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Are you wishing death upon Her Majesty, Alan? Are you wishing death upon an 86 year old woman?Alan wrote:"God save the Queen"Glen Damon wrote:I don't really understand, Alan. The national anthem is representative of the nation's successes, whilst also symbolically acknowledging the ultimate sacrifice that many men have made in the past. If you can't justify singing that, or at the very least remaining silent during it, then I really don't know what to say. You must like speaking German, or something.
What part about singing it do you not like?
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#scousenotenglish
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If they are scouse not English then they should give up the tax revenue they receive from Her Majesty's Exchequer. The City of Liverpool is a city of parasites which leeches off the rich of the country, and they aren't even grateful for it. Much like the entire nation of Scotland.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:If they are scouse not English then they should give up the tax revenue they receive from Her Majesty's Exchequer. The City of Liverpool is a city of parasites which leeches off the rich of the country, and they aren't even grateful for it. Much like the entire nation of Scotland.
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Could not really give a fuck if she did, but she might be an ok auld women and im not wishing her to die any time soon.Glen Damon wrote:Are you wishing death upon Her Majesty, Alan? Are you wishing death upon an 86 year old woman?Alan wrote:"God save the Queen"
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All the same, surely there are better ways to protest the maintaining of the monarchy than booing the national anthem pitifully before the FA Cup final?Alan wrote:Could not really give a fuck if she did, but she might be an ok auld women and im not wishing her to die any time soon.Glen Damon wrote:Are you wishing death upon Her Majesty, Alan? Are you wishing death upon an 86 year old woman?
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Glen Damon wrote:All the same, surely there are better ways to protest the maintaining of the monarchy than booing the national anthem pitifully before the FA Cup final?Alan wrote:Could not really give a fuck if she did, but she might be an ok auld women and im not wishing her to die any time soon.
Personally i could not really give a fuck.
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| Man United songs aimed at England |
The rivalry between Manchester United and England fans is an unusual one that isn't often reported, The violence between reds and 'Inger-lund-ers', when the national team play in Manchester, is often as intense as that between United and more traditional domestic rivals. Union Jacks and St George's Crosses emblazoned with the 'MUFC' name are looked upon with equal disdain by die-hard reds and England fans alike. Interestingly, it's a similar relationship to which Liverpool fans share with England, albeit somewhat more ferocious and with a more checkered history. Welcome to the People's Republic of Mancunia...
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:If they are scouse not English then they should give up the tax revenue they receive from Her Majesty's Exchequer. The City of Liverpool is a city of parasites which leeches off the rich of the country, and they aren't even grateful for it. Much like the entire nation of Scotland.
Yes and if it was not for us Scots, how many titles have Scottish managers won for your club. Yes just the 17 off them.
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Every club has a lunatic fringe, you don't see our fans trying to drown out the national anthem though.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:If they are scouse not English then they should give up the tax revenue they receive from Her Majesty's Exchequer. The City of Liverpool is a city of parasites which leeches off the rich of the country, and they aren't even grateful for it. Much like the entire nation of Scotland.
A large percentage of England as a whole is living off the taxes paid by the rich due to your socialist policies and tendencies to lean toward nanny state programs.
Your game is tired already.
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Alan wrote:"God save the Queen"Glen Damon wrote:I don't really understand, Alan. The national anthem is representative of the nation's successes, whilst also symbolically acknowledging the ultimate sacrifice that many men have made in the past. If you can't justify singing that, or at the very least remaining silent during it, then I really don't know what to say. You must like speaking German, or something.
What part about singing it do you not like?
I never get this part.
1. If you aren't religious then that's like saying "Santa save the queen", not singing it or finding it offensive is quite crazy.
2. If you are religious, then how is God saving the Queen of the Commonwealth all that objectionable?
3. If you just hate the queen because you're anti-monarchist, then why does other people singing a song about something they believe in bother you all that much? It would be like hating the president of the United States' theme song (yes, I'm calling it a theme song, problem?) simply because you're a royalist, which I'm quite sure no royalist does at least not on that basis.
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Anti-England songs sang by Man United fans |
| "D'ya know what, I've never really backed England in anything, I've gotta be honest. Now, if it was a Republic of Mancunia team.." - Ian Brown ahead of the 2010 World Cup |
It's hard to say when the rivalry between Manchester United and England fans started, although it certainly pre-dated United's recent success and, without doubt, has grown more ferocious since 1994 to the point where England fans refuse to honour a minute's silence for those that died at Munich, including 5 England greats. |
Whilst the anti-England songs definitely get a more passionate airing against small time clubs, who easily get wound up by them, there's virtually never a game to go by without one chant directed towards the national team. |
For many non-Mancunians, it's puzzling as to why such a rivalry exists, especially as more England caps have been given to players from United than any other club. You could write a whole book about the two-way hatred, however the most obvious examples include the whole of Wembley Stadium singing "Stand-Up If You Hate Man U' on regular occasions, despite England's best players being United stars. This song was sang louder than ever when England played at Old Trafford and, worse still, in 2001, when seven reds played in the same England team against Albania. The singing didn't stop even after both Scholesy and Andy Cole scored. |
Even those Little Inger-lund-ers who, after booing the opponent's national anthem, worship the likes of Rooney and Beckham when playing in white, are the first to abuse them passionately when they wear the red of United. Beckham even received death threats from England supporters after being sent off against Argentina, whilst United fans stood by him. Likewise, Cristiano Ronaldo, who twice broke English hearts to the delight of non-patriotic reds, received a similar fate. |
United fans could never really support the likes of Alan Shearer, Robbie Fowler or Steven Gerrard, whilst Stevie Coppell (Nov'81) and Neil Webb (Sep'89) both had their United careers cut short through injury whilst on national duty. Then of course there was Captain Marvel, Bryan Robson, who seemed to pick up a major injury every time he played for England. |
England managers helped give United fans a laugh, Darren Anderton was preferred to David Beckham in the 1998 World Cup, Emile Heskey to Andy Cole and perhaps most amazingly, one of United's greatest ever players, Steve Bruce, never received a single England call up! Maybe that explains why United fans have never really been patrioc, although many people point simply to the Manc attitude, the chip on the shoulder, the cocky Ian Brown / Tim Burgess swagger. |
Maybe as a result, European away trips are usually a far cry from those endured by Ing-er-lund's often racist, jingoistic hooligans (often wrapped in their Stoke, Leeds, Millwall, West Ham, Bolton, Stockport or Man City flags). European Cup ties drawing United with German opposition normally receive equally jingoistic headlines from the British tabloid press, without actually reflecting the truth that United fans and those of Bayern, Dortmund and Stuttgart actually get on fine and have shared some fantastic Oktoberfest drinking & singing love-ins prior to previous games. |
Chants of 'Argentina!' long preceded Juan Veron's signing, 'We Are Manchester - Not England' flags traveled across Europe with the red army well before 1999, and 'The Republic Of Mancunia' was born many years before a banner in the Stretford End declared so. That famous United fan, Ian Brown, once sang, "There are no lions in England". That's certainly true in the red parts of Manchester! |
"Phil and I went straight out to have a look at the Wembley pitch and were greeted by a chorus of 'Stand Up If You Hate Man U'. We've had this abuse before playing for England, but over the last year it's got worse!" - Gary Neville in 1998[/size][/size]
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What? The United States is in the same boat. Social Security is set to be bankrupt within 20 years because of this entire welfare mess.Mustangt125 wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:If they are scouse not English then they should give up the tax revenue they receive from Her Majesty's Exchequer. The City of Liverpool is a city of parasites which leeches off the rich of the country, and they aren't even grateful for it. Much like the entire nation of Scotland.
A large percentage of England as a whole is living off the taxes paid by the rich due to your socialist policies and tendencies to lean toward nanny state programs.
Your game is tired already.
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Glen Damon wrote:What? The United States is in the same boat. Social Security is set to be bankrupt within 20 years because of this entire welfare mess.Mustangt125 wrote:
A large percentage of England as a whole is living off the taxes paid by the rich due to your socialist policies and tendencies to lean toward nanny state programs.
Your game is tired already.
The discussion was clearly focused on England, not America, although you are right, we are on a slower path than England toward it. Those riots that happened in London recently were due to kids mostly your ages that have had stuff given to them their entire lives, that was now being taken away because the country cannot afford it. England heading fast toward a nanny state, but not as fast as the French who just elected a bonafide socialist.
The point wasn't to divert this toward a politics discussion necessarily, but RR is blabbing about how Liverpool live on the back of England's rich, when in reality a large percentage of the people do.
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Alan wrote:
*Snip because of the madness*
What is your point exactly? That non Manchester United fans happen to dislike Manchester United?
Mustangt125 wrote:Glen Damon wrote:What?
The United States is in the same boat. Social Security is set to be
bankrupt within 20 years because of this entire welfare mess.
The
discussion was clearly focused on England, not America, although you
are right, we are on a slower path than England toward it. Those riots
that happened in London recently were due to kids mostly your ages that
have had stuff given to them their entire lives, that was now being
taken away because the country cannot afford it. England heading fast
toward a nanny state, but not as fast as the French who just elected a
bonafide socialist.
The point wasn't to divert this toward a
politics discussion necessarily, but RR is blabbing about how Liverpool
live on the back of England's rich, when in reality a large percentage
of the people do.
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Oh, sorry, I thought you were trying to have a dig at England. Apologies.Mustangt125 wrote:Glen Damon wrote:What? The United States is in the same boat. Social Security is set to be bankrupt within 20 years because of this entire welfare mess.
The discussion was clearly focused on England, not America, although you are right, we are on a slower path than England toward it. Those riots that happened in London recently were due to kids mostly your ages that have had stuff given to them their entire lives, that was now being taken away because the country cannot afford it. England heading fast toward a nanny state, but not as fast as the French who just elected a bonafide socialist.
The point wasn't to divert this toward a politics discussion necessarily, but RR is blabbing about how Liverpool live on the back of England's rich, when in reality a large percentage of the people do.
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My point is that once again, RR is only trying to have a go at just Liverpool and its fans.Laurencio wrote:Alan wrote:
*Snip because of the madness*
What is your point exactly? That non Manchester United fans happen to dislike Manchester United?
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Alan wrote:My point is that once again, RR is only trying to have a go at just Liverpool and its fans.Laurencio wrote:
What is your point exactly? That non Manchester United fans happen to dislike Manchester United?
Ok... how did what you posted do that?
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I think it showed that its not just Liverpool fans have something against the country they live in, and maybe its got something to do with the North-South divde than just blaming the Liverpool fans for not singing god save the queen.Laurencio wrote:Alan wrote:My point is that once again, RR is only trying to have a go at just Liverpool and its fans.
Ok... how did what you posted do that?
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I don't blame Liverpool fans for not singing it, I wouldn't sing it myself, I'm not a monarchist and I'm not religious, I find it absurd, but they should still show respect by being quiet, rather than actively trying to ruin it for everyone else.
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Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi,
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri;
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mad,
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed.
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri;
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mad,
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed.
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Mc Babel wrote:Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi,
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri;
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mad,
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed.
Another parasite nation.
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We would have been heavily criticised with if we didn't either. Bunch of cunts.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:
Yes and some clubs even pull out of the world's oldest cup competition and are a disgrace to it. And the other day i think it was yourself that said something about winning a small cup like the FA Cup, so fuck off with your bullshit and go and get Fergie the sack. And you are like a little bitch when it comes to Luis Suarez its pathetic.
Be fair Alan, the FA asked us to pull out of the FA Cup, and we did so because it was felt that it would help England get the 2006 World Cup. It was in the interests of the country, something I'm sure you as a Liverpool fan know nothing about.
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Mustangt125 wrote:Glen Damon wrote:What? The United States is in the same boat. Social Security is set to be bankrupt within 20 years because of this entire welfare mess.
The discussion was clearly focused on England, not America, although you are right, we are on a slower path than England toward it. Those riots that happened in London recently were due to kids mostly your ages that have had stuff given to them their entire lives, that was now being taken away because the country cannot afford it. England heading fast toward a nanny state, but not as fast as the French who just elected a bonafide socialist.
The point wasn't to divert this toward a politics discussion necessarily, but RR is blabbing about how Liverpool live on the back of England's rich, when in reality a large percentage of the people do.
Who told you that shit
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God save the Queen.
God kill Luis Suarez.
God kill Luis Suarez.
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Mustangt125 wrote:Glen Damon wrote:What? The United States is in the same boat. Social Security is set to be bankrupt within 20 years because of this entire welfare mess.
The discussion was clearly focused on England, not America, although you are right, we are on a slower path than England toward it. Those riots that happened in London recently were due to kids mostly your ages that have had stuff given to them their entire lives, that was now being taken away because the country cannot afford it. England heading fast toward a nanny state, but not as fast as the French who just elected a bonafide socialist.
The point wasn't to divert this toward a politics discussion necessarily, but RR is blabbing about how Liverpool live on the back of England's rich, when in reality a large percentage of the people do.
Benefits haven't been cut, the riots had nothing to do with what the country can no longer afford.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:If they are scouse not English then they should give up the tax revenue they receive from Her Majesty's Exchequer. The City of Liverpool is a city of parasites which leeches off the rich of the country, and they aren't even grateful for it. Much like the entire nation of Scotland.
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Splashy wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:If they are scouse not English then they should give up the tax revenue they receive from Her Majesty's Exchequer. The City of Liverpool is a city of parasites which leeches off the rich of the country, and they aren't even grateful for it. Much like the entire nation of Scotland.
Another idiot, is this great because of what the Liverpool or the Scottish part?
George Graham was a great scot and did not do a bad job for Arsenal.
Arsenal as a player
First Division (1): 1970–71
FA Cup (1): 1970–71
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup (1): 1969–70
As a manager
First Division (2): 1988–89, 1990–91
FA Cup (1): 1992–93
League Cup (2): 1986–87, 1992–93
FA Charity Shield (1): 1991 (shared)
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1994
Frank Mclintock also Scottish captained your club to a League and FA Cup double
With Arsenal
League Championship 1971 | |
| FA Cup 1971 | |
| European Fairs Cup 1970 |
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