Theo Filippo wrote:It did in 2002, 2006 and now 2012.dena wrote:
It is to me, is he one of the best in the world? Sure, but Messi scored 72 goals and Ronaldo 60. Winning an international tournament rarely affect the votes (see 2004, 2008, 2010) why should it now?
Zzonked wrote:Fuk dat.
ShakerMatty wrote:Zzonked wrote:Fuk dat.
Go to the dam.
akaranzo wrote:Fonseca wrote:
Deluded
You people underrate him, he really is one of the best players in the world. Messi is the best overall, of course, but since Spain won the Euros this year and Iniesta was a big part of that - it's not that big of a surprise.
Zzonked wrote:ShakerMatty wrote:
Go to the dam.
Probably the one I'm least likely to go to.
I reckon my dad will want to go to Madrid, I'd quite like Dortmund myself.
kyro7 wrote:
Drew wrote:I love when people criticize moments like this ^
We would be acting the same way. You're no better.
It's nothing to brag about. I call it just being normal and not obnoxiously narcissistic.kyro7 wrote:Wow you're incredible well done.
menalawyerguy wrote:What was Messi's reaction btw? I know it's his teammate and his boy and everything but I bet he was elated.
kyro7 wrote:Get over what? Anything he does you attack him.. it's so boring, apologies on his behalf for not putting on a fake smile and being real.
menalawyerguy wrote:Drew wrote:I love when people criticize moments like this ^
We would be acting the same way. You're no better.
Speak for yourself. I know for a fact I wouldn't. I've been passed on for accolades in favor of people I know I was more deserving than and I applauded them publicly. It's called character. Ronaldo doesn't have any. He's a selfish egomaniac who is too in love with himself to show any humility or grace.
crump wrote:Prediction: (No paticular group order)
Group 1:
AC Milan
Schalke
Anderlecht
Dinamo Zagreb
Group 2:
Porto
Dynamo Kiev
Olympiakos
Borussia Dortmund
Group 3:
Barcelona
Shakhtar Donetsk
Galatasaray
Montpellier
Group 4:
Arsenal
Braga
Spartak Moscow
FC Nordsjaelland
Group 5:
Bayern Munich
Manchester City
Juventus
BATE Borisov
Group 6:
Manchester United
Benfica
Lille
Malaga
Group 7:
Real Madrid
Zenit St Petersburg
Ajax
Celtic
Group 8:
Chelsea
Valencia
PSG
CFR Cluj
Tbf, he did say no particular group order.Weather130 wrote:crump wrote:Prediction: (No paticular group order)
Group 1:
AC Milan
Schalke
Anderlecht
Dinamo Zagreb
Group 2:
Porto
Dynamo Kiev
Olympiakos
Borussia Dortmund
Group 3:
Barcelona
Shakhtar Donetsk
Galatasaray
Montpellier
Group 4:
Arsenal
Braga
Spartak Moscow
FC Nordsjaelland
Group 5:
Bayern Munich
Manchester City
Juventus
BATE Borisov
Group 6:
Manchester United
Benfica
Lille
Malaga
Group 7:
Real Madrid
Zenit St Petersburg
Ajax
Celtic
Group 8:
Chelsea
Valencia
PSG
CFR Cluj
This post is proof of how hard it is to predict these draws. Too bad you forgot the television rules before you made this, you cannot have three premier league teams playing on the same match day. Then you labeled the groups 1-8 rather than A-H.
If you talking about Cannavaro 2006, I'd have to disagree. He was very good, and if you put in work like he did in the biggest stage...you deserve to be crowned best player.dena wrote:Theo Filippo wrote:It did in 2002, 2006 and now 2012.
2002 was deserved though, he was the best player in the world. 2006 and 2012 were simply wrong.
dena wrote:menalawyerguy wrote:
Speak for yourself. I know for a fact I wouldn't. I've been passed on for accolades in favor of people I know I was more deserving than and I applauded them publicly. It's called character. Ronaldo doesn't have any. He's a selfish egomaniac who is too in love with himself to show any humility or grace.
Was Iniesta more deserving than Ronaldo though? Messi yes, but Iniesta? I don't think so.
As far as personal achievements go, not really.menalawyerguy wrote:dena wrote:
Was Iniesta more deserving than Ronaldo though? Messi yes, but Iniesta? I don't think so.
Me neither. Ronaldo should have won it. Messi and he had equally impressive seasons and his team accomplished more. So he should have won.
Buffon was better in 2006.chiboygeorge wrote:If you talking about Cannavaro 2006, I'd have to disagree. He was very good, and if you put in work like he did in the biggest stage...you deserve to be crowned best player.dena wrote:
2002 was deserved though, he was the best player in the world. 2006 and 2012 were simply wrong.
It's a sad state of affairs when the whole situation of the greatest club tournament in the world is determined by the fucking TV.Danny wrote:Tbf, he did say no particular group order.Weather130 wrote:
This post is proof of how hard it is to predict these draws. Too bad you forgot the television rules before you made this, you cannot have three premier league teams playing on the same match day. Then you labeled the groups 1-8 rather than A-H.
With all the TV shit determining which team can be in which group, you've got absolutely no chance of predicting it correctly.
Why couldn't we have been in the group Arsenal got, we were put straight into Group H when we were the penultimate team out.
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