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Eden Hazard revealing who he's joining after Lille match
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A dick, Eden Hazard is.
iSamuel-
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Yoda wrote:A dick, Eden Hazard is.
Phadunkin Donuts-
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iSamuel wrote:Hatersgonhate.
Chelsea Legend.
Can't believe since your support in 04', so much has happened. Lucky you.
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iSamuel wrote:Hatersgonhate.
Hategonhaters.
ResurrectionRooney-
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ViVaRooney wrote:in that scenario sure its not fair cause that effects ONE guy, if he leaves someone else can come in and do the same thing
No they can't, be's a phenomenal barman.
but something like football its totally different. it effects the club selling alot more ways then just losing one player. not to mention this asset that leaves can play against you.. so i still think its fair that if you have a contract with a club you cant leave unless the club lets you. again after the first contract signing dont extend the contract if you feel like you want to have freedom about where you go. signing an extension then 6 months later wanting to leave is your fault and yours only
The bar man is working for the Black Bull, which is a rival pub to the Fox and Grapes. That will harm the Fox and Grapes' business.
If you don't sign the extension you don't get paid a fair amount for your services - what are you supposed to do?
nowadays players can leave whenever they want pretty much anyway. and please dont you dare say slavery again, i cant even begin to explain how retarded that comment is. ronaldo said something similar and was rightly ridiculed
It is slavery - if no-one will pay to free them they are kept in places against their will and forced to do things that they don't like, by crude businessmen who only care about one thing - money. The best example is Luka Modric, he got forced to stay at Tottenham against his will and was forced to play for Tottenham despite the fact that the Daniel 'Devious' Levy had agreed to let him go if a big club came in for him.
I don't want to bring religion into this, but you would think a man with Daniel Levy's religion and heritage wouldn't want anything to do with keeping people in places against their will and doing things to people that they don't like, but even he did it, so what hope has any footballer got?
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I think all football contracts should include a release fee clause. Either the player or a club has to pay the release fee amount for the player to leave.
ResurrectionRooney-
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ahlycotc wrote:I think all football contracts should include a release fee clause. Either the player or a club has to pay the release fee amount for the player to leave.
In Spain, this is the law, but the clubs often insist on making the release clause entirely unrealistic. Cristiano Ronaldo's is a billion Euro I believe.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:in that scenario sure its not fair cause that effects ONE guy, if he leaves someone else can come in and do the same thing
No they can't, be's a phenomenal barman.
but something like football its totally different. it effects the club selling alot more ways then just losing one player. not to mention this asset that leaves can play against you.. so i still think its fair that if you have a contract with a club you cant leave unless the club lets you. again after the first contract signing dont extend the contract if you feel like you want to have freedom about where you go. signing an extension then 6 months later wanting to leave is your fault and yours only
The bar man is working for the Black Bull, which is a rival pub to the Fox and Grapes. That will harm the Fox and Grapes' business.
If you don't sign the extension you don't get paid a fair amount for your services - what are you supposed to do?
nowadays players can leave whenever they want pretty much anyway. and please dont you dare say slavery again, i cant even begin to explain how retarded that comment is. ronaldo said something similar and was rightly ridiculed
It is slavery - if no-one will pay to free them they are kept in places against their will and forced to do things that they don't like, by crude businessmen who only care about one thing - money. The best example is Luka Modric, he got forced to stay at Tottenham against his will and was forced to play for Tottenham despite the fact that the Daniel 'Devious' Levy had agreed to let him go if a big club came in for him.
I don't want to bring religion into this, but you would think a man with Daniel Levy's religion and heritage wouldn't want anything to do with keeping people in places against their will and doing things to people that they don't like, but even he did it, so what hope has any footballer got?
forced to do things they dont like?? wtf you on about.. they are playing football i didnt know slavery was so luxurious, i dont feel so bad for the black people all those years ago now, they got shit load of money back then to do what they love to do huh
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ViVaRooney wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:
No they can't, be's a phenomenal barman.
The bar man is working for the Black Bull, which is a rival pub to the Fox and Grapes. That will harm the Fox and Grapes' business.
If you don't sign the extension you don't get paid a fair amount for your services - what are you supposed to do?
It is slavery - if no-one will pay to free them they are kept in places against their will and forced to do things that they don't like, by crude businessmen who only care about one thing - money. The best example is Luka Modric, he got forced to stay at Tottenham against his will and was forced to play for Tottenham despite the fact that the Daniel 'Devious' Levy had agreed to let him go if a big club came in for him.
I don't want to bring religion into this, but you would think a man with Daniel Levy's religion and heritage wouldn't want anything to do with keeping people in places against their will and doing things to people that they don't like, but even he did it, so what hope has any footballer got?
forced to do things they dont like?? wtf you on about.. they are playing football i didnt know slavery was so luxurious, i dont feel so bad for the black people all those years ago now, they got shit load of money back then to do what they love to do huh
Yeah, they are forced to play for a football team that they don't want to - I believe the interests of workers should be put above the interests of wealthy corporations. It's akin to slavery because they aren't allowed to freely ply their trade. If the slaves you mention were given a shitload of money but still were forced to come onto the plantation every day they'd still be slaves.
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but how is it slavery when said player can quit football.. when said player chose to be in that situation..
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ViVaRooney wrote:but how is it slavery when said player can quit football.. when said player chose to be in that situation..
Quitting football is not a realistic proposition, if he does his former club can sue him for breach of contract to his transfer value. A sum he has no chance of paying within his lifetime unless he offers himself into slavery at another football club. He chose to be in the situation, but that's the only way he could get paid what he deserves for plying his trade, because all football clubs behave in that way.
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but again, they could go to college/university, get an education and work like everyone else if they feel they are slaves. no one forces them to play football
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ViVaRooney wrote:but again, they could go to college/university, get an education and work like everyone else if they feel they are slaves. no one forces them to play football
He wants to play football because it's what he's best at, the system is grossly unfair though. If he goes to college/university he's probably never going to be out of debt to his football club because he probably won't earn €40m in his lifetime.
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but he doesnt have to get into football(so wont need to quit).. he knows the system. or he could quit after his contract is up but again the situation has never changed so he wouldnt get into it anyway if he felts like it was slavery
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ViVaRooney wrote:but he doesnt have to get into football(so wont need to quit).. he knows the system. or he could quit after his contract is up but again the situation has never changed so he wouldnt get into it anyway if he felts like it was slavery
He doesn't have much choice really, does he? The club snares him when he's in his early teens, at the latest, he has little or no education as a result of that and he's been promised vast amounts of wealth since a young age. Nobody is going to go off to college or university after that in order to get a normal job no matter how unfair the system is that they're going into.
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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1082536/eden-hazard-is-chelsea-bound-for-the-right-reasons?cc=5739
Think everyone should read this before putting a label on Hazard as Greedy, Arrogant, a Mercenary, or anything like that.
Think everyone should read this before putting a label on Hazard as Greedy, Arrogant, a Mercenary, or anything like that.
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tl;don't care
luke.-
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That's funny, because by writing that you assume that I care about what you think. Wrong.
Phadunkin Donuts-
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That's funny, because by writing that you assume that I care about what you think. Wrong.
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luke. wrote:http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1082536/eden-hazard-is-chelsea-bound-for-the-right-reasons?cc=5739
Think everyone should read this before putting a label on Hazard as Greedy, Arrogant, a Mercenary, or anything like that.
I think you should read my article below before taking your next breath:
Luke: Lick my balls
30 April 2012
by menalawyerguy
Lick my balls, Luke.
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That article sucks with so much misleading shit like..
lol... obviously he wants a decent career also..
If he was interested in money he would have gone to Russia or china
lol... obviously he wants a decent career also..
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Fonseca wrote:That article sucks with so much misleading shit like..
If he was interested in money he would have gone to Russia or china
lol... obviously he wants a decent career also..
Like City couldn't match the wages the Russian and Chinese clubs could afford too.
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That's not exactly misleading.
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Eden Hazard has made a u-turn on his Chelsea move. He's now joining a dairy farm seeing as he's so good at milking:
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Slavery. Don't be ridiculous. It's a contract Modric had a very good look at, likely with an agent, and signed knowing full well the terms and conditions. If he decides he's done with that club before the time is up he can hand in a request to leave, if rejected then he can make like Tevez.
Footballers don't get forced to play football. They agree to it in lucrative deals. Anyone arguing otherwise, including Ronaldo, is quite obviously bullshitting.
Footballers don't get forced to play football. They agree to it in lucrative deals. Anyone arguing otherwise, including Ronaldo, is quite obviously bullshitting.
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N wrote:iSamuel wrote:Hatersgonhate.
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Can't believe since your support in 04', so much has happened. Lucky you.
91', actually.
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ricky//habana wrote:Slavery. Don't be ridiculous. It's a contract Modric had a very good look at, likely with an agent, and signed knowing full well the terms and conditions. If he decides he's done with that club before the time is up he can hand in a request to leave, if rejected then he can make like Tevez.
Footballers don't get forced to play football. They agree to it in lucrative deals. Anyone arguing otherwise, including Ronaldo, is quite obviously bullshitting.
He did request to leave, in fact he had a pre-existing gentleman's agreement with Daniel Levy that he would be allowed to leave if a big club came in for him. Daniel Levy isn't a gentleman though, he's a bastard, and if Modric had made like Tevez he would have sued him for breach of contract to the value of his transfer fee.
Luka Modric does not have a choice about whether to play football unless he can pay Tottenham his own transfer value. Granted, he signed an agreement with Tottenham, but he had no choice but to sign a long contract with a club if he was to be paid what he is worth. The industry is extremely weighted in favour of the clubs, in no other industry would this sort of thing be allowed.
Nobody should be held somewhere against their will and barred from plying their trade on the basis of a contract they signed several years ago, regardless of how much they're earning.
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Think he's a beast myself.Zzonked wrote:Chris wrote:
Why?
Can see him costing a lot more than he's worth and I don't really rate him.