In Ibra's own words. He is the best.

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Zlatan – “Well…I don’t know…you’ll have to ask your wife about that”

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Kuled wrote:You probably don't know who Cavani is Also I've never seen you in the Serie A thread. Or are you one of those guys who just watches the big games like Milan x Inter or Juve x Inter and think you know everything about the serie A? I bet you don't even know where Napoli are in the serie A

Don't start the 'I'm a better football fan than you because I watch the Messina v Empoli match and nobody else does' argument.

Please.

Jordi wrote:

Kuled wrote:You probably don't know who Cavani is Also I've never seen you in the Serie A thread. Or are you one of those guys who just watches the big games like Milan x Inter or Juve x Inter and think you know everything about the serie A? I bet you don't even know where Napoli are in the serie A

Don't start the 'I'm a better football fan than you because I watch the Messina v Empoli match and nobody else does'

Please.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Bogdan wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:
that takes someone special. But he's still overrated. Would have been interesting to see how he'd fare in the BPL.

Oh great this again. You can be a great player even if you don't play in the EPL. Is Messi not good because he hasn't played in England? No.

Anyways, Ibra would just show how beast he is, holding off defenders and such.

I just said it would be interesting, not saying unless he plays in England he's shit.
He failed at spain, with the best midfield supplying him. So doesn't that suggest he might not be as good in a different enviroment?

Didn't fail in Spain either. He wasn't used properly.

Kuled wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

Kuled wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

Santa Cruz wrote:
For once i agree with Kuled

No, Just no.

Do you even watch the Serie A?

Yes.

Ibra has one of the best techniques I have ever seen.

You probably don't know who Cavani is Also I've never seen you in the Serie A thread. Or are you one of those guys who just watches the big games like Milan x Inter or Juve x Inter and think you know everything about the serie A? I bet you don't even know where Napoli are in the serie A

One of the most stupid things Ive seen you post TBH. Apparently you must not know anything about Serie A because you have not posted in the Serie A thread . Well well

Bogdan wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Bogdan wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:
that takes someone special. But he's still overrated. Would have been interesting to see how he'd fare in the BPL.

Oh great this again. You can be a great player even if you don't play in the EPL. Is Messi not good because he hasn't played in England? No.

Anyways, Ibra would just show how beast he is, holding off defenders and such.

I just said it would be interesting, not saying unless he plays in England he's shit.
He failed at spain, with the best midfield supplying him. So doesn't that suggest he might not be as good in a different enviroment?

Didn't fail in Spain either. He wasn't used properly.

That shouldn't have mattered if he was such a great player. It's call adapting, Ronaldo did that well enough.

Here's a good article I found concerning Ibra's time at Barcelona.

http://accuscore.com/the-blame-game-pep-or-ibra

Kuled wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

Kuled wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

Santa Cruz wrote:
For once i agree with Kuled

No, Just no.

Do you even watch the Serie A?

Yes.

Ibra has one of the best techniques I have ever seen.

You probably don't know who Cavani is Also I've never seen you in the Serie A thread. Or are you one of those guys who just watches the big games like Milan x Inter or Juve x Inter and think you know everything about the serie A? I bet you don't even know where Napoli are in the serie A

Why do you think I always post Cavani + Lavezzi + Hamsik =

North_Sea_Tiger wrote:

Kuled wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

Kuled wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

No, Just no.

Do you even watch the Serie A?

Yes.

Ibra has one of the best techniques I have ever seen.

You probably don't know who Cavani is Also I've never seen you in the Serie A thread. Or are you one of those guys who just watches the big games like Milan x Inter or Juve x Inter and think you know everything about the serie A? I bet you don't even know where Napoli are in the serie A

One of the most stupid things Ive seen you post TBH. Apparently you must not know anything about Serie A because you have not posted in the Serie A thread . Well well

no no no no. What I meant to say is that he's probably lying when he said that he watches the games. If I just watched a game i'd want to discuss it (which he always does on matchdays including liverpool etc.) but you never see him mentioning or discussing the serie A league eve

Kuled wrote:no no no no. What I meant to say is that he's probably lying when he said that he watches the games. If I just watched a game i'd want to discuss it (which he always does on matchdays including liverpool etc.) but you never see him mentioning or discussing the serie A league eve

He doesn't have to discuss it on the internet if he doesn't want to.

Overrated imo. Hasn't cut it anywhere else but Serie A. Didn't quite fit in at Barcelona, he's never really performed in the Champions League for me, record against English teams is piss poor...

Dont think Ibra was a failure at Barca. He scored goals but he just didnt fit into their style ot because he cant play in that league but because of the way Barca play. Ibra obviously isnt going to run around harassing defenders for 90 mins like Messi & Pedro so he just looked out of place. He would be a success in Spain no doubt. I actually think he would be immense at Madrid and wouldnt be surprised to see him there in the summer if they decide that Benzema isnt a good enough starter to interchange with Higuain

North_Sea_Tiger wrote:Dont think Ibra was a failure at Barca. He scored goals but he just didnt fit into their style ot because he cant play in that league but because of the way Barca play. Ibra obviously isnt going to run around harassing defenders for 90 mins like Messi & Pedro so he just looked out of place. He would be a success in Spain no doubt. I actually think he would be immense at Madrid and wouldnt be surprised to see him there in the summer if they decide that Benzema isnt a good enough starter to interchange with Higuain

If someone at Madrid doesn't think Benzema is a good enough striker to interchange with Higuain they've got problems.

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

Kuled wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

Kuled wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:

No, Just no.

Do you even watch the Serie A?

Yes.

Ibra has one of the best techniques I have ever seen.

You probably don't know who Cavani is Also I've never seen you in the Serie A thread. Or are you one of those guys who just watches the big games like Milan x Inter or Juve x Inter and think you know everything about the serie A? I bet you don't even know where Napoli are in the serie A

Why do you think I always post Cavani + Lavezzi + Hamsik =

Because you played with them on FIFA...

Bogdan wrote:Here's a good article I found concerning Ibra's time at Barcelona.

http://accuscore.com/the-blame-game-pep-or-ibra

Good read that.

Danny wrote:Overrated imo. Hasn't cut it anywhere else but Serie A. Didn't quite fit in at Barcelona, he's never really performed in the Champions League for me, record against English teams is piss poor...

Apart from 'that match' against Arsenal, Messi's record against English teams is also rather underwhelming.

Danny wrote:

North_Sea_Tiger wrote:Dont think Ibra was a failure at Barca. He scored goals but he just didnt fit into their style ot because he cant play in that league but because of the way Barca play. Ibra obviously isnt going to run around harassing defenders for 90 mins like Messi & Pedro so he just looked out of place. He would be a success in Spain no doubt. I actually think he would be immense at Madrid and wouldnt be surprised to see him there in the summer if they decide that Benzema isnt a good enough starter to interchange with Higuain

If someone at Madrid doesn't think Benzema is a good enough striker to interchange with Higuain they've got problems.

Not really because Benzema is so wasteful. The amount of chances that Madrid make in a game Benzema should be scoring a lot more but he is too wasteful

42 games, 22 goals, 9 assists.



And that's a failure?.

Dan wrote:42 games, 22 goals, 9 assists.



And that's a failure?.

compared to Messi anyone's a failure.

Also there was his price-tag, and predecessor.

More than 0.5 goals per game is the benchmark for a good striker IMO, and Ibra hit that at Barca. Barca just needed someone to blame for their defeat to Inter, and the new boy was the scapegoat.

Since when were England teams the benchmark of judging football ability, because they dont have a good record against English teams they're shit?

Bullshit

ayvee1 wrote:More than 0.5 goals per game is the benchmark for a good striker IMO, and Ibra hit that at Barca. Barca just needed someone to blame for their defeat to Inter, and the new boy was the scapegoat.

This.

He's still not the best though, not even in the top 10. maybe in the top 15.

Name 10 better?

Sean wrote:Name 10 better?

Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba, Gerrard, Puyol(give defenders credit), Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney, Sneijder, Eto'o, Heskey.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Sean wrote:Name 10 better?

Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba, Gerrard, Puyol(give defenders credit), Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney, Sneijder, Eto'o, Heskey.

He was talking about 10 better strikers

North_Sea_Tiger wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Sean wrote:Name 10 better?

Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba, Gerrard, Puyol(give defenders credit), Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney, Sneijder, Eto'o, Heskey.

He was talking about 10 better strikers

Ibra was talking about being the best in general, so I assumed that way.
But, Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba, Eto'o, Cavani, Villa, Fabiano, Higuain, Rooney, Heskey.

Fabiano?

Fine Shagger wrote:Fabiano?

my opinion, he's a beast.

Was a beast, pretty average these days though.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

North_Sea_Tiger wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Sean wrote:Name 10 better?

Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba, Gerrard, Puyol(give defenders credit), Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney, Sneijder, Eto'o, Heskey.

He was talking about 10 better strikers

Ibra was talking about being the best in general, so I assumed that way.
But, Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba, Eto'o, Cavani, Villa, Fabiano, Higuain, Rooney, Heskey.

No to the ones striked out. Questionable with the ones underlined.