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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:41 am

    kyro7 wrote:Losing the title on GD must feel really bad, I wonder if we're going to have to experience that, generating the exact same number of points as a team and losing the title, crazy to think about.
    That Johnny Evans red card is looking even more costly by the minute.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:42 am

    Bogdan wrote:I'm sure City will draw one of their remaining fixtures.
    Of course you are, Sir Dagbon.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:43 am

    Glen Damon wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Losing the title on GD must feel really bad, I wonder if we're going to have to experience that, generating the exact same number of points as a team and losing the title, crazy to think about.
    That Johnny Evans red card is looking even more costly by the minute.
    Yeah, 10 goals difference that game made, behind by 7, though we did take apart a poor Arsenal side to be fair.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:45 am

    I wish I could moan about being joint top of the League with 2 games to go.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue May 01, 2012 11:48 am

    ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:I wish I could moan about being joint top of the League with 2 games to go.

    And Grimsby fans wish they could moan about being in the Premier and Europa Leagues having owners who will give them millions of pounds every year for transfers, it didn't stop you bitching about Hicks and Gillet.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:50 am

    That's true. Doesn't mean I can't wish I was in United's position though.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:51 am

    You'll probably win the FA Cup final at least.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:52 am

    I'd like to think so, but Chelsea are in form.

    Champions League and FA Cup double for them, sadly. Sad
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:53 am

    kyro7 wrote:You'll probably win the FA Cup final at least.
    Don't talk daft, Kyro. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:55 am

    kyro7 wrote:Losing the title on GD must feel really bad, I wonder if we're going to have to experience that, generating the exact same number of points as a team and losing the title, crazy to think about.

    Try losing it in the last minute of the final game, and losing it only by goals scored.Cry

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    Post by Kuled Tue May 01, 2012 5:40 pm

    Last 4 performances have been so poor apart from the Villa game. What's missing? A leader. We needed Vidic so much.
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    Post by Kuled Tue May 01, 2012 6:06 pm

    Welbeck got injured Neutral
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue May 01, 2012 6:58 pm

    kyro7 wrote:Losing the title on GD must feel really bad, I wonder if we're going to have to experience that, generating the exact same number of points as a team and losing the title, crazy to think about.



    It's stupid that GD is the first tie-breaker anyway. Head-to-head should be the first tie-breaker. I think it is in pretty much every other major European league. It's certainly a fairer assessment of which team deserves the nod. So you can rest assured that even if you do lose on goal differential, you also would have lost on head-to-head. Either way...

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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 8:39 pm

    Kuled wrote:Last 4 performances have been so poor apart from the Villa game. What's missing? A leader. We needed Vidic so much.

    no shit

    its like if city were missing kompany, without kompany they look clueless.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue May 01, 2012 8:50 pm

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    I am deeply frustrated with Ferguson's behaviour, I needed a venue to express that frustration. If City fuck up the title from here that's their lookout, it's not something that Ferguson's responsible for, nor is it something he deserves any credit for.



    League titles are won over the course of 38 games; not the last 2. If his team earns the more points than everybody else from those 38, he deserves his share of the credit.
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 10:17 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Losing the title on GD must feel really bad, I wonder if we're going to have to experience that, generating the exact same number of points as a team and losing the title, crazy to think about.



    It's stupid that GD is the first tie-breaker anyway. Head-to-head should be the first tie-breaker. I think it is in pretty much every other major European league. It's certainly a fairer assessment of which team deserves the nod. So you can rest assured that even if you do lose on goal differential, you also would have lost on head-to-head. Either way...

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    I think they do it by head to head in the La Liga.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue May 01, 2012 10:21 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
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    I am deeply frustrated with Ferguson's behaviour, I needed a venue to express that frustration. If City fuck up the title from here that's their lookout, it's not something that Ferguson's responsible for, nor is it something he deserves any credit for.



    League titles are won over the course of 38 games; not the last 2. If his team earns the more points than everybody else from those 38, he deserves his share of the credit.

    This just highlights the absurdity of the way we credit managers and players. If Manchester City don't drop points to Newcastle United, does that make Ferguson a worse manager than if they did? Of course not.
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    Post by Kuled Tue May 01, 2012 10:44 pm

    Bit funny how RR comes after we bottle something so that he can rant on Fergie hehe
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue May 01, 2012 10:59 pm

    Kuled wrote:Bit funny how RR comes after we bottle something so that he can rant on Fergie hehe

    It's not bottling, we lost because Manchester City have a better team than us. It's a fucking disgrace the way Ferguson has let this team slide.
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    Post by Kuled Tue May 01, 2012 11:02 pm

    It's not Ferguson's fault that the team decided to go amateur in the last 7 minutes against Everton. That's the game we'll look back on if we do lose the title.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue May 01, 2012 11:10 pm

    Kuled wrote:It's not Ferguson's fault that the team decided to go amateur in the last 7 minutes against Everton. That's the game we'll look back on if we do lose the title.

    I thought Ferguson was supposed to a master motivator whose experience would prevent any amateur mistakes. It's easy to be a great manager when everything bad that happens you are absolved of responsibility and everything good that happens is down to your tactics or motivation.

    Can you defend the midfield policy we've pursued in the last 3 or 4 years?
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:13 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Kuled wrote:It's not Ferguson's fault that the team decided to go amateur in the last 7 minutes against Everton. That's the game we'll look back on if we do lose the title.

    I thought Ferguson was supposed to a master motivator whose experience would prevent any amateur mistakes.

    WTf you on about, fergie is not out there, he cant motivate in the middle of a half lol.. he sent them out after half timeand we went 4-2 ahead, after that its up to the players to be smart and see it out. if we had vidic out there we would have won

    you say "oh when things go bad you blame someone else but when things go well you praise fergie"... well you are the exact opposite, you do the same thing
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    Post by Kuled Tue May 01, 2012 11:17 pm

    You'd expect a team with this experience in this time of the run in to see out a 2 goal lead at home Neutral
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:23 pm

    exactly..

    but they fucked up and we all pay the price
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    Post by Guest Tue May 01, 2012 11:30 pm

    GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!!!

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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue May 01, 2012 11:42 pm

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    I thought Ferguson was supposed to a master motivator whose experience would prevent any amateur mistakes.

    WTf you on about, fergie is not out there, he cant motivate in the middle of a half lol.. he sent them out after half timeand we went 4-2 ahead, after that its up to the players to be smart and see it out. if we had vidic out there we would have won

    you say "oh when things go bad you blame someone else but when things go well you praise fergie"... well you are the exact opposite, you do the same thing

    Buck stops with him, he buys the players, he send them out there, he takes the credit whenever they do well.
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    Post by Laurencio Tue May 01, 2012 11:48 pm

    I've still not quite come to grips with how we drew against Everton. Not entirely sure how that happened, looked so comfortable, title looking pretty secure, and then as by a gust of wind, Everton hit back.
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    Post by Kuled Tue May 01, 2012 11:51 pm

    Laurencio wrote:I've still not quite come to grips with how we drew against Everton. Not entirely sure how that happened, looked so comfortable, title looking pretty secure, and then as by a gust of wind, Everton hit back.
    Is that you Cheesy?
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    Post by Laurencio Tue May 01, 2012 11:52 pm

    Kuled wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:I've still not quite come to grips with how we drew against Everton. Not entirely sure how that happened, looked so comfortable, title looking pretty secure, and then as by a gust of wind, Everton hit back.
    Is that you Cheesy?

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    Post by JamieB Wed May 02, 2012 1:06 am

    Well lads gotta move onto next season i suppose, no title for us :/


    Man City are guaranteed to win at Newcastle tbh so don't even think we have a chance now Neutral

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