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    Neymar joins Barcelona?

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    Post by Guest Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:34 pm

    luke. wrote:I'm not making claims about his quality, am I?
    I never said you was.

    I have watched enough of Neymar to know he is just another Robinho.
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    Post by Mister Moustache Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:40 pm

    How many matches have you seen him play?
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    Post by El_indian Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:40 pm

    luke. wrote:I'm sure you watch him on a regular basis.

    no I don't, I'm basing my claims on his performances at the Copa


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    Post by Guest Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:41 pm

    Mister Moustache wrote:How many matches have you seen him play?
    I don't keep count.

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    Post by Mister Moustache Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:42 pm

    Splashy wrote:
    Mister Moustache wrote:How many matches have you seen him play?
    I don't keep count.

    Make an estimation.
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    Post by Guest Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:44 pm

    Mister Moustache wrote:
    Splashy wrote:
    Mister Moustache wrote:How many matches have you seen him play?
    I don't keep count.

    Make an estimation.

    Around 20, maybe more.
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    Post by Grenade Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:44 pm

    luke. wrote:I'm sure you watch him on a regular basis.
    confused How does that work ?
    I don't watch Sturridge on a regular basis but know I think its fair to say he's not good enough for Barca.
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    Post by Hitchy Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:13 pm

    Mc Babel wrote:
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    Dan wrote:He was at JLA on deadline day.

    I doubt it.

    He was. It was on twitter.
    Heard he was signing for Everton to partner Klose. Kenwright broke open the piggy bank.
    Yeah, he chose us over Liverpool since he didn't think he would get much game time after you guys signed Mata, Aguero and Ashley Young
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    Post by Guest Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:36 pm

    Luke questioning peoples opinions on the quality of players after he gets most of his info off youtube. Laughing
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    Post by Childish Logic Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:37 pm

    Hitchy wrote:
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    Dan wrote:He was at JLA on deadline day.

    I doubt it.

    He was. It was on twitter.
    Heard he was signing for Everton to partner Klose. Kenwright broke open the piggy bank.
    Yeah, he chose us over Liverpool since he didn't think he would get much game time after you guys signed Mata, Aguero and Ashley Young

    BOOOOOOOM Sit the fuck down babel
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    Post by Kuled Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:46 pm

    Hitchy wrote:
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    Dan wrote:He was at JLA on deadline day.

    I doubt it.

    He was. It was on twitter.
    Heard he was signing for Everton to partner Klose. Kenwright broke open the piggy bank.
    Yeah, he chose us over Liverpool since he didn't think he would get much game time after you guys signed Mata, Aguero and Ashley Young
    ooooooooooooooh
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    Post by Demba Ba Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:13 pm

    Splashy wrote:Neymar is overrated.

    I'd agree with this. He has a lot of skill and he can display some magic football, but I wouldn't rate his overall game as highly as many seem to do.
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    Post by Kuled Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:32 pm

    I highly doubt that the majority on this forum have seen Neymar play a full match let alone a season
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    Post by Demba Ba Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:48 pm

    Kuled wrote:I highly doubt that the majority on this forum have seen Neymar play a full match let alone a season

    I've seen him play, but I will admit that I have only seen him a few times. I'm not going to lie about how many times I've seen a player.
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    Post by Andrés Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:56 pm

    As covered the story too.

    http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/santos-niega-venta-neymar-barcelona/20110904dasdaiftb_17/Tes

    Looks like a load of nonsense to me, the only quote in the whole article is from Santos' president:

    Es totalmente falso. Es una información que no es cierta. Yo no he firmado nada ni el Santos tampoco. Y estoy seguro de que Neymar tampoco.

    Which roughly translates to: It's false information, nobody has signed anything.
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    Post by Guest Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:17 pm

    As much as I expected. Although someone told me yesterday that the story in the original link should be trusted, but I still don't expect much to come of it.

    Oh, and people are entitled to their opinions on Neymar, but only to an extent. Anyone who says Neymar is just another Robinho doesn't have a clue. Comparing Neymar at 19 to Robinho at 19 is like comparing a mountain to a molehill.


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    Post by Jamie Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:38 am

    Kuled wrote:I highly doubt that the majority on this forum have seen Neymar play a full match let alone a season

    I reckon a lot have seen many matches.

    Think some are overreacting to the limited games they've seen though.
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    Post by XavIniesta_6 Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:05 am

    Most people that have seen Neymar play has been through youtube. But I know how good of a player he is, he has certain attributes that would help him fit in at Barcelona but he lacks a few other things as well. I just wouldn't want him at Barcelona. Let Cuenca blossom and come through the ranks than buy another high profile player.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:12 am

    XavIniesta_6 wrote:Most people that have seen Neymar play has been through youtube. But I know how good of a player he is, he has certain attributes that would help him fit in at Barcelona but he lacks a few other things as well. I just wouldn't want him at Barcelona. Let Cuenca blossom and come through the ranks than buy another high profile player.

    And why wouldn't you want one of the biggest talents in world football?
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    Post by Jamie Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:18 am

    It would kill Cuenca's career.
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    Post by XavIniesta_6 Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:00 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    XavIniesta_6 wrote:Most people that have seen Neymar play has been through youtube. But I know how good of a player he is, he has certain attributes that would help him fit in at Barcelona but he lacks a few other things as well. I just wouldn't want him at Barcelona. Let Cuenca blossom and come through the ranks than buy another high profile player.

    And why wouldn't you want one of the biggest talents in world football?

    Your asking why don't I want him, you should be asking why Barcelona doesn't need him. There are a few things I don't like about him.

    1. His attitude and his ego. He doesn't have the discipline (yet) or the work rate to play for Barcelona. We know he would be playing on the wings but does he run as much as Villa, Pedro and Sanchez?

    2. He is a player who likes getting the ball at his feet most of the time instead of running off the shoulders of a defender. Though it could give the team more unpredictability, he chooses the wrong times to dribble and still needs to grow up in that aspect. Not to mention it would slow down the play.

    3. His service for now is absolutely shit, he wastes the ball a lot.

    The B team has players they can groom into playing on the wings like I said concerning Cuenca. Neymar would be too much money anyway, mark my words he'll be a Madridista by January.
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    Post by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:34 am

    Neymar fits perfectly in Real's system.
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    Post by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:43 am

    I stand by my Neymar comment, I think he is a good player but I don't rate him as highly as a lot of other people do. Every time I watch Neymar he reminds me of Robinho and imo he will be Robinho V2, which isn't really a bad thing because Robinho is a still a good player.

    In 3 or 4 years if Neymar does become one of the best players in the world I will admit I was wrong but I doubt I will have to do that. People need to get their tongue out of Neymar's ass.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:00 am

    I agree with Splashy, he shows pieces of brilliance, but for the most part I've seen him dribble into players and lose the ball, or try too many stepovers and falls or some shit like that. Hes only 19 though, long way to go.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:07 am

    XavIniesta_6 wrote:
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    XavIniesta_6 wrote:Most people that have seen Neymar play has been through youtube. But I know how good of a player he is, he has certain attributes that would help him fit in at Barcelona but he lacks a few other things as well. I just wouldn't want him at Barcelona. Let Cuenca blossom and come through the ranks than buy another high profile player.

    And why wouldn't you want one of the biggest talents in world football?

    Your asking why don't I want him, you should be asking why Barcelona doesn't need him. There are a few things I don't like about him.

    1. His attitude and his ego. He doesn't have the discipline (yet) or the work rate to play for Barcelona. We know he would be playing on the wings but does he run as much as Villa, Pedro and Sanchez?

    2. He is a player who likes getting the ball at his feet most of the time instead of running off the shoulders of a defender. Though it could give the team more unpredictability, he chooses the wrong times to dribble and still needs to grow up in that aspect. Not to mention it would slow down the play.

    3. His service for now is absolutely shit, he wastes the ball a lot.

    The B team has players they can groom into playing on the wings like I said concerning Cuenca. Neymar would be too much money anyway, mark my words he'll be a Madridista by January.

    I asked your opinion because you don't represent Barcelona lol

    I don't see the difference between his discipline with the other Barcelona players, he knows he can go to any club in the world and is among the best at Santos.. So obviously when he doesn't get what he wants he's going to overreact. At Barcelona he knows he'll have to behave more.

    He's 19 for gods sake, Messi wasn't doing the same at his age... he'll be a world beater obviously

    I wouldn't say so... he finishes stuff clinically also, in the flamengo game he finished off most of his chances whilst making a mockery... Not that I would know if he's clinical or not

    If Pep wasn't here I doubt people who really care if they stopped a youngsters development
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    Post by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:24 am

    Call me controversial, but Messi was as equal as Ronaldinho when he was 19/20.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:26 am

    ahlycotc wrote:Call me controversial, but Messi was as equal as Ronaldinho when he was 19/20.

    You are controversial.
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    Post by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:28 am

    ahlycotc wrote:Call me controversial, but Messi was as equal as Ronaldinho when he was 19/20.

    But that's only because Ronaldinho peaked early.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:28 am

    ahlycotc wrote:Call me controversial, but Messi was as equal as Ronaldinho when he was 19/20.

    Hold on you mean Messi was on Ronaldinho's level when they were both that age or on Ronaldinho's level when they were both at Barcelona?

    If it's the second one then lol just lol
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    Post by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:29 am

    Messi at 19/20 was equal to Ronaldinho at whatever age he was when he was still at Barca. The only thing that was stopping Messi from showing that was his injuries. But the quality was still there.

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