per match, The Czech's average of 4500 was a typical number for the Polish league in the 1990's, since then, the turnout has almost doubled.


    The 22nd place and perhaps higher in the world seems to also be easily achievable for Poland. Our competition is the Spanish Segunda Division (8600), Austria (8700), and Ukraine (9500), which are all in easy reach of Poland, and will all perhaps be below Poland come Spring time when interest heats up during the title race, and with stadiums being completed. After these countries, Poland's objectives should be to match leagues where attendances fluctuate but average around 11,000 like Portugal, Switzerland, Belgium and Russia and ones that average around 13-14k, such as Scotland, Germany's 2. Bundesliga and Brazil.

    Elsewhere in Europe, Germany still reigns king of the average attendance figures, capping a high average of 42,435. Behind it is the English Premier League whom average a significantly lower, but still very high nonetheless 34,600 and Spanish La Liga whom cap an average of 28,500.

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    I translated this myself. Keep in mind that I have difficulty reading and writing in Polish so this is quite an accomplishment on my part. Smile

    I also added some of my own parts (going more indepth in the stadium situation with Arka and Jagiellonia) and completely rephrased/redid sentences and paragraphs keeping the same idea but for it to make sense in English.

    I posted the article because it was a good one describing Poland's attendance situation and I felt like sharing.
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    Post by Danny Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:41 am

    I got bored after reading the title Neutral
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    Post by Pippo Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:42 am

    Hows Manuel Arboleda doing?
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:43 am

    All Polish names sound like STD's.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:44 am

    Danny B wrote:I got bored after reading the title Neutral

    English football bores me as well, (unless it's Arsenal, Everton or Blackpool) but you don't see me complaining. Neutral

    Forest, our names do not sound like STD's. Neutral

    And Pip, Arboleda is doing good as usual. There is still talk of him joining our NT which I hope doesn't happen regardless of our shitty shitty back 4 situation.
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    Polska liga coraz szybciej goni Europę

    Wraz z rozwojem stadionów w Polsce rośnie liczba widzów, którzy oglądają mecze Ekstraklasy. Frekwencja na meczach już teraz wygląda przyzwoicie, a przecież wciąż niektóre obiekty nie są ukończone. Dotąd nieosiągalne ligi są na wyciągnięcie ręki.

    Obecnie średnia widzów na meczach polskiej Ekstraklasy to 8450 kibiców na danym meczu. Ale powyżej tej liczby jest tylko sześć klubów (Legia - 18800, Lech - 18600, Wisła - 12200, Korona -11200, Widzew - 9400, Górnik - 9200). Zdecydowanie najsłabszą frekwencję ma Arka (3100), ale nie wynika to z braku popularności, lecz konieczności grania na małym stadionie. Lidera Ekstraklasy - Jagiellonię Białystok ogląda przeciętnie 5800 widzów, którzy również czekają na nowy, większy obiekt. To tylko przykłady pokazujące, że potencjał kibicowski jest dużo większy, niż wskazują obecne statystyki.Taka liczba widzów daje Polsce 23. miejsce na świecie. Kogo wyprzedzamy? Choćby ligę norweską (średnio 8000), grecką (6900), duńska (6600), szwedzką (6500), rumuńską (5400) czy włoską Serie B (5000). Mecze ligi czeskiej ogląda średnio 4500 widzów. To dość charakterystyczna liczba, bo tylu kibiców chodziło na mecze Ekstraklasy w połowie lat 90. Od tamtego okresu frekwencja na polskich stadionach niemal się podwoiła.22. miejsce może zostać bardzo szybko poprawione. Hiszpańska druga liga (8600), austriacka (8700) czy ukraińska (9500) są w zasięgu ręki, być może już nawet w tym sezonie, kiedy na wiosnę pojemność polskich obiektów będzie większa. Kolejnym krokiem powinno być doścignięcie rozgrywek, gdzie frekwencja oscyluje wokół 11 tysięcy (portugalska, szwajcarska, belgijska, rosyjska) oraz 13-14 tysięcy (szkocka, 2.Bundesliga, brazylijska).Niedoścignionym wzorem, nie tylko dla polskiej ligi, wciąż pozostaje Bundesliga (średnio 42435). Za nią znajduje się angielska Premier League (34600). Trzecie miejsce ma hiszpańska Primera Division (28500).


    Translated by yours truly.

    Polish League quickly catching up to the European Elite

    The development of many new stadiums in Poland has been followed with quickly rising attendances. Attendances at Ekstraklasa matches now look decent, and this is with a few clubs still without fully completed stadiums.

    Currently, the average attendance in the Polish Ekstraklasa this season is 8,450 per match. 6 clubs have attendances higher than the average, these are Legia Warszawa at 18,800, Lech Poznan at 18,600, Wisla Krakow at 12,200, Korona Kielce at 11,200, Widzew Lodz at 9400 and Gornik Zabrze at 9200. However, the lowest average attendance in the Ekstraklasa belongs to Arka Gdynia whom have averaged a lowly 3100 per game. Although, this is not due to the lack of popularity of the club, this is due to the renovation of the stadium from the original 12,000 seats to 15,000 which will be completed in Fall 2010. This renovation has made most of the Home Stand unusable and currently Arka supporters sit in the away fans stand. Likewise with top of the table title contenders Jagiellonia Bialystok, who have sold out almost every game with 6000 fans and having averaged 5,800 throughout the season. Jagiellonia's stadium only sits 6000 at the moment, but it is in the process of being renovated to hold 22,500 seats with an expansion capacity of over 30k in the future. These two examples are only two of several more which negatively influence the leagues average attendance, in reality the interest in Ekstraklasa games may be quite a bit higher than current averages indicate.

    In the international front, Poland's Ekstraklasa league with the official average attendance number sits at 23rd in number of viewers in the footballing world. This is ahead of several other leagues in Europe (Norway (average 8000), Greece (6900), Denmark (6600), Sweden (6500), Romania (5400) and Italian Serie B (5000). Our neighbors, Czech Republic, only sees an average of 4500 per match, The Czech's average of 4500 was a typical number for the Polish league in the 1990's, since then, the turnout has almost doubled.


    The 22nd place and perhaps higher in the world seems to also be easily achievable for Poland. Our competition is the Spanish Segunda Division (8600), Austria (8700), and Ukraine (9500), which are all in easy reach of Poland, and will all perhaps be below Poland come Spring time when interest heats up during the title race, and with stadiums being completed. After these countries, Poland's objectives should be to match leagues where attendances fluctuate but average around 11,000 like Portugal, Switzerland, Belgium and Russia and ones that average around 13-14k, such as Scotland, Germany's 2. Bundesliga and Brazil.

    Elsewhere in Europe, Germany still reigns king of the average attendance figures, capping a high average of 42,435. Behind it is the English Premier League whom average a significantly lower, but still very high nonetheless 34,600 and Spanish La Liga whom cap an average of 28,500.

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    I translated this myself. Keep in mind that I have difficulty reading and writing in Polish so this is quite an accomplishment on my part. Smile

    I also added some of my own parts (going more indepth in the stadium situation with Arka and Jagiellonia) and completely rephrased/redid sentences and paragraphs keeping the same idea but for it to make sense in English.

    I posted the article because it was a good one describing Poland's attendance situation and I felt like sharing.

    Bumping because of new page. Neutral

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