Roman Abramovich.

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VivaRonaldo wrote:

Kuled wrote:This forum is being ruined by retards (not you Viva)

Mostly BigAndy and Splashy who have an agenda against me since they've been banned from EA.

But I'll just ignore them...

cheesy wrote:I would not agree with the first part, but definitely with the second.

Abramovic is not a Vladimir Romanov. When I say that, I mean that he does not take complete control of the team. He has control in a way that he probably influences managers and it's obvious he has a big say in the transfers. As far as picking the team goes, the managers do that. Would the managers stick around if they were puppets? When you consider the stature of some of them, the answer is no. If Jose Mourinho hadn't of been picking the team, then he would have left a lot earlier than he eventually did.

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LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:Here we go....

BigAndy9 wrote:

, This is a good question



And yes he does have more say on the squad than the manager. not necceseraly the starting XI, He is going to drive Chelsea into the ground ruining many people careers along the way, Villa Boas is gonna get the sack at the end of the year, Abromavich isn't gonna give him anytime, And pretty soon he will find himself in a position where nobody will want to come and manage at Chelsea, Why would any manager go over their and risk their careers?

Do you think there isn't a managerial model at Chelsea? One of the world's biggest clubs? This is what people fail to see. We run differently to other clubs, our model is different. Gourlay has mentioned this. In order to succeed as a manager you also need to take risks, you won't get anywhere by playing it safe your whole career. Oh, and do you think Courtois & Romeu are 'Roman' signings? Ancelotti was always talking up Torres, and Ramires & Luiz were clearly both bought on Carlo's request. Roman doesn't just go out and buy players for the sake of it, most of the time it's because his manager has asked for him, there was the rare case, like Shevchenko, who Mourinho claims was thrust upon him, but I'm not going to criticise him for putting so much money into the club with such a great return. Villas-Boas won't be sacked, If he doesn't do well, he'll see out his 2 year contract, and leave at the end.

He's doing pretty well for a man who is going to run Chelsea into the ground

Villa Boas will be gone by the end of the season, He's gonna have a good season don't get me wrong but he aint gonna live up to what Abromavich expects, If Avram Grant got the boot after what was a brilliant season then whats going to stop him sacking Villa Boas? He aint gonna change his ways anytime soon. And the reason I say he is running the club into the ground is that nobody wants to manage Chelsea, you're gonna be stuck with "second-string" managers who are only going as it is a step-up as nobody who is seen as World Class are going to want to take the risk.

Splashy wrote:

VivaRonaldo wrote:

Kuled wrote:This forum is being ruined by retards (not you Viva)

Mostly BigAndy and Splashy who have an agenda against me since they've been banned from EA.

But I'll just ignore them...

luke. wrote:Also, Villas-Boas has a lot more freedom at the club then previous managers have had.

luke. wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:Here we go....

BigAndy9 wrote:

, This is a good question



And yes he does have more say on the squad than the manager. not necceseraly the starting XI, He is going to drive Chelsea into the ground ruining many people careers along the way, Villa Boas is gonna get the sack at the end of the year, Abromavich isn't gonna give him anytime, And pretty soon he will find himself in a position where nobody will want to come and manage at Chelsea, Why would any manager go over their and risk their careers?

Do you think there isn't a managerial model at Chelsea? One of the world's biggest clubs? This is what people fail to see. We run differently to other clubs, our model is different. Gourlay has mentioned this. In order to succeed as a manager you also need to take risks, you won't get anywhere by playing it safe your whole career. Oh, and do you think Courtois & Romeu are 'Roman' signings? Ancelotti was always talking up Torres, and Ramires & Luiz were clearly both bought on Carlo's request. Roman doesn't just go out and buy players for the sake of it, most of the time it's because his manager has asked for him, there was the rare case, like Shevchenko, who Mourinho claims was thrust upon him, but I'm not going to criticise him for putting so much money into the club with such a great return. Villas-Boas won't be sacked, If he doesn't do well, he'll see out his 2 year contract, and leave at the end.

He's doing pretty well for a man who is going to run Chelsea into the ground

Villa Boas will be gone by the end of the season, He's gonna have a good season don't get me wrong but he aint gonna live up to what Abromavich expects, If Avram Grant got the boot after what was a brilliant season then whats going to stop him sacking Villa Boas? He aint gonna change his ways anytime soon. And the reason I say he is running the club into the ground is that nobody wants to manage Chelsea, you're gonna be stuck with "second-string" managers who are only going as it is a step-up as nobody who is seen as World Class are going to want to take the risk.

Grant was always going to get the boot. He didn't change anything after Mourinho left, and if Grant is really the right choice for Chelsea, then I must ask you, how did he do at West Ham? Grant wasn't going to be a long-term appointment, the players didn't like him for a start, he wasn't even properly qualified for the job. Nobody wants to manage Chelsea? Well, if nobody wants to manage us then Roman must have some charm getting all these managers to work for him.

cheesy wrote:World class managers will always be attracted to the Chelsea job, so they will not end up being stuck with second string managers at all.

There will always be money on offer, so at the end of the day it's a no lose situation for them. If an experienced manager like Guus Hiddink went to Chelsea, had a poor season and got the sack, plenty of jobs would still be on offer for him. Most managers have a bad spell at some point in their career, so it doesn't largely diminish their reputation.

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:



, This is a good question



And yes he does have more say on the squad than the manager. not necceseraly the starting XI, He is going to drive Chelsea into the ground ruining many people careers along the way, Villa Boas is gonna get the sack at the end of the year, Abromavich isn't gonna give him anytime, And pretty soon he will find himself in a position where nobody will want to come and manage at Chelsea, Why would any manager go over their and risk their careers?

Do you think there isn't a managerial model at Chelsea? One of the world's biggest clubs? This is what people fail to see. We run differently to other clubs, our model is different. Gourlay has mentioned this. In order to succeed as a manager you also need to take risks, you won't get anywhere by playing it safe your whole career. Oh, and do you think Courtois & Romeu are 'Roman' signings? Ancelotti was always talking up Torres, and Ramires & Luiz were clearly both bought on Carlo's request. Roman doesn't just go out and buy players for the sake of it, most of the time it's because his manager has asked for him, there was the rare case, like Shevchenko, who Mourinho claims was thrust upon him, but I'm not going to criticise him for putting so much money into the club with such a great return. Villas-Boas won't be sacked, If he doesn't do well, he'll see out his 2 year contract, and leave at the end.

He's doing pretty well for a man who is going to run Chelsea into the ground

Villa Boas will be gone by the end of the season, He's gonna have a good season don't get me wrong but he aint gonna live up to what Abromavich expects, If Avram Grant got the boot after what was a brilliant season then whats going to stop him sacking Villa Boas? He aint gonna change his ways anytime soon. And the reason I say he is running the club into the ground is that nobody wants to manage Chelsea, you're gonna be stuck with "second-string" managers who are only going as it is a step-up as nobody who is seen as World Class are going to want to take the risk.

Grant was always going to get the boot. He didn't change anything after Mourinho left, and if Grant is really the right choice for Chelsea, then I must ask you, how did he do at West Ham? Grant wasn't going to be a long-term appointment, the players didn't like him for a start, he wasn't even properly qualified for the job. Nobody wants to manage Chelsea? Well, if nobody wants to manage us then Roman must have some charm getting all these managers to work for him.

Only manager to get Chelsea to the final of a CL?

2nd in the prem missing out by 2 pts, He also got you to Wembley didn't he?

Seems like some pretty good results as well considering that the players didn't even like him, If he would have been given more time, those results could only have got better.

His charms going to run out soon, If Villa Boas gets the boot then I highly doubt anybody who has the correct credentials will take the job, It is not worth the risk for anyone, Managers aren't going to want to move thier family to a brand new country for a job that very well could be goine 12 months down the line.

LFC_Grunners wrote:

cheesy wrote:World class managers will always be attracted to the Chelsea job, so they will not end up being stuck with second string managers at all.

There will always be money on offer, so at the end of the day it's a no lose situation for them. If an experienced manager like Guus Hiddink went to Chelsea, had a poor season and got the sack, plenty of jobs would still be on offer for him. Most managers have a bad spell at some point in their career, so it doesn't largely diminish their reputation.

It's not just about their repuatations but also their personal life, Would you move along with your family to a brand new country with the history that Abromavich has of firing managers? odds are you will be packing your bags again 12 months later.

LFC_Grunners wrote:

cheesy wrote:World class managers will always be attracted to the Chelsea job, so they will not end up being stuck with second string managers at all.

There will always be money on offer, so at the end of the day it's a no lose situation for them. If an experienced manager like Guus Hiddink went to Chelsea, had a poor season and got the sack, plenty of jobs would still be on offer for him. Most managers have a bad spell at some point in their career, so it doesn't largely diminish their reputation.

It's not just about their repuatations but also their personal life, Would you move along with your family to a brand new country with the history that Abromavich has of firing managers? odds are you will be packing your bags again 12 months later.

luke. wrote:He plans to retire within about 10-15 years.

luke. wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:

Do you think there isn't a managerial model at Chelsea? One of the world's biggest clubs? This is what people fail to see. We run differently to other clubs, our model is different. Gourlay has mentioned this. In order to succeed as a manager you also need to take risks, you won't get anywhere by playing it safe your whole career. Oh, and do you think Courtois & Romeu are 'Roman' signings? Ancelotti was always talking up Torres, and Ramires & Luiz were clearly both bought on Carlo's request. Roman doesn't just go out and buy players for the sake of it, most of the time it's because his manager has asked for him, there was the rare case, like Shevchenko, who Mourinho claims was thrust upon him, but I'm not going to criticise him for putting so much money into the club with such a great return. Villas-Boas won't be sacked, If he doesn't do well, he'll see out his 2 year contract, and leave at the end.

He's doing pretty well for a man who is going to run Chelsea into the ground

Villa Boas will be gone by the end of the season, He's gonna have a good season don't get me wrong but he aint gonna live up to what Abromavich expects, If Avram Grant got the boot after what was a brilliant season then whats going to stop him sacking Villa Boas? He aint gonna change his ways anytime soon. And the reason I say he is running the club into the ground is that nobody wants to manage Chelsea, you're gonna be stuck with "second-string" managers who are only going as it is a step-up as nobody who is seen as World Class are going to want to take the risk.

Grant was always going to get the boot. He didn't change anything after Mourinho left, and if Grant is really the right choice for Chelsea, then I must ask you, how did he do at West Ham? Grant wasn't going to be a long-term appointment, the players didn't like him for a start, he wasn't even properly qualified for the job. Nobody wants to manage Chelsea? Well, if nobody wants to manage us then Roman must have some charm getting all these managers to work for him.

Only manager to get Chelsea to the final of a CL?

2nd in the prem missing out by 2 pts, He also got you to Wembley didn't he?

Seems like some pretty good results as well considering that the players didn't even like him, If he would have been given more time, those results could only have got better.

His charms going to run out soon, If Villa Boas gets the boot then I highly doubt anybody who has the correct credentials will take the job, It is not worth the risk for anyone, Managers aren't going to want to move thier family to a brand new country for a job that very well could be goine 12 months down the line.

I'll put it this way; It was basically like he was flying a plane that was on auto-pilot, he didn't change anything from Mourinho's set-up. The plane can't fly forever though.

As long as Chelsea stay successful in Europe and in England, managers will be lining up for the job. Rafa Benitez reportedly wanted it desperately, but was denied, Hiddink could come back, but his age might stop him now, and then there's even the possibility of a Mourinho return.

cheesy wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

cheesy wrote:World class managers will always be attracted to the Chelsea job, so they will not end up being stuck with second string managers at all.

There will always be money on offer, so at the end of the day it's a no lose situation for them. If an experienced manager like Guus Hiddink went to Chelsea, had a poor season and got the sack, plenty of jobs would still be on offer for him. Most managers have a bad spell at some point in their career, so it doesn't largely diminish their reputation.

It's not just about their repuatations but also their personal life, Would you move along with your family to a brand new country with the history that Abromavich has of firing managers? odds are you will be packing your bags again 12 months later.

Most of them do. Scolari did it and even though he was manager for longer, Ancelotti did it as well.

As I say, any Chelsea manager is going to be receiving unrivalled wages; therefore I don't think his family will be too bothered about moving to a different country, especially when it's a relatviely decent country when compared to others.

luke. wrote:Yes.

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

luke. wrote:

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Villa Boas will be gone by the end of the season, He's gonna have a good season don't get me wrong but he aint gonna live up to what Abromavich expects, If Avram Grant got the boot after what was a brilliant season then whats going to stop him sacking Villa Boas? He aint gonna change his ways anytime soon. And the reason I say he is running the club into the ground is that nobody wants to manage Chelsea, you're gonna be stuck with "second-string" managers who are only going as it is a step-up as nobody who is seen as World Class are going to want to take the risk.

Grant was always going to get the boot. He didn't change anything after Mourinho left, and if Grant is really the right choice for Chelsea, then I must ask you, how did he do at West Ham? Grant wasn't going to be a long-term appointment, the players didn't like him for a start, he wasn't even properly qualified for the job. Nobody wants to manage Chelsea? Well, if nobody wants to manage us then Roman must have some charm getting all these managers to work for him.

Only manager to get Chelsea to the final of a CL?

2nd in the prem missing out by 2 pts, He also got you to Wembley didn't he?

Seems like some pretty good results as well considering that the players didn't even like him, If he would have been given more time, those results could only have got better.

His charms going to run out soon, If Villa Boas gets the boot then I highly doubt anybody who has the correct credentials will take the job, It is not worth the risk for anyone, Managers aren't going to want to move thier family to a brand new country for a job that very well could be goine 12 months down the line.

I'll put it this way; It was basically like he was flying a plane that was on auto-pilot, he didn't change anything from Mourinho's set-up. The plane can't fly forever though.

As long as Chelsea stay successful in Europe and in England, managers will be lining up for the job. Rafa Benitez reportedly wanted it desperately, but was denied, Hiddink could come back, but his age might stop him now, and then there's even the possibility of a Mourinho return.

I think Grant could have adjusted Mourinho's tactics as as time went on, imo it was the right choice to keep the team operating like under Mourinho, and it proved to be a succesful season, A CL final, League cup final and 2nd in the prem is great. The players were used to the tactic and they worked under Grant as well why change something that isn't broken?

Also I doubt that Mourinho will ever return out of his own personal pride, He's just that kinda guy, and I doubt Rafa could have hacked it under Abromavich, he depised the fact the 2 cowboys kept on interfeering at Liverpool,

cheesy wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:

cheesy wrote:World class managers will always be attracted to the Chelsea job, so they will not end up being stuck with second string managers at all.

There will always be money on offer, so at the end of the day it's a no lose situation for them. If an experienced manager like Guus Hiddink went to Chelsea, had a poor season and got the sack, plenty of jobs would still be on offer for him. Most managers have a bad spell at some point in their career, so it doesn't largely diminish their reputation.

It's not just about their repuatations but also their personal life, Would you move along with your family to a brand new country with the history that Abromavich has of firing managers? odds are you will be packing your bags again 12 months later.

Most of them do. Scolari did it and even though he was manager for longer, Ancelotti did it as well.

As I say, any Chelsea manager is going to be receiving unrivalled wages; therefore I don't think his family will be too bothered about moving to a different country, especially when it's a relatviely decent country when compared to others.

The more he fires manager the less appealing the job becomes though, Ranieri, Mourinho, Grant, Scolari, Ancelotti all were wrongly fired Villa Boas will be next to join this list, Personally I wouldn't take the job with a history like that.

luke. wrote:That's not the clubs model. I've already told you this.