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    Wenger suggests fixture plan

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    Is this a good idea?

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    Post by blackskar Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:14 am

    Thought this would make a good discussion on here:

    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has proposed that the final three rounds of Premier League matches kick off simultaneously.

    All ten fixtures on the final day of the season will take place at the same time so nobody will have the benefit of knowing other results.

    Wenger feels this should be extended, in the interest of fairness, with a number of key issues likely to be decided before the campaign comes to a close on 22nd May.

    "I think they should make each team's last three fixtures all kick off at the same time, not just the last one," Wenger told the Official ArsenalMagazine.

    "There are advantages and disadvantages to kicking off later than the other teams. If you kick off later than your rivals, and they have lost, then you are in a more comfortable situation.

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    "Psychologically it can give you a lift, and it's true that it can apply for us or Manchester United or Chelsea, but I think it would be better not to give any team this advantage.

    "Weekends where you win and your opponents lose become absolutely pivotal now."

    Arsenal are currently five points adrift of leaders Manchester United, but with a game in hand, and will hope to have made up the deficit by the final day of the season.

    The Gunners do not yet know whether they will be playing before or after United on the weekends Wenger is discussing, but if the rivals are in action at the same time he will not lose focus by trying to keep track of what is happening at another ground.

    "No, I wait until afterwards," he added. "If they play before us, then I like to know the result, but if it's the same time, I don't mind not knowing until the end.

    "I tell the players to forget about the other matches as far as possible, and just focus on how they want to play."


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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:20 am

    I vote yes.
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    Post by blackskar Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:21 am

    I should add a poll think
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    Post by Vexxed Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:21 am

    I like the idea, personally. I don't think the fans want to watch their club play anti-football after finding out their rivals lost so a draw is all they need etc...
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    Post by Ben Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:21 am

    I agree with him. Makes it fairer and more exciting.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:24 am

    I vote 'Shut up voyeur.'

    Playing the games at different times generates a lot of cash, and the psychological effects of different kick off times are vastly overstated. There's never been any study which shows a correlation between kicking off later and any advantage or disadvantage, its all just anecdotes and bullshit. The changes in fixtures are just something for managers to use as an excuse or to try and motivate their players.
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    Post by Mal Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:31 am

    All games should kick off at 3pm on a Saturday. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:41 am

    ErectionRooney should be banned, he's a serious troll.
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    Post by dena Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:42 am

    Mal wrote:All games should kick off at 3pm on a Saturday. Neutral

    No.

    Cause then I can't watch 2-3 EPL matches per day. F that.

    I agree with Rooney. Wenger knows that his team bottles under the pressure when they need to win after one of their rivals drop points (see, like two weeks ago) and wants to avoid that. Neutral
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    Post by Mal Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:43 am

    dena wrote:
    Mal wrote:All games should kick off at 3pm on a Saturday. Neutral

    No.

    Cause then I can't watch 2-3 EPL matches per day. F that.

    I agree with Rooney. Wenger knows that his team bottles under the pressure when they need to win after one of their rivals drop points (see, like two weeks ago) and wants to avoid that. Neutral

    But travelling to games that kick off at 5:30 and 12:45 is truly awful. Neutral
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    Post by blackskar Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:44 am

    Here's a question. If I had edited out all mention of Wenger from the article and either left it blank or put in say, SAF, would you say the same thing?

    Should look at the point made and not the person making it.


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    Post by dena Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:44 am

    Get a helicopter, you're making mad paper. :rangeo:
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    Post by Mal Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:45 am

    dena wrote:Get a helicopter, you're making mad paper. :rangeo:

    Laughing

    When have Arsenal played after United recently anyway? Neutral
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    Post by Simonc89 Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:50 am

    All games should be 3pm kick offs for all teams, apart from the occasional Tuesday night for the football league teams due to having more fixtures. Would be much better, especially for those of us who go to the games.
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    Post by Barton Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:58 am

    Would make things a lot more exciting, especially if they had more than 1 game on TV at a time. Wenger suggests fixture plan 688105
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:05 am

    Scott wrote:ErectionRooney should be banned, he's a serious troll.

    I'm not a troll, I'm an honest and uncompromising man who speaks his mind.

    blackskar wrote:Here's a question. If I had edited out all mention of Wenger from the article and either left it blank or put in say, SAF, would you say the same thing?

    Should look at the point made and not the person making it.

    I wouldn't say 'Shut up voyeur' but I'd say the rest. Ferguson's well known for making excuses to try and deflect attention from his club, and using the media, so is TSO. It's true irrespective of who says it. Unless it's some scholar who has done a study on this sort of thing.
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    Post by Barton Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:08 am

    Scott wrote:ErectionRooney should be banned, he's a serious troll.

    Tbf, i don't see how that post makes him a troll, he contriutes to the thread and stays on topic.
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    Post by Zzonked Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:11 am

    I like watching other peoples games on TV so no. bounce
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:13 am

    All games should be 3pm Saturday like it was anyway.
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    Post by Zzonked Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:18 am

    Dan wrote:All games should be 3pm Saturday like it was anyway.

    Will never happen, too much money to be made from weird kick off times.

    I prefer going to 3pm games, but I don't complain too much, I like watching other teams on the weekend.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:22 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Dan wrote:All games should be 3pm Saturday like it was anyway.

    Will never happen, too much money to be made from weird kick off times.

    I prefer going to 3pm games, but I don't complain too much, I like watching other teams on the weekend.

    I know.

    I only watch Liverpool play. I don't have Sky, so I don't watch other games.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:23 am

    I've been thinking about this a bit further, and I've realised this isn't a bad idea from Wenger. It's a fucking terrible one.

    I know this isn't of any concern to Arsene Wenger, but top clubs play in other competitions that the Premier League at this state of the season, competitions such as the UEFA Champions League and the FA Cup. As a result, they often have fixtures in midweek which require more preparation for, and require fixtures to be moved. The only way one could do this would be to have all Premier League games played early in the day, which is pretty unaccommodating to the fans. The alternative is to play all games at 5PM on Saturday or on Sunday afternoon, which will harm the chances of English clubs in Europe - there will be at least one English team in the Semi Finals. Clubs would also be more likely to field weakened teams in this scenario, which damages the integrity of the League.

    Further, either Manchester United or Manchester City will be playing in the FA Cup Final, meaning their second to last game will need to be moved to the subsequent midweek in order to complete the season - does Wenger propose to have the FA Cup Final on a Wednesday night, or to have all fixtures in that round moved to Wednesday night? The current system suits all parties best, there is very little advantage or disadvantage to playing at certain times, it is just an excuse Wenger will use at the end of the season if Arsenal win fuck all again.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:35 am

    On the last matchday every game kicks off at the same time right? That's enough I think.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:51 am

    JMB_94 wrote:
    Scott wrote:ErectionRooney should be banned, he's a serious troll.

    Tbf, i don't see how that post makes him a troll, he contriutes to the thread and stays on topic.

    He chats so much shit he doesn't have the balls to say out loud, that's why he comes on the internet and expresses it
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:09 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    JMB_94 wrote:
    Scott wrote:ErectionRooney should be banned, he's a serious troll.

    Tbf, i don't see how that post makes him a troll, he contriutes to the thread and stays on topic.

    He chats so much shit he doesn't have the balls to say out loud, that's why he comes on the internet and expresses it

    Everything I say on here I say in Real Life when discussing the same issues.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:15 am

    TV money man would not like this

    there is no way it can happen, they will give 3 live games (big teams) yet the viewer can only choose 1 of them, viewers would be split and thasts just stupid business
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    Post by ayvee1 Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:29 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:I vote 'Shut up voyeur.'

    Playing the games at different times generates a lot of cash, and the psychological effects of different kick off times are vastly overstated. There's never been any study which shows a correlation between kicking off later and any advantage or disadvantage, its all just anecdotes and bullshit. The changes in fixtures are just something for managers to use as an excuse or to try and motivate their players.
    Since when did you need a study? Laughing

    If a team knows their title rivals lost earlier in the day and they only need a draw to win the title, they will play differently from if they didn't know.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:49 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    JMB_94 wrote:
    Scott wrote:ErectionRooney should be banned, he's a serious troll.

    Tbf, i don't see how that post makes him a troll, he contriutes to the thread and stays on topic.

    He chats so much shit he doesn't have the balls to say out loud, that's why he comes on the internet and expresses it

    Everything I say on here I say in Real Life when discussing the same issues.

    No you really don't, or maybe you do.. I can't judge how much of a loser outside of this forum. If you act the same way I'd assume a pretty big one
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    Post by Cornholio Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:50 am

    It works both ways.

    If a rival loses, then yes you could be comfortable, but you could also get complacent and think "they've fucked up, we've got this in the bag now."

    So, basically, shut up Voyeur.
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    Post by Dean Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:05 am

    It's alright the way it is. Doing what Wenger suggested would clash with fixtures.

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