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    Post by Danny Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:50 am

    Sean wrote:If you go to do work experience at Coleraine, make sure none of their players owns any kind of firearm

    Geddit?
    Well that went down well...
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:52 am

    Can you do coaching badges without GSCE/A level/Btech PE.
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:53 am

    EdinsonCavani wrote:
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    EdinsonCavani wrote:I do BTEC level 3 sport and its best thing education wise that has happened to me.

    That is the exact same course i am considering applying for. Why though do you consider it as the best thing, education wise, that has ever happened to you?
    Its much more interesting and its easy to take in the way the course is split up into units, its easy to work with people, 2 - 3 days a week you have to go in, a lot of the assignments are verbal so it prepares you more for your future job. You wont realise how interesting it is until you go on the course, you learn how to train people alot of time is spent in the gym as there is a lot of testing you have to do such as Body fat testing, 1 rep max, blood pressure. I actually enjoy waking up and going in the banter is jokes i could go on lol.. 100% coursework
    Im on course for a distinction Very Happy

    I was informed at my local College's open day that it would be a mixture of practical and theory work. I think i would enjoy both sides of it as much as each other, but like you said, i won't know what it's really like until i am actually taking the course, if i decide too.

    I may not like some of the people who may also take the course, but if needs must i would enrol at another college which is slightly further away, if i could arrange a way to travel there. I would be willing to do that, as i want to enjoy the course after all, and i will more so if i like the people in the course. Smile
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    Mr. Hassard wrote:I'm not too worried about the intelligence of the other students, although some people i know but don't really like could also be taking the same BTEC course, but that's another problem altogether.

    You can do a Sports Diploma alongside two other A-levels, which is another option i will consider. But I'll have to look into what that Diploma can lead onto.

    Thought I saw that you wanted to go Uni, and my point was that the reputation of the course doesn't do you any favours. Does it even work out as equivalent to 3 A Levels? I'd definitely do the two A Levels as they're always good to have......and might make it easier to get the job you want/ give you a broader variety of jobs e.g. sports science, physio etc.

    Oh, well if eventually going to University would improve my chances of pursuing my dream, then i would defiantly consider it. And if i do the course full-time, it would work out to be the equivalent of three A-levels. So i wouldn't be able to do any other courses alongside it.
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:54 am

    LFCJordan wrote:Can you do coaching badges without GSCE/A level/Btech PE.

    I am actually not sure about that, but i presume that those courses you have listed above would prepare you for coaching, like others on here have already said.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:55 am

    Mr. Hassard wrote:
    EdinsonCavani wrote:
    Mr. Hassard wrote:
    EdinsonCavani wrote:I do BTEC level 3 sport and its best thing education wise that has happened to me.

    That is the exact same course i am considering applying for. Why though do you consider it as the best thing, education wise, that has ever happened to you?
    Its much more interesting and its easy to take in the way the course is split up into units, its easy to work with people, 2 - 3 days a week you have to go in, a lot of the assignments are verbal so it prepares you more for your future job. You wont realise how interesting it is until you go on the course, you learn how to train people alot of time is spent in the gym as there is a lot of testing you have to do such as Body fat testing, 1 rep max, blood pressure. I actually enjoy waking up and going in the banter is jokes i could go on lol.. 100% coursework
    Im on course for a distinction Very Happy

    I was informed at my local College's open day that it would be a mixture of practical and theory work. I think i would enjoy both sides of it as much as each other, but like you said, i won't know what it's really like until i am actually taking the course, if i decide too.

    I may not like some of the people who may also take the course, but if needs must i would enrol at another college which is slightly further away, if i could arrange a way to travel there. I would be willing to do that, as i want to enjoy the course after all, and i will more so if i like the people in the course. Smile
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    Mr. Hassard wrote:I'm not too worried about the intelligence of the other students, although some people i know but don't really like could also be taking the same BTEC course, but that's another problem altogether.

    You can do a Sports Diploma alongside two other A-levels, which is another option i will consider. But I'll have to look into what that Diploma can lead onto.

    Thought I saw that you wanted to go Uni, and my point was that the reputation of the course doesn't do you any favours. Does it even work out as equivalent to 3 A Levels? I'd definitely do the two A Levels as they're always good to have......and might make it easier to get the job you want/ give you a broader variety of jobs e.g. sports science, physio etc.

    Oh, well if eventually going to University would improve my chances of pursuing my dream, then i would defiantly consider it. And if i do the course full-time, it would work out to be the equivalent of three A-levels. So i wouldn't be able to do any other courses alongside it.
    You should find that everyone is much more mature and takes work more seriously in college no one really fucks about
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    Post by Lux Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:56 am

    Mr. Hassard wrote:Oh, well if eventually going to University would improve my chances of pursuing my dream, then i would defiantly consider it. And if i do the course full-time, it would work out to be the equivalent of three A-levels. So i wouldn't be able to do any other courses alongside it.

    Do you do any actual football alongside this course?

    Like at my local college you play for the local team's youth side 1/2/3 (or I guess the first team if you're good enough) which is in the 7th tier pig

    But yeah, I would've thought if you're going to be doing coaching you'd want to be playing football to broaden your skills.

    EdinsonCavani wrote:You should find that everyone is much more mature and takes work more seriously in college no one really fucks about

    Confused Maybe my brother just exaggerates, but apparently everyone fucks around. At A Level it was mostly fine...
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:00 am

    EdinsonCavani wrote:You should find that everyone is much more mature and takes work more seriously in college no one really fucks about

    Is that so? Do you think that is down to the fact that they actually want to do the course, whereas in school they were forced to do subjects they didn't really want too?

    Also, were there people from your school who have taken the course, who are a lot more mature now than they were in school? In fact, did you not even like them in school but do now?
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:05 am

    Mr. Hassard wrote:
    EdinsonCavani wrote:You should find that everyone is much more mature and takes work more seriously in college no one really fucks about

    Is that so? Do you think that is down to the fact that they actually want to do the course, whereas in school they were forced to do subjects they didn't really want too?

    Also, were there people from your school who have taken the course, who are a lot more mature now than they were in school? In fact, did you not even like them in school but do now?
    Yeah everyone come to the course out of choice.
    Theres no one in my class from my old school but there are people around the college i used to abuse Laughing and im fine with them now talk to them every now and then
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:07 am

    Luxz0rz wrote:
    Mr. Hassard wrote:Oh, well if eventually going to University would improve my chances of pursuing my dream, then i would defiantly consider it. And if i do the course full-time, it would work out to be the equivalent of three A-levels. So i wouldn't be able to do any other courses alongside it.

    Do you do any actual football alongside this course?

    Like at my local college you play for the local team's youth side 1/2/3 (or I guess the first team if you're good enough) which is in the 7th tier pig

    But yeah, I would've thought if you're going to be doing coaching you'd want to be playing football to broaden your skills.

    I am not sure about that. Although it would be useful as i would learn a lot from the experience, even how training sessions usually operate and how they benefit the team. I don't think it's necessary though. Here are the mandatory units in the course if you're interested...

    • Fitness Testing for Sport and Exercise
    • The Physiology of Fitness Sports Coaching
    • Sports Development
    • Assessing Risk in Sport Fitness Training and Programming Principles of Anatomy
    • Physiology in Sport Practical Team Sports or Practical Individual Sports
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:09 am

    EdinsonCavani wrote:
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    EdinsonCavani wrote:You should find that everyone is much more mature and takes work more seriously in college no one really fucks about

    Is that so? Do you think that is down to the fact that they actually want to do the course, whereas in school they were forced to do subjects they didn't really want too?

    Also, were there people from your school who have taken the course, who are a lot more mature now than they were in school? In fact, did you not even like them in school but do now?
    Yeah everyone come to the course out of choice.
    Theres no one in my class from my old school but there are people around the college i used to abuse Laughing and im fine with them now talk to them every now and then

    Ah well that sounds fair enough, maybe the same will happen when those people i don't like attend the college. I could try it out for a while, and if they haven't become more 'likeable', then i'm sure i could get transferred to the next nearest college.
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    Post by Sean Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:23 am

    Danny wrote:
    Sean wrote:If you go to do work experience at Coleraine, make sure none of their players owns any kind of firearm

    Geddit?
    Well that went down well...

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    Post by Danny Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:26 am

    Sean wrote:
    Danny wrote:
    Sean wrote:If you go to do work experience at Coleraine, make sure none of their players owns any kind of firearm

    Geddit?
    Well that went down well...

    Shutup Neutral
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    Post by Dean Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:36 am

    Interesting subject, no more than 3 weeks ago, I was on my level 3 BTEC Sports Diploma course year 1. It's a fantastic subject, challenging, but very good. So you want to go into Sports/football Coaching? Same as me. But when you do the BTEC course, you'll cover all different varieties of stuff and you might end up liking something else, you'll do Principles of Anatomoy & Physiology, Sports Psychology, Fitness Training, Fitness Testing, Performance Analysis (That's great), Practical Sport, Sports Nutrition and a few others.

    I really don't want to go into my story really, been a really stressful few months for me, but I've ended up quitting the course. And the sad thing as well, I had it all there for me, I played for Everton when I was younger so I had a lot of contacts there helping me out, I know a few of the coaches there. I was the coach of a u10's team and I was also taking my coaching badges and I was also doing volunteer work for the Football Coaching and Development officer of Liverpool. So I basically had it all there for me. But certain things happened etc... don't really wanna go into it.

    Seems a bit odd though that you want to go into football and you've never actually played football, I've always played football and grew up with it being a big part of my life etc have you played football before? To teach the game, you've really got to have played it to fully understand it... but hey I'm not knocking you, fair play to you for giving it a go if you are, I respect you for that, just give it your best. End of the day mate, you'll only get what you put in, you put the effort and dedication in and you'll reap the rewards.

    I'd also like to add, if you want to do the Sports Coaching course at Uni, you'll have to have work behind you to get on the course, and by that I mean, taking your coaching badges (not all of them of course), voluntree work (i.e. taking training sessions, coaching kids etc...)

    To do a course like that, grades alone from your level 3 course will not guarantee you a place, you need the experience and voluntree work behind you. I know this because I spoke to one of the top heads at Liverpool John Moores Uni. John Moores Uni is one of the best if not the best Sports Uni in the UK.

    Good luck. Hope this helped.

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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:24 am

    Go for it Hassard.

    If it's something you really want to do, then there really isn't much point in you wasting 2 years doing A-Levels, because at the end of the 2 years you might decide that there isn't really any Uni course that interests you, and that you should of done the coaching.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:29 am

    Lee Camp Is A Fat Wanker wrote:Go for it Hassard.

    If it's something you really want to do, then there really isn't much point in you wasting 2 years doing A-Levels, because at the end of the 2 years you might decide that there isn't really any Uni course that interests you, and that you should of done the coaching.
    Sounds familiar, that...
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:35 am

    Lee Camp Is A Fat Wanker wrote:Go for it Hassard.

    If it's something you really want to do, then there really isn't much point in you wasting 2 years doing A-Levels, because at the end of the 2 years you might decide that there isn't really any Uni course that interests you, and that you should of done the coaching.
    Sounds familiar, that...
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    Post by ShakerMatty Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:46 am

    good luck my mate has took a course in rugby league at another college bit of a random course but if he enjoys it i guess its better to do something u enjoy
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    Post by Kuled Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:48 am

    Be sure to give us a mention on how we gave you the courage to be a coach when you're in your first press conference of Barcelona ok? shifty
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:30 am

    Dean wrote:Interesting subject, no more than 3 weeks ago, I was on my level 3 BTEC Sports Diploma course year 1. It's a fantastic subject, challenging, but very good. So you want to go into Sports/football Coaching? Same as me. But when you do the BTEC course, you'll cover all different varieties of stuff and you might end up liking something else, you'll do Principles of Anatomoy & Physiology, Sports Psychology, Fitness Training, Fitness Testing, Performance Analysis (That's great), Practical Sport, Sports Nutrition and a few others.

    I really don't want to go into my story really, been a really stressful few months for me, but I've ended up quitting the course. And the sad thing as well, I had it all there for me, I played for Everton when I was younger so I had a lot of contacts there helping me out, I know a few of the coaches there. I was the coach of a u10's team and I was also taking my coaching badges and I was also doing volunteer work for the Football Coaching and Development officer of Liverpool. So I basically had it all there for me. But certain things happened etc... don't really wanna go into it.

    Seems a bit odd though that you want to go into football and you've never actually played football, I've always played football and grew up with it being a big part of my life etc have you played football before? To teach the game, you've really got to have played it to fully understand it... but hey I'm not knocking you, fair play to you for giving it a go if you are, I respect you for that, just give it your best. End of the day mate, you'll only get what you put in, you put the effort and dedication in and you'll reap the rewards.

    I'd also like to add, if you want to do the Sports Coaching course at Uni, you'll have to have work behind you to get on the course, and by that I mean, taking your coaching badges (not all of them of course), voluntree work (i.e. taking training sessions, coaching kids etc...)

    To do a course like that, grades alone from your level 3 course will not guarantee you a place, you need the experience and voluntree work behind you. I know this because I spoke to one of the top heads at Liverpool John Moores Uni. John Moores Uni is one of the best if not the best Sports Uni in the UK.

    Good luck. Hope this helped.


    I have looked into the BTEC course available to me at my local college, so i already have a good idea of what it covers, which is pretty much the same as you have just said. Football coaching is what i aspire to do, and i have been doing a lot of research into it. Interestingly i am already the right age to take part in my national FA's level 1 coaching award, which takes place in June.

    I understand mate if it don't want to discuss your personal life on a forum to a stranger, completely understand.

    I do lie when i say i have never played football before. I was for a short time a member of a local youth team a few years ago, but i have long since left it. Since then i was recently player/manager of a seven-a-side team with few of my friends, and also regularly play football in PE. Not GCSE PE mind you, just the mandatory physical education each school requires pupil to do.

    I could also get my friends Dad, who is a coach at a local team, to see if he could could arrange anything to help me. Be it coaching a youth team, to even just helping me carry drinks and lay out cones. I wouldn't mind really, as lomg as i gain experience from it.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:43 am

    Why are you aiming for BTEC btw? I'm doing A level PE and that's just as good if not better, it's only an extra subject to BTEC.

    Gonna drop it because I think it's full of shit and not relevant but hey it qualifies you on paper
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:50 am

    Fonseca wrote:Why are you aiming for BTEC btw? I'm doing A level PE and that's just as good if not better, it's only an extra subject to BTEC.

    Gonna drop it because I think it's full of shit and not relevant but hey it qualifies you on paper

    I am aiming for a BTEC as I didn't do GCSE P.E., although I have since been informed that you can do A-level PE with having done it at GCSE. But whether or not my school does it, and if i would be accepted is another thing altogether.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:51 am

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    Lee Camp Is A Fat Wanker wrote:Go for it Hassard.

    If it's something you really want to do, then there really isn't much point in you wasting 2 years doing A-Levels, because at the end of the 2 years you might decide that there isn't really any Uni course that interests you, and that you should of done the coaching.
    Sounds familiar, that...

    Laughing I was just thinking the same thing.
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    Post by Coatsy Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:55 am

    I though about something like this after my GCSE's although decided to go and do my A levels since I really didn't know how i'd get into coaching at a high level without a playing career behind me.
    All I can say though,is if you really feel its for you I guess you'd just have to ask around and then go for it Very Happy
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:56 am

    Forest wrote:Go for it Hassard.

    If it's something you really want to do, then there really isn't much point in you wasting 2 years doing A-Levels, because at the end of the 2 years you might decide that there isn't really any Uni course that interests you, and that you should of done the coaching.

    That's what i was thinking. Although there are subjects at school which interest me, i don't know if i want want to pursue a career in any of them.
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:44 am

    I have done some more research and found out through the IFA (Irish Football Association), there is a Level 1 Coaching Award (first coaching badge available) taking place sometime in June. You have to be over the age of 16, which I am, to take part in the three-day course. And if i successfully complete the course, i will be rewarded with my Level 1 coaching badge. I have informed by parents about this, and my dad is very supportive. My mum is more sceptical about it. Although the course is £300, i think it would be worth it as it would be an excellent thing to have.

    Should i apply to do this coaching award, or wait until I do my BTEC (if i decide to do it) to see if coaching is something i really want to do?
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    Mr. Hassard wrote:I have done some more research and found out through the IFA (Irish Football Association), there is a Level 1 Coaching Award (first coaching badge available) taking place sometime in June. You have to be over the age of 16, which I am, to take part in the three-day course. And if i successfully complete the course, i will be rewarded with my Level 1 coaching badge. I have informed by parents about this, and my dad is very supportive. My mum is more sceptical about it. Although the course is £300, i think it would be worth it as it would be an excellent thing to have.

    Should i apply to do this coaching award, or wait until I do my BTEC (if i decide to do it) to see if coaching is something i really want to do?

    If I was you, I'd do the course first. It would allow you to know if you want to do this and also will probably give you more experience before you do the badges. It'd be a shame to spend £300 and you realise you don't want to do it.
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    Dan wrote:
    Mr. Hassard wrote:I have done some more research and found out through the IFA (Irish Football Association), there is a Level 1 Coaching Award (first coaching badge available) taking place sometime in June. You have to be over the age of 16, which I am, to take part in the three-day course. And if i successfully complete the course, i will be rewarded with my Level 1 coaching badge. I have informed by parents about this, and my dad is very supportive. My mum is more sceptical about it. Although the course is £300, i think it would be worth it as it would be an excellent thing to have.

    Should i apply to do this coaching award, or wait until I do my BTEC (if i decide to do it) to see if coaching is something i really want to do?

    If I was you, I'd do the course first. It would allow you to know if you want to do this and also will probably give you more experience before you do the badges. It'd be a shame to spend £300 and you realise you don't want to do it.

    You could be right. I read on the information booklet that you have to fill out a log sheet with at least 6 hours of previous coaching experience, which i probably could get during the course as i was reading in the College prospectus that students get to go out on Work Experience. And if i try hard enough i could find somewhere to get involved with coaching for that Work Experience.
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:55 am

    I just thought I'd inform everyone that I have just posted away my application form to do the IFA Grassroots Introductory Coaching Award, on Thursday 24th June. It is the coaching award below the Level 1 course, but I have done research into this and even e-mailed the IFA, who said the following;

    You don’t need any experience to do the Grassroots Intro course, just an interest in football! This is our most basic course, just 3 hours, but will cover the basics both in theory and practice, and is aimed at those who wish to help out with coaching young kids up to the age of 9. It would give you an idea whether you want to progress onto higher coaching awards.

    This convinced me that is was the right course to pick. It is also, at £40, a lot cheaper than the Level 1 course (which is £300). I talked about it with my parents and they agreed with it, and I also offered to pay for the course.

    I still don't know whether or not I will stay on at school and do A-levels, or go and do the BTEC in Sport. But the school that I am currently at is having an open night next week for prospective year 13 students, so attending that may help me make up my mind.

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