Stuart Pearce will manage England for Holland match

Lets be honest, Ireland have it.

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

Danny wrote:At least we're there, eh Jela?

We aren't deluded though. Eh Danneh?

Rather be deluded about a tournament than never seeing my country reach one.

Have a go at England all you want mate.

Danny wrote:

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

We aren't deluded though. Eh Danneh?

Rather be deluded about a tournament than never seeing my country reach one.

Have a go at England all you want mate.

Which is why, we as a nation have the best fans on the planet. The most loyal, the most passionate etc etc.

Yours on the other hand, are an embarrassment.

We may as well have appointed a traffic cone... About as much tactical nous.

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

Danny wrote:Rather be deluded about a tournament than never seeing my country reach one.

Have a go at England all you want mate.

Which is why, we as a nation have the best fans on the planet. The most loyal, the most passionate etc etc.

Yours on the other hand, are an embarrassment.

okay.

Tbh the old fashioned English hype died in South Africa.

YukiAbe1996 wrote:Tbh the old fashioned English hype died in South Africa.

It died in Germany. There was none of the hype pre Euro 2008 or pre WC 2010, not really.

You'll still find some probably saying we can beat the best 3 teams on our day (Spain, Germany, Holland) and how we're better than France, Portugal etc.. because they did shit in the World Cup (even though we did as well).

Not to mention France beat us easily last time out, Portugal always beat us and have players like Ronaldo and Nani.

To be fair though, we probably could beat the top teams on our day, but it'd only be a 1 off result. I mean, we beat Spain a few months back

I agree with Dave too. Pearce as manager, Dawson as captain. Heaven!

Dawson as captain.

He'd be lucky to get in the squad.

Danny wrote:You'll still find some probably saying we can beat the best 3 teams on our day (Spain, Germany, Holland) and how we're better than France, Portugal etc.. because they did shit in the World Cup (even though we did as well).

Not to mention France beat us easily last time out, Portugal always beat us and have players like Ronaldo and Nani.

We are not better than them, but we can still beat them. To be fair to the team, the past few tournaments have been plagued with bad luck and acts of absolute stupidity by individual players.

He's our best centre back and only player that has true captain material. It's be a travesty for him to not be in the squad

Danny wrote:You'll still find some probably saying we can beat the best 3 teams on our day (Spain, Germany, Holland) and how we're better than France, Portugal etc.. because they did shit in the World Cup (even though we did as well).

Not to mention France beat us easily last time out, Portugal always beat us and have players like Ronaldo and Nani.

What is so ridiculous about that? I mean fucking hell, do you even watch football? Blackburn beat United in Old Trafford a month ago, Barca lost to Hercules last season, England did beat Spain at Wembley earlier this season in a friendly match. On England's day, if they get the right amount of luck, perform to their level, if the team they're facing have a poor game, then of course England can beat them. To suggest otherwise is absurd. Also, over the last 4 years England have been better than France and Portugal, France haven't even won a game at an international tournament since 2006 and have struggled somewhat in qualifying, whereas England have breezed through the last two campaigns.

Portugal don't always beat England, they haven't beaten England since 2000 and most, if not all of the players have retired since then. They got a couple of draws and scraped through on penalties a couple of times after England lost Rooney but that hardly means they are better than England today.

Lads I know we can beat them, you don't have to throw in your examples RR, I'm just saying its not likely we'd beat them and if we ran into one of them 5 in the knockouts (we probably will in the quarters, seen as France will probably top our group) personally they'll do us.

Lads I know we can beat them, you don't have to throw in your examples RR, I'm just saying its not likely we'd beat them and if we ran into one of them 5 in the knockouts (we probably will in the quarters, seen as France will probably top our group) personally they'll do us.

And Forest, Dawson's no where near our best centre back.

I'd take any of Rio, Terry, Smalling, Jones, Cahill, Lescott over him.

Danny wrote:Lads I know we can beat them, you don't have to throw in your examples RR, I'm just saying its not likely we'd beat them and if we ran into one of them 5 in the knockouts (we probably will in the quarters, seen as France will probably top our group) personally they'll do us.

Of course we won't be favourites. But even against a superior Germany side in 2010, we were somewhat robbed of a competitive game by a dubious decision. Who knows?

Yeah, I actually think England would probably have qualified for the Quarter Finals if that goal had been counted. Comeback like that the players would have been bouncing out for half time, and not been so incredibly Gung Ho with the likes of Terry playing as strikers leaving the back door open.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Yeah, I actually think England would probably have qualified for the Quarter Finals if that goal had been counted. Comeback like that the players would have been bouncing out for half time, and not been so incredibly Gung Ho with the likes of Terry playing as strikers leaving the back door open.

Lampard hit the crossbar as well in the second half. Poor Capello. A victim of bad luck.

i agree completely guys. i think when looking at all these facts, capello is by far the best manager in hsitory of england national team, followed by the likes of hoddle and erikkson

these men all unlucky in their tenures, if they had the luck(or blatant cheating) of someone like ramsay in 66 then they would of been very liked in england football community

mauro=beast wrote:i agree completely guys. i think when looking at all these facts, capello is by far the best manager in hsitory of england national team, followed by the likes of hoddle and erikkson

these men all unlucky in their tenures, if they had the luck(or blatant cheating) of someone like ramsay in 66 then they would of been very liked in england football community

Agreed. He steadied the ship after the most disastrous of tenures from an Englishman, and had it not been for Rio getting injured, then King, who knows?

agree completely

its always the foreigners that have to clean up the mess made by englishmen

look at the travesty left behind by keegan that erikkson cleaned up

erikkson then left a good squad for mclaren to utilizee and then he fuck it all up and ruin things

then capello came and fix things up, and now left a good squad with fresh young players only for the next manager( who knows who it will be, but if its english) then that english person will no doubt fuck it up too

We will all see what a mistake has been made when Harry Redknapp's tactical abilities lead to a debacle against the mighty Ukraine. However, the players will be excused because they played with "passion" under the new mastermind.

Apparnetly Stuart Pearce racially abused Paul Ince in 1994, and his brother is a fascist. Doesn't get any easier for the FA, does it?

I'd be interested to see how Pearce does in a proper management job again. Probably shit, but there was a lot of promise around him at one point. I remember people talking about him just flat out getting the England job and I was gutted because I didn't want to lose him.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Apparnetly Stuart Pearce racially abused Paul Ince in 1994, and his brother is a fascist. Doesn't get any easier for the FA, does it?

Paul Ince thing isn't right, but he can't really be held accountable for the actions of his brother.

Britfag wrote:Dave, you're dumb. Pearce is a poor manager, he has proven that for Man City and the England under 21's. He has no tactical knowledge at all and resorts to using hoofball despite having skillfull players like Sturridge in the team. Did you watch any of the last u21 tournament?

Bullshit. If he was a poor manager then the U21s wouldn't have got to a Semi Final and Final in the U21s tournament under his management. Also Capello must have saw something in him to appoint him as coach.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Apparnetly Stuart Pearce racially abused Paul Ince in 1994, and his brother is a fascist. Doesn't get any easier for the FA, does it?

Funny how this has surfaced now. Media obviously want to make sure that good old 'arry gets the job

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

Danny wrote:Rather be deluded about a tournament than never seeing my country reach one.

Have a go at England all you want mate.

Which is why, we as a nation have the best fans on the planet. The most loyal, the most passionate etc etc.

Yours on the other hand, are an embarrassment.

Oh shut the fuck up you deluded knobhead.

Sean wrote:Lets be honest, Ireland have it.

I hope they fail horribly, damn cheaters...

Capello is not the best manager England has ever had. To even suggest that is silly. Yes he had a fair share of bad luck, but he also made several atrange and down right mental decisions. Who puts on Emile Heskey for Jermaine Defoe when you need a goal in the last minutes?

He's not had all that much bad luck either compared to a few others, missing out on Rio was unfortunate and all but at least he wasn't missing his best player like Robson did in two tournaments, nor did he have any particulary diffiuclt players to deal with such as the likes of Gazza. Whatever chaos ensued for Capello was his own making and his own indecision that allowed.

Hell even Eriksson had more bad luck than capello. He never had his star striker injured, nor did he lose out in the midst of a good tournament due to cheating argentines.

You would have had a case if South Africa had been somewhat good, but it wasn't. In fact it's the worst tournament England had performed in since Euro 1988.

Er...right, so you're judging him on 4 games? I'm talking about his quality as a manager, judged over his entire career, and it shits on anything any other England manager has achieved from a great height.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Er...right, so you're judging him on 4 games? I'm talking about his quality as a manager, judged over his entire career, and it shits on anything any other England manager has achieved from a great height.

Not on Eriksson.