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    Who will be in the Grand Final along with Brisbane and win it?

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    Post by Guest Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:31 pm

    Chip wrote:FUCK THAT SHIT HE FUCKING DIVED

    BRISBANE WIN 2-1 Neutral

    FUCKING CUNT BERISHA DIVES IN INJURY TIME AND GETS THE PENALTY AND SCORE THE PENALTY

    FUCKING CHEATING SCUM. BAN SAM

    LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

    Lose with some dignity.

    He didn't dive if you watch the replay he clearly gets his stand leg kicked,
    and shane smelts should of actually been booked for his challenge on matt smith, Smelts is the one that commited the foul.


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    Post by GK01 Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:31 pm

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    Post by Guest Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:39 pm

    Oh my god, that incident is almost identical of what happened to me last weekend, I was dribbling through the defence when I went to kick the ball and some how ended up on the floor and I realised that someone had stuck there foot infront of mine when I went to shoot, it's similar and I can see why the ref gave it, but from other angles it looks like a dive.
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    Post by GK01 Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:46 pm

    Here's a 'few' of my favourite celebration/after game photos

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    Also for good measure here's a photo of me on the Courier Fails website

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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:50 pm

    Sam I saw you on TV I think Laughing

    I have no affiliation to Perth (other than the fact I like Smeltz) and I believe that they were treated harshly in the match in a majority of major decisions. Of course if you support Brisbane you will not say a bad word against the players, but Smeltz needs plastic surgery and required 53 stitches because of an elbow to the face Neutral

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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:18 pm

    Chip wrote:Sam I saw you on TV I think Laughing

    I have no affiliation to Perth (other than the fact I like Smeltz) and I believe that they were treated harshly in the match in a majority of major decisions. Of course if you support Brisbane you will not say a bad word against the players, but Smeltz needs plastic surgery and required 53 stitches because of an elbow to the face Neutral

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    Smeltz commited the foul, Smith went to protect himself, Smeltz's fault.

    Also everyone in the media is starting to say it was a penalty, including Mark Shield, who you'll remember was the best ref in Australia. Glory didn't have a shot on target all game and decided to play dirty, it's their own fault, Jared Gillet did a good job.
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:24 pm

    He raised his elbow into the fact of Shane Smeltz

    If I did that on the street I could be up for assault
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    Post by Childish Logic Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:28 pm

    but you are maori. Everyone knows if you did that then it means you want to hurt someone.


    @sam Laughing "few pictures" then posts a page full of them.
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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:29 pm

    Chip wrote:He raised his elbow into the fact of Shane Smeltz

    If I did that on the street I could be up for assault

    He raised it for protection, Smeltz was coming in, Smith had to defend himself, and he had grounds to defend and protect himself.
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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:29 pm

    NZG wrote:but you are maori. Everyone knows if you did that then it means you want to hurt someone.


    @sam Laughing "few pictures" then posts a page full of them.

    That's why I put the ' ' around the few Razz
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:32 pm

    GK01 wrote:
    Chip wrote:He raised his elbow into the fact of Shane Smeltz

    If I did that on the street I could be up for assault

    He raised it for protection, Smeltz was coming in, Smith had to defend himself, and he had grounds to defend and protect himself.

    If you go to protect yourself you turn your back, not raise your elbow up into the face of another person. You make it sound like Smeltz was coming in to punch him or something, Smeltz ran in a bit over eagerly but there was no need for Matt Smith to raise his elbow into the face of Smeltz!!

    Sam how about you run at me and I'll raise my elbow into your face so you require 53 stitches and see if you think it is fair and what you deserved
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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:33 pm

    Chip wrote:
    GK01 wrote:

    He raised it for protection, Smeltz was coming in, Smith had to defend himself, and he had grounds to defend and protect himself.

    If you go to protect yourself you turn your back, not raise your elbow up into the face of another person. You make it sound like Smeltz was coming in to punch him or something, Smeltz ran in a bit over eagerly but there was no need for Matt Smith to raise his elbow into the face of Smeltz!!

    Sam how about you run at me and I'll raise my elbow into your face so you require 53 stitches and see if you think it is fair and what you deserved

    Laughing, he didn't have time he did what was humanly possible to protect himself, he didn't mean to make Smeltz have plastic surgery but he did what was legal, and he did what was best for him.
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:37 pm

    So elbowing people in the face is now legal?

    Swell I'll tell all the kids in my U12 team that they can go around doing that to other kids and if the ref says anything to me I'll tell them that Matt Smith did it in the A-League Grand Final to Shane Smeltz and he didn't get in any trouble Smile

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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:40 pm

    Chip wrote:So elbowing people in the face is now legal?

    Swell I'll tell all the kids in my U12 team that they can go around doing that to other kids and if the ref says anything to me I'll tell them that Matt Smith did it in the A-League Grand Final to Shane Smeltz and he didn't get in any trouble Smile

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    He didn't just run up to him and randomly elbow him, he went to protect himself, it's perfectly legal, jesus you're an idiot facepalm

    Also yes that's been pointed out to me before, the goal still stands, offside goals have happened before, they'll happen again, I mean Perth got through on the back of a offside goal. Either way if you really want to be annoyed at that, be annoyed at it, not the pen, either way end of the day, we've overtaken Victory as most hated club, we love it and WE'RE CHAMPIONS!
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:46 pm

    Sam like I said, come to New Zealand and run at me and I will do exactly the same thing as Matt Smith did to Smeltz. I'll look at you lying on the ground with blood pouring from your face and I won't come over and see if you are ok I will just stare at you. Then when you need to get 53 stitches I won't say sorry or anything. In fact I'll celebrate taking you out as the greatest moment of my life
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:49 pm

    Sam, Matt Smith hasn't even apologised yet
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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:53 pm

    Chip wrote:Sam like I said, come to New Zealand and run at me and I will do exactly the same thing as Matt Smith did to Smeltz. I'll look at you lying on the ground with blood pouring from your face and I won't come over and see if you are ok I will just stare at you. Then when you need to get 53 stitches I won't say sorry or anything. In fact I'll celebrate taking you out as the greatest moment of my life

    Chip wrote:Sam, Matt Smith hasn't even apologised yet

    I'm going to leave it at this, everything he did was perfectly legal within the rules of the game. Also did you hear us chanting sheep shagger to him when he was down?
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    Post by Childish Logic Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:54 pm

    TBH i don't think chip can reach sams face with his elbow without jumping on top of a chair.
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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:56 pm

    NZG wrote:TBH i don't think chip can reach sams face with his elbow without jumping on top of a chair.

    rofl
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:56 pm

    no Sam I didn't

    I used to have a little ounce of respect for you Sam, but that has evaporated after you condone the actions of a diver and a thug. I hope that Brisbane come last next season and every single one of your players and fans dies a horrible painful death
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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:58 pm

    Chip wrote:no Sam I didn't

    I used to have a little ounce of respect for you Sam, but that has evaporated after you condone the actions of a diver and a thug. I hope that Brisbane come last next season and every single one of your players and fans dies a horrible painful death

    1) Berisha didn't dive you idiot Laughing There was contact that brought him down. If you want to say there wasn't contact then you can say his massive airswing brought him down, he didn't dive Laughing We've been over the Smith situation Laughing

    2) So you say I'm bad, then wish death upon players and fans? What a lovely person you are Laughing
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    Post by Childish Logic Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:06 pm

    Chip wrote:no Sam I didn't

    I used to have a little ounce of respect for you Sam, but that has evaporated after you condone the actions of a diver and a thug. I hope that Brisbane come last next season and every single one of your players and fans dies a horrible painful death
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    Post by GK01 Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:07 pm

    'Reports doing the rounds that Perth Glory are going to lodge an official complaint with the FFA with regards to the disgusting behaviour of Brisbane Roar fans towards the players' children.'

    Oh jesus facepalm
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    Post by Guest Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:35 am

    What a fucking ridiculous photo, how can a still prove it? Neutral
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    Post by GK01 Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:46 am

    Proving there was contact. Here's slow motion video



    Here's clearly clipped, causing him to hit the ball when his foot lands, meaning he has an air swing. The clip denied a goal scoring opportunity and it's a penalty.

    Also for the offside here's a better angle

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    I'll still agree he's probably offside, but you play to the attacking sides advantage so you can see why it was play on.
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    Post by Ra's al Ghul Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:49 am

    There's contact but no way was that a foul. The contact, which was minimal at best, isn't what makes him fall. He clearly trips himself.
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    Post by Guest Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:50 am

    The offside isn't an issue, it's ridiculously tight.. but posting a picture like that is stupid, it doesn't prove contact, his leg could just be near his.

    That's not a penalty for me, watching the slow motion thing back.
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    Post by GK01 Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:54 am

    kyro7 wrote:The offside isn't an issue, it's ridiculously tight.. but posting a picture like that is stupid, it doesn't prove contact, his leg could just be near his.

    That's not a penalty for me, watching the slow motion thing back.

    Was the image provided by Fox Sports on the highlights show, reason it's used.

    Anyway this quote is stolen from a Brisbane FB page.

    Law 17 says: A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
    • kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
    • trips or attempts to trip an opponent
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    • pushes an opponent

    Miller pushes him in the shoulder, and attempts to kick or trip him, therefore commits a foul which should be given as a direct free kick, it is in the box, so the next step of the laws apply

    "A penalty kick is awarded if any of the above ten offences is committed by a player inside his own penalty area, irrespective of the position of the ball, provided it is in play."

    Plus on top of that the former best ref in the country (now retired) who's on the referee committee, and often comes out and comments on dubious calls (since everyone listens to him) has come out and said it was a penalty (enough contact).

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