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    Post by Lux Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:19 pm

    The Bat-Man wrote:English clubs recorded something like a £1 billion loss last season, only two clubs that made a profit are Arsenal and Wolves, you can't keep doing that, their owners will pull the plug because they'll realise, wait a minute, the mythical billion pound TV revenue will never come, why the fuck am I wasting my money, so they will stop financial support of their clubs and most of the clubs will die.

    Cept for Arsenal, they will rule supreme.


    Lol.

    There are three kinds of managers.

    Those who love football, but are not rich enough to fund the club.
    Those who love football, and are filthy rich.
    Those who are in it for money, and rip the club off for every penny they can get. Sometimes that means they will spend money..but ultimately they want their money back, with interest.

    Generally speaking...so what if these clubs make a loss? In the end, if the owner is willing to cover that loss then that is up to him. Football is a sport primarily, then a business (or that's how it should be anyway).

    As the game grows in other parts of the world, there will be more money in it..and the Premier League is probably going to be the biggest beneficent of that.

    polska. wrote:I like this English superior than thou attitude. Laughing

    I'm sure that humans say that to super man too. Either way, England's league is superior to Italy/Germany/France's so the attitude comes with it.. Dry Smile

    polska. wrote:I prefer the Serie A to the EPL, but the EPL is better.

    Germany speaks for itself. Seeing how much it has improved over the last decade and a half, and how many quality players play in Germany nowadays, and how well managed the league and it's clubs are.. it would be foolish to think they would suddenly stop. As for France.. well, alot can happen in twenty years. Plus I think your being idiotic for dismissing Ligue 1 players like that. A rather large number of Ligue 1 players would have no trouble finding success in the EPL or any other league for that matter.

    I don't see that much of an improvement in German football. Bayern is still a big club...like 10 years ago...and from time to time they make it all the way in Europe.

    Other than that....where is the difference? There has always been a few decent German sides...there has been expansion for some clubs such as Hoffenheim but the same can be said of England. There is more money in Germany...but even more is going to England.

    Once players in Germany prove themselves, they go to Bayern or they go to whatever big club approaches them. Even when Dortmund, or Wolfsburg or whoever win the league...they don't want to stay they want to move. Same with Lille in France too.

    Ligue 1 players could play in England...I never said they couldn't. But some players have that mentality where...if they're at big French club they are happy there...and there is no incentive for them to move to a mid table English team. On the other hand...some do find incentive in that...

    Sure, you have some players like Bastos where you're thinking "They would beast at Arsenal"....but it's not like they have been approached by an English team and they have said "No Thanks, I would rather stay at Lyon". etc...to move, they need to be bought...

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    More likely that our co efficient will be even higher, and we're already at the top.

    You seem to have left out Arsenal Neutral

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    Post by The Bat-Man Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:48 pm

    So you think owners are okay with losing 100 million a year, they'll just through money in to it right, who cares if they go bankrupt.

    Bloody hell I wish I was as simple as you mate.
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    Post by Lux Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:52 pm

    The Bat-Man wrote:So you think owners are okay with losing 100 million a year, they'll just through money in to it right, who cares if they go bankrupt.

    Bloody hell I wish I was as simple as you mate.

    The Sheikhs don't care, it is pocket money to them.

    Like I said, some owners want to spend their money on a football club and don't expect anything in return.

    I never said every owner is ok with losing £100m a year, but the fact is that almost no club owner loses that much money every year. Some clubs have problems above their owners means...that is obviously a problem but that is not just English clubs...you can't base an argument on English football declining on that.

    I wish I was as complicatedly dumb as you mate scratch
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    Post by El Jefe Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:54 pm

    PSG on FM next year wank 2
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    Post by The Bat-Man Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:59 pm

    Lux wrote:The Sheikhs don't care, it is pocket money to them.

    Like I said, some owners want to spend their money on a football club and don't expect anything in return.

    They are business men in the end, they want to make money, maybe my fellow Arabs have bucket loads but not ever club has an Arab owning them.

    Lux wrote:I never said every owner is ok with losing £100m a year, but the fact is that almost no club owner loses that much money every year.

    I wish I was as complicatedly dumb as you mate scratch

    Newcastle, West Ham, Villa. They all recorded huge losses without having any form of income big enough to balance it out.

    Look what happened to Pompey, spending money they don't have.

    If you know anything about business you would know this kind of spending will never last, never in a million years, one day they will have to pay for all the debts they've acculilated and they won't be able to, they'll go into administration and will have to fold the club.

    It's quite simple really, English clubs will have to learn to spend only the money they earn.
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    Post by Lux Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:10 pm

    The Bat-Man wrote:They are business men in the end, they want to make money, maybe my fellow Arabs have bucket loads but not ever club has an Arab owning them.

    Every business man has his pleasures. They buy yachts, they buy cars...they don't expect a return on those scratch

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    Newcastle, West Ham, Villa. They all recorded huge losses without having any form of income big enough to balance it out.

    Look what happened to Pompey, spending money they don't have.

    If you know anything about business you would know this kind of spending will never last, never in a million years, one day they will have to pay for all the debts they've acculilated and they won't be able to, they'll go into administration and will have to fold the club.

    It's quite simple really, English clubs will have to learn to spend only the money they earn.

    Pompey aren't as big as those clubs. The simple fact is...these clubs are too big to go bust. However much money is owed....someone rich enough will buy the club and keep it going. None of the owners of Villa, West Ham or Newcastle are mega mega rich..yet they still keep spending and that is because they can afford to have the debt.

    Maybe it will all catch up with them....but like I said you have these mega rich guys who can wipe these debts clean easily..so as long as there is that interest then these clubs will survive.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:13 am

    PalermoOffside Palermo Offside
    Reports say the official announcement of the deal for #Palermo star Pastore to #PSG could be announced tomorrow or at the latest Monday.

    Sky Italia: Pastore to officially sign for PSG tomorrow. €30m+€15m on a 5 year €4.5m a year contract.
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    Post by Kuled Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:21 am

    rofl
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:23 am

    Kuled wrote:rofl

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    Post by Walcott Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:24 am

    Jelavic9|RFC wrote:If they pay £45million for Pastore. Neutral

    Why not buy tevez?
    I thought Tevez wanted to move nearer his family. Suspect France is only across the sea from England. Suspect
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    Post by Kuled Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:28 am

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    He is not worth 45M!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing
    He's overrated imo. He's good. but not 45M worth good (rofl)
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    Post by SBSP Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:29 am

    Bloody hell, £45m? Aguero was £39m.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:30 am

    Kuled wrote:
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    Suspect
    He is not worth 45M!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing
    He's overrated imo. He's good. but not 45M worth good (rofl)

    I though you was laughing at me. Sad



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    Post by Kuled Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:32 am

    course not Love
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:05 pm

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7070549,00.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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    Post by Clark Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:17 pm

    No way is he worth 45 Million, I would say 25 at a stretch, they finished around 8th so they are in no position to demand that kind of money, Udinese were with Sanchez, he is good at passing but I've seen better in the Serie A.
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    Post by Kuled Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:18 pm

    As I've already said he's very talented. But that price..to me makes him overrated.
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    Post by Clark Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:20 pm

    Kuled wrote:As I've already said he's very talented. But that price..to me makes him overrated.

    Yeah, definitely talented, but then you see people like Inler move for under 20 Million and it is just wrong, PSG may not even qualify for the EL.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:47 am

    Inler is worth like 15m, so 20m is reasonable.
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    Post by The Bat-Man Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:04 am

    They were unlucky to use today, Tiene was ball watching on a set piece, he was marking probably the smallest player on the pitch and he let him score. PSG huffed and puffed but the goalkeepers was more than up for the challenge, and if he failed a white and pink shirt was always there to clear off the line.

    Was crazy.

    Very exciting game though, very end to end at times and some very good play by Gamiero, Menez and Nene.

    Hoarau was a useless fuck like always, reminds me of Heskey.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:59 pm

    http://www.football.co.uk/ac_milan/_ac_milan_accept_psg_double_bid_for_ibrahimovic_and_thiago_silva_-_report_rss2738512.shtml

    Exciting times
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    Post by Sean Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:35 pm

    Holy shit.
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    Post by Bye_Ya Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:36 pm

    Won't happen.
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    Post by Kuled Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:51 pm

    If they recently had a bid rejected of 50M for Silva himself does that mean they think Ibra is only worth 15M? Won't happen
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    Post by Juventino Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:55 pm

    Ibra should just come back to Juve and fuck nigguhs up.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:40 am

    An interesting look at the bad effects of the take over:

    http://frenchfootballweekly.com/2012/07/13/paris-saint-germain-forget-the-fans-its-all-about-winning/
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    Post by Jordi Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:47 am

    Bye_Ya wrote:Won't happen.
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    Post by Walcott Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:52 am

    Guest wrote:Whoever bought them are fucking clueless, what a waste of money it's going to be. The French league is shit, so they'll never be able to attract the very best players like City are starting to do now
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    Post by Cam Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:55 am

    strong hindsight
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