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    Post by Grenade Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:01 pm

    Anderson is 23 years old and has played over 200 professional games. What "potential" is this you speak of ?
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:05 pm

    200 games???? also how many has he played back to back.


    EDIT: WOW!!! i aint trusting you again. i just went with what you said... what a fucking knob you are. i knew it was fishy so went to check and he has played 118 games in his career. at man utd has only played 81 times, the most he played a season was 24! thats his first season

    thanks again helping me prove my point
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    Post by Grenade Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:10 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:200 games???? also how many has he played back to back.


    EDIT: WOW!!! i aint trusting you again. i just went with what you said... what a fucking knob you are. i knew it was fishy so went to check and he has played 118 games in his career. at man utd has only played 81 times, the most he played a season was 24! thats his first season

    thanks again helping me prove my point

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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:12 pm

    yeah keep facepalming yourself
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    Post by Demoz Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:19 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    10RLegend wrote:Tbf, the game has changed. It's about buying stars and having some solid role players in today's game. Arsenal are probably the only team who are sticking to the traditional way

    yeah for scum clubs like city, madrid and chelsea

    we spend money when we dont have any potential. but we dont buy players if it means it blocks the progression of a player with huge potential.

    right now the 2 players that have that potential is cleverley and anderson, i would much rather see them given the chance then be replaced by £35m signing right away... give these players what they deserve, anderson has finally got his chance and if he stays free of injuries after his return then he will without a doubt get better by the end of the season and be better next season. Cleverley started out superb, just needs to more games to show what he can do

    now that we are out the CL there is even more reason not to buy in january. this squad with fergie is more then good enough to compete for the title and even win it. league titles are decided on games against the "lesser" clubs, not the big games. ask Liverpool

    I agree with your point on Anderson, he's got talent to get a lot better and become an all around midfielder. He's good at exploding out of the midfield into space. Hope to see him soon. This team is good enough to give City and Chelsea a challenge but being able to win it without Vidic will be nearly impossible. Crazy things always happen in the premier league though.

    Fergie probably won't buy in January, maybe he's thinking to wait until Euro '12 to spot some midfield talent.
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    Post by Grenade Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:16 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:yeah keep facepalming yourself
    Oh you just owned me HARD. Gonna go slit my wrists now.
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    Post by Kuled Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:34 pm

    Keane should shut up.
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:14 pm

    Kuled wrote:Keane should shut up.
    No he shouldn't, SAF was the one to talk shite and Keane is spot on, SAF showed no respecct to a player that gave him great service as one of our best players.
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    Post by Danny Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:37 pm

    What did Keane say apart from having a go at players like Smalling, Jones, Welbeck etc.. who hadn't done much wrong? shifty

    Apart from Smalling having a nightmare for both goals, even of the first one he was destroyed by Vidic. Dry Smile
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    Post by Grenade Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:44 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:200 games???? also how many has he played back to back.


    EDIT: WOW!!! i aint trusting you again. i just went with what you said... what a fucking knob you are. i knew it was fishy so went to check and he has played 118 games in his career. at man utd has only played 81 times, the most he played a season was 24! thats his first season

    thanks again helping me prove my point

    Also here's a link to a Wikipedia article on Anderson for your convenience.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Lu%C3%ADs_de_Abreu_Oliveira
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    Post by Danny Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:55 pm

    Viva's got a bit of a point. Despite the fact he's only bought up league appearances, when in fact when he played 24 league games he played 38 overall, he's not played over 30 games in all comps since 2009. Laughing
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    Post by Grenade Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:01 pm

    Danny wrote:Viva's got a bit of a point. Despite the fact he's only bought up league appearances, when in fact when he played 24 league games he played 38 overall, he's not played over 30 games in all comps since 2009. Laughing

    He played 30 games last season ?
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:02 pm

    The thing with Anderson is, when he starts to get some good form going he gets injured.
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    Post by Danny Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:03 pm

    grenade187 wrote:
    Danny wrote:Viva's got a bit of a point. Despite the fact he's only bought up league appearances, when in fact when he played 24 league games he played 38 overall, he's not played over 30 games in all comps since 2009. Laughing

    He played 30 games last season ?
    That's over 30 games?
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    Post by Grenade Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:09 pm

    Danny wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:

    He played 30 games last season ?
    That's over 30 games?

    You said he hasn't played over 30 games since 2009 ? He's played 30 games last season alone. He played some in the season before that too in 2010 ? Also he's played over 10 this season?
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    Post by Danny Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:12 pm

    Over 30 games in a season. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:13 pm

    Larnell Cole and Chicharito have travellend according to Nick Coppack
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:16 pm

    xi: De gea; smalling, evans, ferdinand, evra, valencia, jones, carrick, nani, rooney, welbeck
    subs: Berbatov, giggs, park, hernandez, young, lindegaard, fryers.

    Good bench if this really is the team.
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:17 pm

    if thats true then thats the first time we have named an unchanged team since the 2nd game of the season
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    Post by Grenade Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:19 pm

    Danny wrote:Over 30 games in a season. Neutral

    What exactly was your point again? Or the point you were agreeing with Viva about Suspect
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:19 pm

    Hernadez and Berbs back early Smile
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    Post by Kuled Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:19 pm

    kyro7 wrote:xi: De gea; smalling, evans, ferdinand, evra, valencia, jones, carrick, nani, rooney, welbeck
    subs: Berbatov, giggs, park, hernandez, young, lindegaard, fryers.

    Good bench if this really is the team.
    Good team.
    ViVaRooney wrote:if thats true then thats the first time we have named an unchanged team since the 2nd game of the season
    *3rd. I'm pretty sure we played the same team against Arsenal after the spurs game.
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:20 pm

    that he hasnt played consistently enough in any of the seasons

    young player needs to play consistently to get consistency, which is andersons biggest problem
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:21 pm

    Kuled wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:xi: De gea; smalling, evans, ferdinand, evra, valencia, jones, carrick, nani, rooney, welbeck
    subs: Berbatov, giggs, park, hernandez, young, lindegaard, fryers.

    Good bench if this really is the team.
    Good team.
    ViVaRooney wrote:if thats true then thats the first time we have named an unchanged team since the 2nd game of the season
    *3rd. I'm pretty sure we played the same team against Arsenal after the spurs game.

    you are correct
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:27 pm

    Keane quotes:

    Referring to his controversial MUTV interview of 2005 : "I swapped games with Gary Neville, I was meant to do Tottenham at home, Tottenham never win at Old Trafford, that would have been easy. But MUTV is dangerous, United get beaten 10-nil and let’s look on the bright side, let’s take the positive, it wasn’t 11. So I swap with Gary, I get the away game at Boro and it’s like, ‘Go easy on the lads here’. They were beaten 4-1 and I’ve got to say it was great that it wasn’t five."
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    On his relationship with Mr Alex Ferguson and his exit : "I look back at the relationship and I sometimes wonder if it wasn’t about me being good for him and good for the club. People say he stood by me in difficult times. But not when I was 34, not when I was towards the end and had a few differences with Carlos Queiroz. All of a sudden then, ‘Off you go, Roy, and here’s the statement we’ve done, and here this and here’s that’.”

    Absolutely [when asked if he believed he would not have been kicked out of the club had he made the comments when he was 27]. I had disagreements with the manager over many years. I remember one really bad one, I might have been 26 or 27, something happened at a Christmas do, it was a proper blazing row, but he dealt with it.

    Clever management, you recognise when players are really important to you.I go back to the two words, power and control. ‘Say this, Roy, do this, pull this in a little bit’, what I did or said was always for the good of the club. I suffered for that towards the end, then it was unacceptable. The difference was that I was 34."

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    On Ferguson's style of management: "People say Ferguson always does what’s right for Man United. I don’t think he does. I think he does what’s right for him. The Irish thing [Ferguson’s aborted legal action against John Magnier over the breeding rights to Coolmore Stud stallion Rock Of Gibraltar], I was speaking to the manager about it. This didn’t help the club, the manager going to law against its leading shareholder. How could it be of benefit to Man United? It wasn’t and we know what happened. What was that all about? Power and control. ‘They’ve used me, they’ve treated me badly’, Ferguson told me in his office. I said, ‘You’re not going to win’, and he said, ‘I don’t care, no-one does that to me’, and I go, ‘Okay, off you go, I’m not going to change your mind’. Amazing what happens."

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    On his refusal to attend Mr Ferguson's 25th Anniversary celebrations: "Anne Wiley, the club secretary, got in touch, but I didn’t go. Everyone to their own. Martin (O’Neill) said to me, ‘You’ve got to move on’, but I wouldn’t have felt comfortable. ‘No, not for me’, I said. I did get in touch with Anne, didn’t just not turn up. The way it ended, the legal letter, I couldn’t have gone and sat there like everything was great, he would come in and we all stand up and clap. I couldn’t do that."
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:31 pm

    so much bitterness in it all Laughing shame

    they are exactly the same Neutral sorry keane but at 34 you werent doing much, and if you are having ago at our players and assistant manager AND you arent providing on the pitch it will always be time for you to go


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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:33 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:200 games???? also how many has he played back to back.


    EDIT: WOW!!! i aint trusting you again. i just went with what you said... what a fucking knob you are. i knew it was fishy so went to check and he has played 118 games in his career. at man utd has only played 81 times, the most he played a season was 24! thats his first season

    thanks again helping me prove my point

    Grenade tends to make up things to back up his point.

    Kind of like the Santon incident.

    No need for the overreaction though, this is not drama class.
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:34 pm

    Scott wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:200 games???? also how many has he played back to back.


    EDIT: WOW!!! i aint trusting you again. i just went with what you said... what a fucking knob you are. i knew it was fishy so went to check and he has played 118 games in his career. at man utd has only played 81 times, the most he played a season was 24! thats his first season

    thanks again helping me prove my point

    Grenade tends to make up things to back up his point.

    Kind of like the Santon incident.

    No need for the overreaction though, this is not drama class.

    tbh in this case it was my bad Laughing i looked at the league appearances not all competitions Neutral
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:54 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:so much bitterness in it all Laughing shame

    they are exactly the same Neutral sorry keane but at 34 you werent doing much, and if you are having ago at our players and assistant manager AND you arent providing on the pitch it will always be time for you to go

    Just another example of it isn't it? Ferguson being unable to handle the truth.

    Thought this bit was interesting as well

    "People say Ferguson always does what’s right for Man United. I don’t think he does. I think he does what’s right for him. The Irish thing [Ferguson’s aborted legal action against John Magnier over the breeding rights to Coolmore Stud stallion Rock Of Gibraltar], I was speaking to the manager about it. This didn’t help the club, the manager going to law against its leading shareholder. How could it be of benefit to Man United? It wasn’t and we know what happened. What was that all about? Power and control. ‘They’ve used me, they’ve treated me badly’, Ferguson told me in his office. I said, ‘You’re not going to win’, and he said, ‘I don’t care, no-one does that to me’, and I go, ‘Okay, off you go, I’m not going to change your mind’. Amazing what happens."

    Everyone goes go on about how Ferguson always does what's right for United, what he's 'done for this club' and how we should be 'grateful' to him, the reality is that as far as he's concerned United is just a vessel in which he can achieve his own ambitions.
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:57 pm

    berba is so unlucky Laughing hernandez gets injured.. he gets injured

    berba comes back.. hernandez comes back unexpectedly early Laughing he just cant catch a break

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