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    Post by Zzonked Fri May 06, 2011 5:45 am

    I voted yes to AV and Labour.
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    Post by Guest Fri May 06, 2011 5:46 am

    Is this something to do with Carbon footprints and elephants?
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    Post by Zzonked Fri May 06, 2011 5:47 am

    Forest wrote:Is this something to do with Carbon footprints and elephants?

    Electoral reform and local election.
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    Post by Sean Fri May 06, 2011 5:48 am

    Cant, but if I could I would have voted no to AV
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    Post by Zzonked Fri May 06, 2011 5:53 am

    Sean wrote:Cant, but if I could I would have voted no to AV

    How come?

    Before I thought about it I was thinking no, but the more I thought about it the more yes made sense. Plus if you vote no then that's pretty much all electoral reform dead in the water.
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    Post by crump Fri May 06, 2011 6:00 am

    I only catch it on the news, it sounds good. Sounds like some of the lesser able parties that make it in will be able to do it more frequent.

    It's not like how others go: "BNP will become in charge Anyone vote today? 78475 "
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    Post by MickStupp Fri May 06, 2011 6:05 am

    I voted yes to AV and for the SNP up here in Scotland. I don't want independence but they've got the best student policies. I don't think AV is perfect, but it's a step forward.
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    Post by Jord Fri May 06, 2011 6:10 am

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    Post by Sean Fri May 06, 2011 6:12 am

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    Sean wrote:Cant, but if I could I would have voted no to AV

    How come?

    Before I thought about it I was thinking no, but the more I thought about it the more yes made sense. Plus if you vote no then that's pretty much all electoral reform dead in the water.

    Just prefere first past the post, intrestingly enough i see it as more democratic even than any form of PR
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Fri May 06, 2011 6:14 am

    I haven't been yet, might go down in a bit and see if there's no queue. Will be voting no to AV I reckon.
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    Post by Lux Fri May 06, 2011 6:17 am

    Don't know too much about it.

    Apparently Clegg thinks any who oppose it are right wing.

    Hence why I'm against this Neutral Anyone deemed right wing except moronic unprofessional groups like BNP aren't right wing, just less left than the left wing.
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    Post by Zzonked Fri May 06, 2011 6:17 am

    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:I haven't been yet, might go down in a bit and see if there's no queue. Will be voting no to AV I reckon.

    Vote yes!

    Here, watch this video, it will probably sway you. Cool

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    Post by Sean Fri May 06, 2011 6:20 am

    Why labour btw?
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    Post by Zzonked Fri May 06, 2011 6:23 am

    Sean wrote:Why labour btw?

    Just because I would never vote conservative and lib dems are filthy liars. Labour haven't exactly wowed me with any of their policies, but they're always going to be better than conservatives (i.e. I don't want a ton of tuition fees).
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Fri May 06, 2011 6:26 am

    I drive past these billboards on the way back home from work every day though, and they convince me AV is bad!

    They have like a photo of a soldier and say 'he needs bulletproof vests, not a new voting system' and stuff like that.


    But I'll watch the video, open my mind. I hate politics so I don't pay that much attention.Laughing
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    Post by Zzonked Fri May 06, 2011 6:27 am

    Yeah I've seen them ads, thought they were a bit cheesy. I like the one that basically implies you're killing babies if you don't vote no. Laughing
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    Post by Lux Fri May 06, 2011 6:28 am

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    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:I haven't been yet, might go down in a bit and see if there's no queue. Will be voting no to AV I reckon.

    Vote yes!

    Here, watch this video, it will probably sway you. Cool


    I see the logic behind it.....but I can see why the Lib Dems would want it.

    Most are either Labour or Conservative...and don't want the other at all......so they'll vote Lib Dems 2nd as all the other parties are even shitter than the main three...meaning that they'll get all the 2nd votes and elevate them greatly in the polls.

    Simply put though.....I'd rather just not vote, as they're all shit. Who do I want in power? None of them ideally, Conservatives are probably the best though....I'd probably 2nd place UKIP/BNP just because I think if they got high popularity it'd make the big parties wake up and listen to what people actually want.
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    Post by Sean Fri May 06, 2011 6:29 am

    Lux in support for BNP shocker Neutral




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    Post by Zzonked Fri May 06, 2011 6:30 am

    Lux wrote:
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    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:I haven't been yet, might go down in a bit and see if there's no queue. Will be voting no to AV I reckon.

    Vote yes!

    Here, watch this video, it will probably sway you. Cool


    I see the logic behind it.....but I can see why the Lib Dems would want it.

    Most are either Labour or Conservative...and don't want the other at all......so they'll vote Lib Dems 2nd as all the other parties are even shitter than the main three...meaning that they'll get all the 2nd votes and elevate them greatly in the polls.

    Simply put though.....I'd rather just not vote, as they're all shit. Who do I want in power? None of them ideally, Conservatives are probably the best though....I'd probably 2nd place UKIP/BNP just because I think if they got high popularity it'd make the big parties wake up and listen to what people actually want.

    All things aside, I just generally think it's a better voting system, regardless of loyalty to parties etc.. I think the only reason David Cameron is opposing it is because it favors his party, which winds me up. He should do what he thinks is best for the country, not what's best for the tories.
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    Post by Lux Fri May 06, 2011 6:33 am

    Sean wrote:Lux in support for BNP shocker Neutral




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    They're rubbish tbh Laughing

    Zzonked wrote:All things aside, I just generally think it's a better voting system, regardless of loyalty to parties etc.. I think the only reason David Cameron is opposing it is because it favors his party, which winds me up. He should do what he thinks is best for the country, not what's best for the tories.

    True, but you're asking for something almost no party would do.

    90% of politicians put themselves and their party before the public.
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    Post by Sean Fri May 06, 2011 6:34 am

    Exactly Lux, thats the crux of whats wrong in politics today.
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    Post by dena Fri May 06, 2011 6:36 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:I haven't been yet, might go down in a bit and see if there's no queue. Will be voting no to AV I reckon.

    Vote yes!

    Here, watch this video, it will probably sway you. Cool


    THIS IS BRILLIANT rofl
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    Post by MickStupp Fri May 06, 2011 6:41 am

    That vid is brilliant Laughing The dog being the conservative party then.
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    Post by luke. Fri May 06, 2011 6:42 am

    I would have voted for Alliance (NI only)

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    If I could vote obviously Neutral
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    Post by Lux Fri May 06, 2011 6:43 am

    Tbh, they're assuming that the dog voters didn't have a 2nd vote for moderate cat.

    Fuck casual cat Neutral.

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    Post by Sean Fri May 06, 2011 6:45 am

    luke. wrote:I would have voted for Alliance (NI only)

    Cool

    If I could vote obviously Neutral

    Flash Harry! Neutral
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    Post by Zzonked Fri May 06, 2011 6:46 am

    luke. wrote:I would have voted for Alliance (NI only)

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    If I could vote obviously Neutral

    Don't know any NI parties, what are they about?
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    Post by luke. Fri May 06, 2011 6:47 am

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    luke. wrote:I would have voted for Alliance (NI only)

    Cool

    If I could vote obviously Neutral

    Don't know any NI parties, what are they about?

    The assembly and shit shifty
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    Post by MickStupp Fri May 06, 2011 6:49 am

    Lux wrote:
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    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:I haven't been yet, might go down in a bit and see if there's no queue. Will be voting no to AV I reckon.

    Vote yes!

    Here, watch this video, it will probably sway you. Cool


    I see the logic behind it.....but I can see why the Lib Dems would want it.

    Most are either Labour or Conservative...and don't want the other at all......so they'll vote Lib Dems 2nd as all the other parties are even shitter than the main three...meaning that they'll get all the 2nd votes and elevate them greatly in the polls.

    Simply put though.....I'd rather just not vote, as they're all shit. Who do I want in power? None of them ideally, Conservatives are probably the best though....I'd probably 2nd place UKIP/BNP just because I think if they got high popularity it'd make the big parties wake up and listen to what people actually want.
    Wrong. The 2nd votes are only counted if your 1st vote is eliminated. This is why the dog voters didn't have their 2nd vote counted.


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    Post by Guest Fri May 06, 2011 6:49 am

    Got loads of 'No to AV' letters, so I voted yes.


    Doesn't matter anyway, we'll still be voting people in that care more about themselves than the people that actually vote for them, regardless of the voting system.

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