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Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Guest Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:38 pm
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Andy Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:40 pm
Messi
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Ben 10 Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:47 pm
Ronaldo
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by easley91 Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:48 pm
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Hard to really say for sure.
Gut instinct would be Messi though...purely based on the way Barcelona are set up and Real Madrid's strikers.
Both score so many goals and occasionally carry the team....
Gut instinct would be Messi though...purely based on the way Barcelona are set up and Real Madrid's strikers.
Both score so many goals and occasionally carry the team....
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Theo Filippo Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:55 pm
Messi, Barcelona have nobody else who can play the false no.9 role anywhere near effectively, if Ronaldo was out for a few games they could easily fit someone else in.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Guest Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:56 pm
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:21 am
Both are so important to their respected teams, and the stats prove how important they both are.
Ronaldo 138 goals in 136 games.
Messi 161 goals and 60 assists in his last 159 Barca games.
I would find it very hard to pick one after reading those stats.
Ronaldo 138 goals in 136 games.
Messi 161 goals and 60 assists in his last 159 Barca games.
I would find it very hard to pick one after reading those stats.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:28 am
Without Messi Barca will still pass teams to death and have Pedro, Villa, Fabregas and Sanchez to score goals. I think Madrid even with Ronaldo would have trouble beating them.Theo Filippo wrote:Messi, Barcelona have nobody else who can play the false no.9 role anywhere near effectively, if Ronaldo was out for a few games they could easily fit someone else in.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by menalawyerguy Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:29 am
Messi is the most important player in the world bar none regardless of what team he's playing for. He's the best player in the world with the best attitude.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Theo Filippo Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:30 am
Pedro has been average this season, Villa is injured, Fabregas and Sanchez aren't goal machines, Messi doesn't have 23 assists or whatever for no reason his passing is massively underrated. Madrid still have Kaka, Ozil, Di Maria, Higuain, Benzema and even Callejon.Chris wrote:Without Messi Barca will still pass teams to death and have Pedro, Villa, Fabregas and Sanchez to score goals. I think Madrid even with Ronaldo would have trouble beating them.Theo Filippo wrote:Messi, Barcelona have nobody else who can play the false no.9 role anywhere near effectively, if Ronaldo was out for a few games they could easily fit someone else in.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by menalawyerguy Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:31 am
Chris wrote:Without Messi Barca will still pass teams to death and have Pedro, Villa, Fabregas and Sanchez to score goals. I think Madrid even with Ronaldo would have trouble beating them.Theo Filippo wrote:Messi, Barcelona have nobody else who can play the false no.9 role anywhere near effectively, if Ronaldo was out for a few games they could easily fit someone else in.
The Spanish NT is virtually Barca without Messi. They are still the best team in the world but they didn't score goals at the World Cup the way Barca scores goals against everybody. It's because they lacked the cutting edge to their attack that Messi gives them. If Messi was Spanish, Spain would have scored a lot more goals and the final would have been a boat race.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Harrold Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:41 am
menalawyerguy wrote:Chris wrote:Without Messi Barca will still pass teams to death and have Pedro, Villa, Fabregas and Sanchez to score goals. I think Madrid even with Ronaldo would have trouble beating them.
The Spanish NT is virtually Barca without Messi. They are still the best team in the world but they didn't score goals at the World Cup the way Barca scores goals against everybody. It's because they lacked the cutting edge to their attack that Messi gives them. If Messi was Spanish, Spain would have scored a lot more goals and the final would have been a boat race.
Messi could have played for Spain, I think.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Danny Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:41 am
He could have done yes, but so what?Harrold wrote:menalawyerguy wrote:
The Spanish NT is virtually Barca without Messi. They are still the best team in the world but they didn't score goals at the World Cup the way Barca scores goals against everybody. It's because they lacked the cutting edge to their attack that Messi gives them. If Messi was Spanish, Spain would have scored a lot more goals and the final would have been a boat race.
Messi could have played for Spain, I think.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Harrold Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:44 am
Danny wrote:He could have done yes, but so what?Harrold wrote:
Messi could have played for Spain, I think.
Nothing Mr. Aggresive.
I was adding to the point "if Messi was Spanish" - he could well have played for Spain, if he wasn't so loyal to Argentina.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by menalawyerguy Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:44 am
Harrold wrote:menalawyerguy wrote:
The Spanish NT is virtually Barca without Messi. They are still the best team in the world but they didn't score goals at the World Cup the way Barca scores goals against everybody. It's because they lacked the cutting edge to their attack that Messi gives them. If Messi was Spanish, Spain would have scored a lot more goals and the final would have been a boat race.
Messi could have played for Spain, I think.
ha
Probably could have. He should do at the next World Cup. Spain would win easily and Messi will have accomplished everything a football player possibly could. It would close the debate on who's the greatest ever.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Muhkoo Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:51 am
I think Messi.
Ronaldo has saved Madrid plenty of times but other times he is the root to the problems they have, without him they'd probably need to change their system but they have a different type of players that Barcelona have. Barcelona would draw a lot without Messi.
Ronaldo has saved Madrid plenty of times but other times he is the root to the problems they have, without him they'd probably need to change their system but they have a different type of players that Barcelona have. Barcelona would draw a lot without Messi.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Carlos Jenkinson Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:59 am
Messi by far, El Classico's stress this
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Phadunkin Donuts Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:03 am
Without Messi, Barcelona is Arsenal.
Arsenal are not multiple winners of the Champions League.
Arsenal are not multiple winners of the Champions League.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Danny Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:04 am
Not sure if srs.N wrote:Without Messi, Barcelona is Arsenal.
Arsenal are not multiple winners of the Champions League.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by menalawyerguy Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:09 am
N wrote:Without Messi, Barcelona is Arsenal.
Arsenal are not multiple winners of the Champions League.
Nah, not quite. Arsenal has no equivalent of Xavi, Iniesta, Dani Alves or even Busquets.
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menalawyerguy wrote:or even Busquets.
Song?
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by menalawyerguy Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:12 am
Lux wrote:menalawyerguy wrote:or even Busquets.
Song?
Eh....yea, this year I suppose, now that you mention it.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Phadunkin Donuts Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:13 am
Not srs.
I just always say that exact same comment every time the, "Would Barcelona be as amazing without Messi" topic gets brought up.
It's obvious the answer is Messi.
RM will just keep on buying for a solution.. buying players to score free kicks.. to score long range goals.. or to do fancy dribbling.
You can't buy a Messi.
I just always say that exact same comment every time the, "Would Barcelona be as amazing without Messi" topic gets brought up.
It's obvious the answer is Messi.
RM will just keep on buying for a solution.. buying players to score free kicks.. to score long range goals.. or to do fancy dribbling.
You can't buy a Messi.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Theo Filippo Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:15 am
Song is nowhere near Busquets.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Danny Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:17 am
Tbf, who out there could replace Ronaldo and smash in 50 goals in consecutive seasons?N wrote:Not srs.
I just always say that exact same comment every time the, "Would Barcelona be as amazing without Messi" topic gets brought up.
It's obvious the answer is Messi.
RM will just keep on buying for a solution.. buying players to score free kicks.. to score long range goals.. or to do fancy dribbling.
You can't buy a Messi.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by menalawyerguy Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:21 am
Theo Filippo wrote:Song is nowhere near Busquets.
Historically, no. This year, possibly. He's at least comparable. Arsenal has nobody comparable to Xavi, Iniesta or Alves.
But this is all moot now since N confirmed he wasn't serious.
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Phadunkin Donuts Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:25 am
Danny wrote:Tbf, who out there could replace Ronaldo and smash in 50 goals in consecutive seasons?N wrote:Not srs.
I just always say that exact same comment every time the, "Would Barcelona be as amazing without Messi" topic gets brought up.
It's obvious the answer is Messi.
RM will just keep on buying for a solution.. buying players to score free kicks.. to score long range goals.. or to do fancy dribbling.
You can't buy a Messi.
I know.. I know..
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Re: Who is more important to their team? Ronaldo or Messi
by Theo Filippo Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:26 am
Robin, he's premier league proven.Danny wrote:Tbf, who out there could replace Ronaldo and smash in 50 goals in consecutive seasons?N wrote:Not srs.
I just always say that exact same comment every time the, "Would Barcelona be as amazing without Messi" topic gets brought up.
It's obvious the answer is Messi.
RM will just keep on buying for a solution.. buying players to score free kicks.. to score long range goals.. or to do fancy dribbling.
You can't buy a Messi.
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