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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:42 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:you know that we are the people, so just give up, you can't win.

    LOL!

    More developments in the two contract scandal. Rangers potentially committing the biggest fraud in sporting history, with a little help from the Scottish Football Association.


    Rangers administration: Ogilvie out of ibrox probe


    By Tom English
    Published on Sunday 4 March 2012 05:16

    STEWART Regan, chief executive of the SFA, has confirmed that Campbell Ogilvie, the president of the association, will play no active part in their investigation into alleged secret, untaxed payments by way of reputed hidden contracts at Rangers going back a decade and more.

    Ogilvie was the Ibrox secretary throughout the period in question and though he sits on the board at Hampden and would normally be involved in all such business, he will be excluded when the SFA begins their examination.

    “Campbell won’t play any part in any meeting, discussion or conclusion on any activities surrounding Rangers,” said Regan on Friday. “I think it’s pretty obvious that he’s heavily conflicted. We’ve been aware of the issue for a while. We’ve been aware that people have views and believe that pieces of evidence exist. What we’re trying to do at the moment is get hold of as much information as we can.

    “The board will meet to discuss it within a week or maybe slightly longer. Very, very quickly the board will get together to consider the facts. This will be the Scottish FA’s main board. There are seven people on the board, but if you exclude Campbell it’s six. He’s not going to be able to take part.”

    On Friday, former Ibrox director Hugh Adam claimed that secret payments were being made to Rangers players as far back as the mid-1990s. Employee benefit trusts (EBTs) were believed to have come into vogue at Ibrox in 2001 but Adam suggests they might have been in operation even earlier than that, a fact that has exercised the SFA and will, no doubt, have Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs looking on with interest at the outcome of the association’s investigation. HMRC have already fought an epic battle with Rangers over their use of EBTs, the findings of which are imminent. If the verdict goes against the club, they could be looking at a tax bill of around £49m.

    It has been rumoured for some time that many Rangers players in the years from 2001 to 2010 operated with two contracts, one declared to the tax man and to the SFA and the other held privately. If Adam is right – and a tabloid newspaper claimed last week to have seen one of these redacted contracts – then the ramifications for Rangers could be immense. Secret contracts are in direct contravention of the SFA articles of association and would have rendered all players holding such a contract ineligible to play for their club.

    “Without having any specialist knowledge, I’m pretty sure [that EBTs were being used in the mid-1990s],” Adam told the Daily Mail. “There was a lot of that going on at the time. You knew it was cheating but some of them (his fellow directors) not only hoped, but believed, it was above board… They were doing things they shouldn’t have been doing… They were getting away with it but nobody thought they’d get away with it for ever… You could dodge your taxes that way.”

    Adam, now 86, was removed from the Rangers board by Sir David Murray in 2002. Adam was a vocal critic of Murray’s financial stewardship of the club and was forced out after a 30-year association with Rangers. Since speaking out on Friday, Adam has been criticised on supporters’ websites. He has been accused of merely having an axe to grind with Murray while his recollection of events has also been called into question given that it is believed that EBTs only came into force at Ibrox in 2001, not years earlier as he seems to suggest.

    Sources said last night that the EBTs were not Ogilvie’s domain at Rangers and that they were handled instead by the Murray Group. Indeed, it is at Murray’s door that Adam lays the responsibility for whatever fallout comes from the club’s use of the controversial trusts.

    The SFA have taken Adam’s words extremely seriously. “It is one director’s take on things but as a board we have to examine it,” said Regan. Asked what the possible punishment might be if Rangers were found to be in breach of the regulations, the chief executive said it could be anything from Armageddon to a slap on the wrist. “If you look at our articles of association it shows a range of powers that the judicial panel has. What will happen is that the matter will go to the Scottish FA main board and will then pass through to the judicial panel. There’s a whole range of things from suspension and termination of membership at the extreme end to fines and ejection from Scottish Cup competition or other such penalties the panel deem appropriate.”

    Regan did not rule out a more wide-ranging inquiry into the alleged double contracts saga. “That will depend on the board’s view of the facts and what information is there. The situation is changing daily and new information is emerging all the time. We’ve got our hands on certain pieces of information and we’re exploring it and we’re asking for further information. By the time the board meets we will have a fuller picture and if it’s the board’s opinion that they want a fuller investigation then that will be an option. If they feel they have enough facts to draw some conclusions then that will be their decision.”

    In the next week or so, the SFA’s independent inquiry into Craig Whyte’s takeover of the club, headed by Lord Nimmo Smith, is due to report its findings. “The terms of reference cover primarily the Craig Whyte era but in digging into facts it has taken us into other areas, so it’s thrown up matters which are of interest to the committee. I’m there representing the board. We’ve got into the meat of what has been going on at Rangers now and the inquiry has gone in different directions, so I can’t really comment on any particular area of it. We call witnesses and speak to people. That’s what the inquiry has been doing. I’m not prepared to discuss who we’ve spoken to. People we think have got information that will be useful to the inquiry.

    “The inquiry isn’t judge and jury. The process is one of investigation and presenting the facts. The board will consider the facts and if the board feels that the facts are compelling they will pass that to the compliance officer and it will go through the normal disciplinary process.”

    Asked about the perception that the SFA will not impose the maximum penalty on Rangers – termination of membership – even if they are found to be in serious contravention of their articles of association, Regan said: “You’re asking me to make comment before the inquiry is concluded. That’s inappropriate.”

    When contacted last week, UEFA declined to comment on the happenings at Ibrox. “If you think about it,” said Regan, “would FIFA get involved in a UEFA matter before the actual body itself had been allowed to conclude their investigation? You have got to let the governing body go through the facts and establish conclusions. UEFA don’t run Scottish football, they run European football. They’ll only get involved here if they feel that something has happened that hasn’t been addressed and it impacts on their competitions. The new UEFA licence will be considered on or around 31 March and at that stage the matter will clearly be of interest to them. They are aware of what is going on at the club, though.”
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:58 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Also something that's good to hear, rumours that the referee's are having a crisis meeting at Hampden tomorrow because various refereeing decisions have cost Rangers their last 2 games. eek2

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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:14 am

    Why quote your own post?

    No referees have cost you any games. And we don't post totally ridiculous rumours in this thread.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:18 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Two weeks on the trot Rangers have had the highest attendance in British football, At 47,276 yesterday. Once again proving that we are the best fans in the world. No matter what, we don't do walking away!
    Best fans in UK mabe. Definitely not the world. That doesn't scratch the surface of many clubs throughout Europe and South America. Especially considering UK fans don't sing.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:21 am

    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:
    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Two weeks on the trot Rangers have had the highest attendance in British football, At 47,276 yesterday. Once again proving that we are the best fans in the world. No matter what, we don't do walking away!
    Best fans in UK mabe. Definitely not the world. That doesn't scratch the surface of many clubs throughout Europe and South America. Especially considering UK fans don't sing.

    You serious?
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:22 am

    Nope, just entertaining Jela. Rangers are definitely not the best fans in the UK. Celtic are. shifty

    Followed by a host of English sides. Then Rangers.
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    Post by Kuled Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:22 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Two weeks on the trot Rangers have had the highest attendance in British football, At 47,276 yesterday. Once again proving that we are the best fans in the world. No matter what, we don't do walking away!
    Two weeks in a row? Arsenal had a capacity of 60,000 for the North London derby Wink
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    Post by Totti Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:23 am

    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:
    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Two weeks on the trot Rangers have had the highest attendance in British football, At 47,276 yesterday. Once again proving that we are the best fans in the world. No matter what, we don't do walking away!
    Best fans in UK mabe. Definitely not the world. That doesn't scratch the surface of many clubs throughout Europe and South America. Especially considering UK fans don't sing.

    They're not the best in Scotland, let alone the UK. facepalm

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    We can't compete with European fans in this country though.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:26 am

    No doubt this thread will be busy tomorrow. Might not be in until mid afternoon so someone else hopefully will post all the updates
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:10 am

    Totti wrote:
    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:Best fans in UK mabe. Definitely not the world. That doesn't scratch the surface of many clubs throughout Europe and South America. Especially considering UK fans don't sing.

    They're not the best in Scotland, let alone the UK. facepalm

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    We can't compete with European fans in this country though.

    As said, people started leaving in injury time as most fans do. To beat the traffic etc.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:36 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
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    They're not the best in Scotland, let alone the UK. facepalm

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    We can't compete with European fans in this country though.

    As said, people started leaving in injury time as most fans do. To beat the traffic etc.
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    Post by Totti Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:55 am

    I'd have thought that such brilliant fans would accept a 10 minute traffic delay to cheer on their team in it's darkest hour.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:05 am

    Evening Times

    Gers could face a ban from SFA

    By MATTHEW LINDSAY

    SFA chief executive Stewart Regan has revealed Rangers could be booted out of Scottish football if they are found guilty of giving players two contracts.

    The governing body is currently conducting an independent inquiry into Craig Whyte’s controversial takeover of the crisis-hit Ibrox club.

    However, Regan has confirmed other issues have arisen during the course of the far-reaching investigation which will also be looked at in greater detail.

    It has been speculated that Gers players had two contracts with the Glasgow club when EBTs were in use between 2001 and 2009.

    And last week ex-Rangers director Hugh Adam claimed that specialist payments were being made to playing personnel as far back as the mid-1990s. Under the SFA’s articles of association, clubs are only allowed to give players one contract of employment.

    Regan admitted on Friday that the allegations made by Adam, who was ousted from the club board by former owner Sir David Murray, would be looked at. And he outlined the range of punishments available to the organisation if Rangers are found to have breached their strict guidelines.


    He said: “If you look at our articles of association, it shows a range of powers that the judicial panel has.

    “What will happen is that the matter will go to the Scottish FA main board and will then pass through to the judicial panel.

    “There’s a whole range of things from suspension to termination of membership at the extreme end to fines and ejection from the Scottish Cup or other such penalties the panel deem appropriate.

    “It (Hugh Adam’s claim) is one director’s take on things, but, as a board, we have to examine it.”

    Regan added: “The inquiry covers primarily the Craig Whyte era, but in digging into facts it has take us into other areas.

    “It’s thrown up matters which are of interest to the committee. I’m there representing the board. We’ve got into the meat of what has been going on at Rangers and now the inquiry has gone in different directions.

    “The inquiry isn’t judge and jury. The process is one of investigation and presenting the facts.

    “The board will consider the facts and if the board feels the facts are compelling they will pass that to the compliance officer and it will go through the normal disciplinary process.”

    Regan refused to dismiss the possibility of a separate inquiry being launched specifically into allegations of double contracts at Rangers in the future.

    He remarked: “That will depend on the board’s view of the facts and what information there is. The situation is changing daily and new information is emerging all the time.

    “We’ve got our hands on certain pieces of information and we’re exploring it and asking for further information. If it’s the board’s opinion that they want a fuller investigation then that will be an option.”

    Meanwhile, Regan has confirmed that SFA president Campbell Ogilvie, whose role at Rangers during the Murray era has come under scrutiny, will not be involved in any investigation into secret payments.

    He saud: “I think it’s pretty obvious that he (Ogilvie) is heavily conflicted. Campbell won’t play any part in any meeting, discussion or conclusion on any activities surrounding Rangers.”
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    Post by TheRangersFan Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:21 am

    LEE McCULLOCH last night offered to play for Rangers for free until the club has emerged from its financial crisis.
    And Record Sport understands the veteran has also made it clear that, even though he could end up more than a quarter of a million pounds out of pocket, he will not expect any of his money back after the club is in the hands of new owners.
    The extraordinary move will place the administrators under enormous pressure not to bullet McCulloch this morning when they arrive at Murray Park to start tapping manager Ally McCoist’s players on the shoulder as part of a swingeing cost-cutting plan to save £1m a month.
    We can also reveal that McCoist has agreed to sign an identical deal to help spare as many of his players as possible from the firing squad.
    But McCulloch’s remarkable pledge to pay to play for the jersey – waiving his contractual right to a wage of around £20,000 a week, while placing himself at risk of injury – may even have stunned the men from Duff and Phelps who had placed his name on a list of 11 top targets.
    McCulloch instructed Players’ Union chief Fraser Wishart to make the formal offer to the
    administrators yesterday as the clock ticked down to this morning’s expected Murray Park cull.
    We understand at least four other players have also been in talks with Wishart over the weekend, offering to do what they can to help save jobs.
    But the 33-year-old is the only one so far who has volunteered to go without any kind of pay.
    Union bosses were furious on Friday when the administrators turned down an offer for the entire playing staff to take 75 per cent deferrals on their wages.
    They believe the money that would have saved would have been more than enough to keep the club in business until the end of the season.
    And they warned any compromise deals will be removed if even one of McCoist’s men is shown the door today.
    They have also been angered by a warning from the administrators that, even after some contracts have been terminated, huge mandatory pay cuts could still be enforced on those players who remain.
    The news of McCulloch’s pledge came as Paul Murray, whose Blue Knights consortium is believed to be the club’s best hope of avoiding liquidation, was in talks with the administrators, urging them to limit the job losses.
    Murray met with top brass from Duff and Phelps at Ibrox on Saturday to continue his efforts to rescue Rangers from the hands of disgraced owner Craig Whyte.
    After learning of McCulloch’s intentions last night Murray pleaded with the money men to see sense.
    The former Deutsche Bank high-flyer told Record Sport: “If it is true that one of our players has offered to make such a massive financial sacrifice for the good of the club the administrators are professionally and morally obliged to accept it.
    “My first reaction to this is that Lee McCulloch epitomises everything that Rangers Football Club is about. It’s about people like Lee and Ally McCoist – people who love the club and are prepared to do anything they can to defend the club and to save the club. It’s an incredible gesture.”
    McCoist wants as many of his players as possible to be saved as he bids to secure a second-place finish in the SPL, worth around £900,000.
    McCulloch has emerged as a key man, having played as a stand-in striker after the sale of Nikica Jelavic to Everton and injuries to Kyle Lafferty and Steven Naismith.

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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:23 am

    Breaking on SSN: SPL to investigate Rangers payments to players

    That's SPL joined SFA for an investigation, wonder when UEFA will get involved.

    A great time to post this

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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:53 am

    SPL Statement

    The SPL Board has instructed an investigation into the alleged non-disclosure to the SPL of payments made by or on behalf of Rangers FC to players since 1 July 1998.

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    SPL rules F1, G1.1 and G1.5 give the SPL Board wide powers of investigation into potential breaches of the SPL rules.

    SPL rules D9.3 and D1.13 impose a prohibition on players receiving payments for playing football or participating in an activity connected with football except where such payments are made in accordance with a form of contract approved by the SPL and require that all such contracts are submitted to the SPL within 14 days of being entered into.


    7 league titles, 6 scottish cups and 7 league cups, won by cheating. Playing with hundreds of ineligible players for 14 YEARS!!! in order to spend tax payers money to pay for footballers they couldn't afford. Let them die.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:03 am

    No redundancies today.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:30 am

    Chris McLaughlin ‏ @BBCchrismclaug Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Players told by #Rangers administrators that if wage cuts cant be agreed, redundancy figures could go beyond 11.

    Sky Sports News ‏ @SkySportsNews Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Breaking news - Sky sources: Rangers administrators reject players' wage proposal.

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    STV understands Rangers players are currently going in to see the administrators one by one to learn their fate.

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    #Rangers redundancies begin - Gregg Wylde has been released

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    Mervan Celik also agrees deal to leave #Rangers.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:38 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Two weeks on the trot Rangers have had the highest attendance in British football, At 47,276 yesterday. Once again proving that we are the best fans in the world. No matter what, we don't do walking away!
    We had 52k at the weekend. Huh
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    We can't compete with European fans in this country though.

    As said, people started leaving in injury time as most fans do. To beat the traffic etc.

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    Post by TheRangersFan Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:55 am

    LEGAL experts have revealed that Rangers could argue Employee Benefit Trusts do not constitute a contract – as the SPL became the latest organisation to investigate their financial affairs.

    There have been claims today that the stricken Ibrox club could be stripped of the titles they have won since the inception of the SPL, after the governing body launched a probe into an allegation made by former director Hugh Adam last week that players were given two contracts and ‘under-the-table-payments’ stretching back to the 1990s.

    The SFA confirmed last Friday they were already looking into the Adam allegations, and the SPL confirmed yesterday: ‘‘SPL rules D9.3 and D1.13 impose a prohibition on players receiving payments for playing football or participating in an activity connected with football except where such payments are made in accordance with a form of contract approved by the SPL and require that all such contracts are submitted to the SPL within 14 days of being entered into.”

    But Richard Cramer, a lawyer with FrontRow Legal, a firm that specialises in sports business, believes the discretionary nature of payments under trust rules is the opposite of the normal understanding of a contract.

    Rangers, of course, have already been served a demand by HMRC for their use of EBT’s over a decade; the club’s appeal on that demand to a First Tier Tribunal will rule inside the next month on whether they are liable, and the bill could hit a staggering £49million if it goes against them.

    But it’s the allegation that SPL and SFA contract legislation has been breached that will be probed by the governing bodies, with a range of sanctions open to them if any wrong-doing is proved.

    It would appear, however, that EBT’s cannot be considered as ‘second contracts’ as has been claimed.

    Cramer said today: “Rangers could argue to any inquiry that the EBTs are a private matter between club and player because they involve a discretionary payment.

    “They could say to the league: ‘Why should we inform you of discretionary payments that do not fall under the umbrella of a normal contract?’

    “For example, with EBTs there is no contractual enforcement right. You are relying on the goodwill of your employer and you could advance the argument that if there was no contractual obligation to pay money then there is no binding contract.

    “There is an argument that the club could simply say that all EBTs fall outside the normal definition of contract.

    “EBTs have always been a little bit scary from a player’s point of view precisely because it is a discretionary payment. What the player is relying on is the ability of the owner or company to honour the agreement.’’

    SportTimes can reveal that Rangers paid its parent company Murray Group a £500,000 fee every season for legal matters to be taken care of, and the administration of player EBTs came under that umbrella.

    And EBT expert Graeme Nuttall, an independent government, said payments made under the scheme were ‘‘not a contractual right’’. He explained: ‘‘There is no obligation to pay the employee a certain amount of money.

    “Typically, there would be an expression that you were part of a bonus plan and that would be paid into an employee trust.

    “So it is not a contractual right for the player to receive a sum of money.’’

    A draft letter claiming to outline details of off-shore payments and performance-related incentives issued to an un-named Rangers player was published in a Sunday newspaper nine days ago.

    Nuttall conceded, however, there would be documentation on both sides. He said: “The player would receive some documentation and there would also be a trust deed.

    “You would expect letters of instruction from the club. The trustees would have issued guidance that is not strictly legally binding. It all works on a trust basis.

    “There are a lot of good, genuine employee trusts out there.

    “It has been a constant frustration to me over the years that employee trusts have been used for tax-driven purposes rather for genuine purposes.

    “I do not know the details of the scheme at Rangers but I assume it was tax-driven.’
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:20 am

    oh noez, not gregg wylde and mervan celik. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

    Laughing

    You can take:

    McCulloch
    Papac
    Whittaker
    Healy
    Broadfoot
    Goian
    Alexander
    Bedoya
    Bartley
    Gallacher
    Hemmings
    Mitchell
    Dick
    Kal Naismith
    Darren Cole
    Grant Adam
    Ortiz
    Fleck
    as well if you want. Smile
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    Post by Mal Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:27 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:oh noez, not gregg wylde and mervan celik. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

    Laughing

    You can take:

    McCulloch
    Papac
    Whittaker
    Healy
    Broadfoot
    Goian
    Alexander
    Bedoya
    Bartley
    Gallacher
    Hemmings
    Mitchell
    Dick
    Kal Naismith
    Darren Cole
    Grant Adam
    Ortiz
    Fleck
    as well if you want. Smile

    Mervan Celik who you had as your avatar and sig with love hearts next to his name. laugh
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:33 am

    Rick Rosstrich wrote:
    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:oh noez, not gregg wylde and mervan celik. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

    Laughing

    You can take:

    McCulloch
    Papac
    Whittaker
    Healy
    Broadfoot
    Goian
    Alexander
    Bedoya
    Bartley
    Gallacher
    Hemmings
    Mitchell
    Dick
    Kal Naismith
    Darren Cole
    Grant Adam
    Ortiz
    Fleck
    as well if you want. Smile

    Mervan Celik who you had as your avatar and sig with love hearts next to his name. laugh

    Always do that when we sign someone, unfortunately he is shite. laugh
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    They are a laughing stock. This is a disgrace

    An inquiry into the Rangers Charity Foundation has been launched after it revealed the crisis-hit club would receive most of its proceeds from a friendly match.

    The Ibrox club are hosting a game between former players of both Rangers and AC Milan later this month.

    It had originally been organised to raise funds for the Rangers Charity Foundation, which was going to receive 60% of all money gathered by the game on March 30.

    The charity, which has donated more than £2.3m to various causes since it was set up in 2002, has reduced the amount it will take from the game to 10%, meaning the majority of the money raised will go to the club, which is currently in administration.

    On Tuesday, the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator confirmed it had been made aware of "concerns" regarding the game after the change to the benefactors.

    A spokesman for the regulator said: "We can confirm that we have an ongoing inquiry into the Rangers Charity Foundation. It would therefore not be appropriate to comment further."

    Rangers boss Ally McCoist, who is expected to feature for the Rangers side in the game, previously welcomed the move by the charity foundation.

    He said: "It is a tremendous gesture by the Rangers Charity Foundation to forego the majority of the proceeds of the legends match to benefit the club and it is going to be an evening of nostalgia for all the fans, players and supporters."

    The AC Milan Foundation is also due to receive a percentage of money raised by the friendly, which will see Brian Laudrup and Paul Gascoigne featuring for the Rangers team, while the Italian team will include the likes of Paolo Maldini and Jean-Pierre Papin.

    Connal Cochrane, manager of the charity foundation, added: "The club and the Rangers fans have been tremendous to the foundation over the last ten years and now it is our turn to stand alongside them and step up for Rangers. The Rangers Charity Foundation suggested the club should now benefit from the match and we were delighted that the AC Milan Foundation agreed."
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    STV understands that Southampton have already made enquiries to Gregg Wylde's representatives about taking the winger to St Mary's.

    Jordi will like this, he's a promising talent
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    The Maestro wrote:Keith Downie ‏ @STVkeith Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    STV understands that Southampton have already made enquiries to Gregg Wylde's representatives about taking the winger to St Mary's.

    Jordie will like this, he's a good player

    Oh dear god no facepalm rofl

    He had one good game, against you in the cup final which was one of his first games, if not his debut for us. He's pish, he's got no skill and can't beat a man, all he's got is pace so I supposed he could be like Bale i.e. just hit the ball and run after it. Seriously shit player. Neutral
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    Oh and btw, apparently Whittaker is being released pray
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    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
    The Maestro wrote:Keith Downie ‏ @STVkeith Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    STV understands that Southampton have already made enquiries to Gregg Wylde's representatives about taking the winger to St Mary's.

    Jordie will like this, he's a good player

    Oh dear god no facepalm rofl

    He had one good game, against you in the cup final which was one of his first games, if not his debut for us. He's pish, he's got no skill and can't beat a man, all he's got is pace so I supposed he could be like Bale i.e. just hit the ball and run after it. Seriously shit player. Neutral

    He's clearly not shit. You said Celik was "world class", you made that evaluation of him. Now, today since he is gone you are saying he is shit. You're best just ignored completely.


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