Im thinking of joining the army

right im thinking of joining the army but im still in the middle about it i mean the only reason for me not signing up right now is the thought of being killed or coming home disabled has any one been or now somone who has been in the army and if so is it worth going

The fact is if you join the Army, depending on your role you will have to deal with the chance of dying. Thats all there is to it

My cousin is in the army. Since he joined he has got married, had two kids, he then went on a 6 month tour and came back to find his missus being rusty corn-holed by another man. He's been injured through shrapnel wounds and was out of work for 8 weeks with no compensation. He lives in a shit house in Andover or in a base in Germany. He never sees his family and friends but he fucking loves it.

lol fuck that.

Mal wrote:My cousin is in the army. Since he joined he has got married, had two kids, he then went on a 6 month tour and came back to find his missus being rusty corn-holed by another man. He's been injured through shrapnel wounds and was out of work for 8 weeks with no compensation. He lives in a shit house in Andover or in a base in Germany. He never sees his family and friends but he fucking loves it.

Sounds like Jarhead

Mal wrote:My cousin is in the army. Since he joined he has got married, had two kids, he then went on a 6 month tour and came back to find his missus being rusty corn-holed by another man. He's been injured through shrapnel wounds and was out of work for 8 weeks with no compensation. He lives in a shit house in Andover or in a base in Germany. He never sees his family and friends but he fucking loves it.

how inspiring

Sean wrote:The fact is if you join the Army, depending on your role you will have to deal with the chance of dying. Thats all there is to it

yeah i surpose i want to be a solider no point doing all the training not to go and fight

Blackpool Rule wrote:

Mal wrote:My cousin is in the army. Since he joined he has got married, had two kids, he then went on a 6 month tour and came back to find his missus being rusty corn-holed by another man. He's been injured through shrapnel wounds and was out of work for 8 weeks with no compensation. He lives in a shit house in Andover or in a base in Germany. He never sees his family and friends but he fucking loves it.

how inspiring

I thought it was. After all that, he still loves it.

The idea of being a soldier is you give your life to the country.

If you are willing to do that and are happy to do that then go ahead.

If you want a wife, kids, marriage and actually enjoy these things then don't bother.

The thing is though, if it was say WWII and there was a proper reason to go to war I could appreciate, but to give up your life to fight for oil and all other corrupted reasons for the current war, well, fuck that,

James wrote:The idea of being a soldier is you give your life to the country.

If you are willing to do that and are happy to do that then go ahead.

If you want a wife, kids, marriage and actually enjoy these things then don't bother.

Right...be cause soldiers never have wives or kids.

Bad idea, not only could you get killed or spasticated, more importantly than that, it's morally wrong. You're not joining up to defend the country, the country will get by fine without you, what you are doing is joining up for the money, and potentially killing people for money.

A load of mindless morons will tell you you're a hero though.

Where did he say he'd be joining up just for the money?

Why else would you join up?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why else would you join up?

Experience. Career development. Discipline. Honest belief that you're helping your country (even if you disagree that's the case, lots of people believe it. And while your and our military are indeed involved in some shit they shouldn't be, they're also doing some good things in some places as well). Anyway, killing isn't the only thing you do in the military. Most people in the military will never kill another human being and most of them will never see combat, even in times like these (although, a male in his late teens/early twenties is the most likely to see combat eventually). Nonetheless, there are lots of skills you can learn in the military.

They all sound like pretty selfish reasons to kill someone, or even risk it.

My brother joined the army and was killed, been bitter about that for a while but through him I've grown up with his army buddies as close friends, after they've served (and while they were in the reserves) they obviously went on to do other things, some were very successful (a friend of his became an engineer) others don't (one killed himself due to PTSD) and some are in the middle, struggling with injuries while trying to live a normal life, or just not as successful. This was in the early 2000s though which is sort of a different time, all I can say is do all the research you can on what joining the British army/navy/airforce would entail for you, consult your family and see what's up. I would suggest not going and finishing school, but to each his own.

dena wrote:My brother joined the army and was killed, been bitter about that for a while but through him I've grown up with his army buddies as close friends, after they've served (and while they were in the reserves) they obviously went on to do other things, some were very successful (a friend of his became an engineer) others don't (one killed himself due to PTSD) and some are in the middle, struggling with injuries while trying to live a normal life, or just not as successful. This was in the early 2000s though which is sort of a different time, all I can say is do all the research you can on what joining the British army/navy/airforce would entail for you, consult your family and see what's up. I would suggest not going and finishing school, but to each his own.

Woah, never knew that man, sorry.

dena wrote:My brother joined the army and was killed, been bitter about that for a while but through him I've grown up with his army buddies as close friends, after they've served (and while they were in the reserves) they obviously went on to do other things, some were very successful (a friend of his became an engineer) others don't (one killed himself due to PTSD) and some are in the middle, struggling with injuries while trying to live a normal life, or just not as successful. This was in the early 2000s though which is sort of a different time, all I can say is do all the research you can on what joining the British army/navy/airforce would entail for you, consult your family and see what's up. I would suggest not going and finishing school, but to each his own.

My condolences bro

ResurrectionRooney wrote:They all sound like pretty selfish reasons to kill someone, or even risk it.

Do you think people shouldn't join the police force either?

menalawyerguy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:They all sound like pretty selfish reasons to kill someone, or even risk it.

Do you think people shouldn't join the police force either?

No, I don't see how that's comparable. The Army could be reduced to 1% of its present size tomorrow and nobody in this country would know the difference apart from having to pay lower taxes.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:They all sound like pretty selfish reasons to kill someone, or even risk it.

Do you think people shouldn't join the police force either?

No, I don't see how that's comparable. The Army could be reduced to 1% of its present size tomorrow and nobody in this country would know the difference apart from having to pay lower taxes.

There's a risk you will have to kill somebody while in the course of one's duties a police officer as well. A much lower risk than the military, but still a risk. I agree with you in principle about the military being too big. Regardless of how big the military is, there is always a chance it will be involved in a war, justified or not.

The police are crucial to our everyday lives whereas the army or not. The police will only shoot someone when they pose an imminent threat, and even then it will only be specialist firearms officers, in my country at least, where we have sensible gun laws.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:The police are crucial to our everyday lives whereas the army or not. The police will only shoot someone when they pose an imminent threat, and even then it will only be specialist firearms officers, in my country at least, where we have sensible gun laws.

And I guess, in the army, those that are targeted are weaponless and possess no reason to harm anybody. Why did nobody tell us the Taliban posed no imminent threat.


Also, no point mate. Army people get paid less than footballers. It's a disgrace apparently.

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:The police are crucial to our everyday lives whereas the army or not. The police will only shoot someone when they pose an imminent threat, and even then it will only be specialist firearms officers, in my country at least, where we have sensible gun laws.

And I guess, in the army, those that are targeted are weaponless and possess no reason to harm anybody. Why did nobody tell us the Taliban posed no imminent threat.


Also, no point mate. Army people get paid less than footballers. It's a disgrace apparently.

The Taliban wouldn't pose a fucking threat if we weren't going into their country!

It's not a disgrace that army people get paid less than footballers, it's perfectly right that that should happen. Not getting into this debate again though.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:The police are crucial to our everyday lives whereas the army or not. The police will only shoot someone when they pose an imminent threat, and even then it will only be specialist firearms officers, in my country at least, where we have sensible gun laws.

And I guess, in the army, those that are targeted are weaponless and possess no reason to harm anybody. Why did nobody tell us the Taliban posed no imminent threat.


Also, no point mate. Army people get paid less than footballers. It's a disgrace apparently.

The Taliban wouldn't pose a fucking threat if we weren't going into their country!

It's not a disgrace that army people get paid less than footballers, it's perfectly right that that should happen. Not getting into this debate again though.

I was being sarcastic. Hence the 'apparently'.

But I guess you are right, the Taliban and Al-Qaeda have only ever done anything bad within the borders of their own country.

dena wrote:My brother joined the army and was killed, been bitter about that for a while but through him I've grown up with his army buddies as close friends, after they've served (and while they were in the reserves) they obviously went on to do other things, some were very successful (a friend of his became an engineer) others don't (one killed himself due to PTSD) and some are in the middle, struggling with injuries while trying to live a normal life, or just not as successful. This was in the early 2000s though which is sort of a different time, all I can say is do all the research you can on what joining the British army/navy/airforce would entail for you, consult your family and see what's up. I would suggest not going and finishing school, but to each his own.

Damn, sorry to hear to that mate. My brother is in the army as well, as infantry. He thinks he's going to Afghan next March, just hoping the same dosen't happen to him.

Sean wrote:The thing is though, if it was say WWII and there was a proper reason to go to war I could appreciate, but to give up your life to fight for oil and all other corrupted reasons for the current war, well, fuck that,

I could've swore that was the war in Iraq, which was completely pointless and troops were risking their lives for oil.

JMB_94 wrote:

dena wrote:My brother joined the army and was killed, been bitter about that for a while but through him I've grown up with his army buddies as close friends, after they've served (and while they were in the reserves) they obviously went on to do other things, some were very successful (a friend of his became an engineer) others don't (one killed himself due to PTSD) and some are in the middle, struggling with injuries while trying to live a normal life, or just not as successful. This was in the early 2000s though which is sort of a different time, all I can say is do all the research you can on what joining the British army/navy/airforce would entail for you, consult your family and see what's up. I would suggest not going and finishing school, but to each his own.

Damn, sorry to hear to that mate. My brother is in the army as well, as infantry. He thinks he's going to Afghan next March, just hoping the same dosen't happen to him.

Yeah hopefully he returns home.

Thanks for the condolences though guys

JMB_94 wrote:

Sean wrote:The thing is though, if it was say WWII and there was a proper reason to go to war I could appreciate, but to give up your life to fight for oil and all other corrupted reasons for the current war, well, fuck that,

I could've swore that was the war in Iraq, which was completely pointless and troops were risking their lives for oil.

You telling me the Afghan war is completely above board?