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Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
Carlos Jenkinson-
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Carlos Jenkinson Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:09 pm
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:13 pm
Rick Rosstrich wrote:Hart; Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Cole; Milner, Gerrard, Parker, Ox-C; Young; Welbeck.
Looks like that is the team.
I like that team. Solid defence and goalkeeper.
Just hope Chamberlain does better than his pathetic performance in the last match. If he plays like he does for Arsenal, then he'll be an important weapon for us.
Thought it was written everywhere that Downing would be starting?
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Jord Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:23 pm
Not trying to tart anything up here, but people go on about our injuries as if they are a problem. True they severely lower our depth, but none of the players injured deserved to start
Lampard - Would be great to have in the squad, but his inclusion in the starting 11 instantly diminishes Gerrards position and fucks up the entire system built around him and Parker.
Cahill - Good backup for the defence, however I believe Lescott is a much much better defender and far more experienced and in my opinion was the best English defender in the league last season.
Barry - A backup for Parker, simple as that.
Anyone who uses an these injuries as an excuse for anything other than depth(Most likely the English media) are idiots.
Lampard - Would be great to have in the squad, but his inclusion in the starting 11 instantly diminishes Gerrards position and fucks up the entire system built around him and Parker.
Cahill - Good backup for the defence, however I believe Lescott is a much much better defender and far more experienced and in my opinion was the best English defender in the league last season.
Barry - A backup for Parker, simple as that.
Anyone who uses an these injuries as an excuse for anything other than depth(Most likely the English media) are idiots.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Steadman Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:45 pm
I'd rather Lampard than Gerrard all day long, especially in a two man central midfield partnership.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:45 pm
Steadman wrote:I'd rather Lampard than Gerrard all day long, especially in a two man central midfield partnership.
Yeah, yeah, blah, blah.
Watch Gerrard be our best player until Rooney comes in.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Jord Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:47 pm
Of course you would.Steadman wrote:I'd rather Lampard than Gerrard all day long, especially in a two man central midfield partnership.
@Scott, I second that
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Steadman Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:50 pm
Why wouldn't you? Lampard just led Chelsea to win the Champions League and FA Cup, Gerrard has been inconsistent and plauged by injuries for a while now.
Do you still honestly think he suits playing that deep in midfield more than Lampard?
Do you still honestly think he suits playing that deep in midfield more than Lampard?
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:50 pm
Steadman wrote:I'd rather Lampard than Gerrard all day long, especially in a two man central midfield partnership.
Broken record as usual. I don't sing Gerrard's praises, but this is boring.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:51 pm
Steadman wrote:Why wouldn't you? Lampard just led Chelsea to win the Champions League and FA Cup, Gerrard has been inconsistent and plauged by injuries for a while now.
Do you still honestly think he suits playing that deep in midfield more than Lampard?
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Steadman Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:52 pm
His performances were outstanding since Di Matteo took over.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Steadman wrote:Why wouldn't you? Lampard just led Chelsea to win the Champions League and FA Cup, Gerrard has been inconsistent and plauged by injuries for a while now.
Do you still honestly think he suits playing that deep in midfield more than Lampard?
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:52 pm
He took up a different role and really excelled.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Steadman wrote:Why wouldn't you? Lampard just led Chelsea to win the Champions League and FA Cup, Gerrard has been inconsistent and plauged by injuries for a while now.
Do you still honestly think he suits playing that deep in midfield more than Lampard?
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:53 pm
If Chamberlain starts is that a 4-3-3 or is he just playing on the left of a 4-4-2?
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:53 pm
Yeah, okay.
Gerrard is still the better player to start.
Gerrard is still the better player to start.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Steadman Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:56 pm
Because his name is Steven Gerrard and plays for Liverpool?ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Yeah, okay.
Gerrard is still the better player to start.
I'm not saying he's a bad player but he should be challenging Young for the more advanced role if Lampard was fit.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:57 pm
Depends where it is, if it's more advanced then sure, but if it's next to Parker I'd pick Lampard.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Jord Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:57 pm
He took the bait quite easy. People grasp at the typical Gerrard/Lampard argument.Eternal Witcher wrote:Steadman wrote:I'd rather Lampard than Gerrard all day long, especially in a two man central midfield partnership.
Broken record as usual. I don't sing Gerrard's praises, but this is boring.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Jord Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:58 pm
Here we goSteadman wrote:Because his name is Steven Gerrard and plays for Liverpool?ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Yeah, okay.
Gerrard is still the better player to start.
I'm not saying he's a bad player but he should be challenging Young for the more advanced role if Lampard was fit.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:00 am
That first line is a pathetic, cheap shot. You child.
He did well the last two games and played a part in the goal Young scored in the first game by pressuring the opponent well.
Still standing by my comment about him being the best player for us until Rooney comes in. Watch him shine.
Cabaye has come out and said Gerrard is the most feared and important England player according to the French camp.
He did well the last two games and played a part in the goal Young scored in the first game by pressuring the opponent well.
Still standing by my comment about him being the best player for us until Rooney comes in. Watch him shine.
Cabaye has come out and said Gerrard is the most feared and important England player according to the French camp.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by crump Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:03 am
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:03 am
Lampard has been playing in a 4-2-3-1 next to Obi Mikel brilliantly for the last few months.
Gerrard has been a pile of shit in Liverpool's midfield.
Lampard better in the deep midfield role, Gerrard better in the hole. Anyone who think's different is a clown.
Gerrard has been a pile of shit in Liverpool's midfield.
Lampard better in the deep midfield role, Gerrard better in the hole. Anyone who think's different is a clown.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:03 am
ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:That first line is a pathetic, cheap shot. You child.
He did well the last two games and played a part in the goal Young scored in the first game by pressuring the opponent well.
Still standing by my comment about him being the best player for us until Rooney comes in. Watch him shine.
Cabaye has come out and said Gerrard is the most feared and important England player according to the French camp.
No
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Dr. Ján Ĩtor Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:05 am
I too would prefer lampard next to parker, muh more disciplined and a better possession footballer.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by menalawyerguy Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:06 am
Dr. Ján Ĩtor wrote:I too would prefer lampard next to parker, muh more disciplined and a better possession footballer.
Frank "shoot from anywhere inside of 30 meters" Lampard? That Lampard?
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Jord Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:07 am
Yet we all know that if both were fit that Hodgson would choose him over Lampard for the current role in midfield. But I suppose everyone else knows better than an experienced international manager.Chris wrote:Lampard has been playing in a 4-2-3-1 next to Obi Mikel brilliantly for the last few months.
Gerrard has been a pile of shit in Liverpool's midfield.
Lampard better in the deep midfield role, Gerrard better in the hole. Anyone who think's different is a clown.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:09 am
Not sure if some people commenting here have watched football in the last 6 months.
Gerrard has been a clown with a lot of Liverpool fans saying he should be dropped etc
Lampard has been a huge part of Chelsea winning the biggest trophy in club football and the FA Cup.
Gerrard has been a clown with a lot of Liverpool fans saying he should be dropped etc
Lampard has been a huge part of Chelsea winning the biggest trophy in club football and the FA Cup.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:10 am
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Steadman Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:11 am
His passing was average against Norway and Belgium. He lost possession because he tried too many long, driven through balls from far too deep when all he had to do was play a simple pass and move into space. He also leaves far too many gaps for good opposition to exploit when playing in a two man midfield. Lampard is much more tactically disciplined than Gerard and is more suited playing next to Parker.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:That first line is a pathetic, cheap shot. You child.
He did well the last two games and played a part in the goal Young scored in the first game by pressuring the opponent well.
Still standing by my comment about him being the best player for us until Rooney comes in. Watch him shine.
Cabaye has come out and said Gerrard is the most feared and important England player according to the French camp.
Who cares what Cabaye says? Didn't Zidane once say Gerard was the best player in the world? Doesn't mean a thing.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by The Zlatan Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:12 am
From a neutral point of view, Lampard should play instead of Gerrard in a two man midfield.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:12 am
Steadman wrote:His passing was average against Norway and Denmark. He lost possession because he tried too many long, driven through balls from far too deep when all he had to do was play a simple pass and move into space. He also leaves far too many gaps for good opposition to exploit when playing in a two man midfield. Lampard is much more tactically disciplined than Gerard and is more suited playing next to Parker.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:That first line is a pathetic, cheap shot. You child.
He did well the last two games and played a part in the goal Young scored in the first game by pressuring the opponent well.
Still standing by my comment about him being the best player for us until Rooney comes in. Watch him shine.
Cabaye has come out and said Gerrard is the most feared and important England player according to the French camp.
Who cares what Cabaye says? Didn't Zidane once say Gerard was the best player in the world? Doesn't mean a thing.
Who cares what you say? Doesn't mean a thing.
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Re: Euro 2012 | France vs. England | Monday 11 June 2012
by Guest Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:12 am
This is not Gerrard in a deep midfield role scott.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:
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