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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:50 am

    Messi on Masch:

    "Liverpool must act humanely and let him go."

    Xavi on Cesc:

    "We've given up on the idea of him arriving
    now, but maybe he'll come in January when Arsenal are out of the Premier
    League title race," he said, according to Tuttomercato.

    "Their team are just not competitive."

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    Maybe you're right, Jamie.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:54 am

    Also Xavi openly commented on Cesc without any relation saying "Cesc is only on loan at Arsenal, he'll come in January when Arsenal are out of the Premier League title race"

    I don't have a problem with players being asked a question and answering it, they can babble on about how much they like because that makes good stories but Xavi said shit completely out of the blue. Just realised your's a miss translated quote, he still commented on how he was on loan though.

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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:55 am

    Messi on Cesc:

    "I am certain he wants to come to Barcelona because he has realised this is the only club where he can win."



    It's fucking insulting.

    How I can be called bitter for noticing this is ridiculous.

    They're the biggest cunts in football, but I expect that from La Liga fan boys.
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    Post by Grenade Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:13 am

    You would never expect such high profile players like Messi and Xavi to say shit like that. I used to think Messi was a good, mature person Sad.
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    Post by Jamie Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:24 am

    Haters in the building...
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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:24 am

    Fan boys in the building ....
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    Post by Jamie Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:07 am

    True.
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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:11 am

    No shit now Jamie. Are you honestly defending those comments, or are you on a wind up?

    Surely even a barca-bummer can see they're out of order.

    If it was any other club I doubt you'd be like this. In fact if it was any other club I think FIFA would step in, it's blatant tapping up.
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    Post by Jamie Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:15 am

    Neither. I don't agree with the comments but don't see why they can't speak their mind.

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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:25 am

    Because you shouldn't comment on players under contract at a different club.

    Pretty sure I've seen comment on Harry Redknapp's classic "I don't want to talk about another club's player, but he's triffic and we'd love to have him" line.

    This is no different. In fact it's worse, they've said that Fabregas can not win at Arsenal.

    Grade A cunts.
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    Post by dena Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:28 am

    I know tapping up/commenting on other players is wrong, but it's so rife in the game that I don't see any need to get up and at it everytime someone does it, UEFA knows what's going on, if they want to stop it, they stop it. Are Barcelona cunts, sure, but everyone does it. And I'm not saying that makes it right, just wouldn't want to wast time wagging my finger every time another team does it.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:29 am

    Agree with Ryan here.
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    Post by Jamie Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:30 am

    Cornholio wrote:Because you shouldn't comment on players under contract at a different club.

    Pretty sure I've seen comment on Harry Redknapp's classic "I don't want to talk about another club's player, but he's triffic and we'd love to have him" line.

    This is no different. In fact it's worse, they've said that Fabregas can not win at Arsenal.

    Grade A cunts.

    I disagree, I think a manager saying it is different than a player.
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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:32 am

    dena wrote:I know tapping up/commenting on other players is wrong, but it's so rife in the game that I don't see any need to get up and at it everytime someone does it, UEFA knows what's going on, if they want to stop it, they stop it. Are Barcelona cunts, sure, but everyone does it. And I'm not saying that makes it right, just wouldn't want to wast time wagging my finger every time another team does it.

    Oh yeah I know you'll find these comments at every club. But I can't help but notice the amount of times Barca do it. It comes from like three of their players every window.

    That's all I think they're cunts for, nothing else. Same as I think Redknapp is a cunt for the quote I posted in my above post.
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    Post by Fanatic Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:33 am

    dena wrote:I know tapping up/commenting on other players is wrong, but it's so rife in the game that I don't see any need to get up and at it everytime someone does it, UEFA knows what's going on, if they want to stop it, they stop it. Are Barcelona cunts, sure, but everyone does it. And I'm not saying that makes it right, just wouldn't want to wast time wagging my finger every time another team does it.
    Does everyone do it though? Look at ancelotti ana Dalglish during the Torres and Suarez transfer , not a peep from both.
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    Post by dena Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:38 am

    Fanatic wrote:
    dena wrote:I know tapping up/commenting on other players is wrong, but it's so rife in the game that I don't see any need to get up and at it everytime someone does it, UEFA knows what's going on, if they want to stop it, they stop it. Are Barcelona cunts, sure, but everyone does it. And I'm not saying that makes it right, just wouldn't want to wast time wagging my finger every time another team does it.
    Does everyone do it though? Look at ancelotti ana Dalglish during the Torres and Suarez transfer , not a peep from both.

    Two transfers out of hundreds made in the window, obviously "everyone" was hyperbole.
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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:52 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    Cornholio wrote:Because you shouldn't comment on players under contract at a different club.

    Pretty sure I've seen comment on Harry Redknapp's classic "I don't want to talk about another club's player, but he's triffic and we'd love to have him" line.

    This is no different. In fact it's worse, they've said that Fabregas can not win at Arsenal.

    Grade A cunts.

    I disagree, I think a manager saying it is different than a player.

    In the eyes of FIFA, yes. It's obvious the players are being told to say this though, otherwise the manager would be saying that the players don't pick the team and shouldn't be identifying transfer targets for the club.

    It is the same. You're just being bias again.
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    Post by Jamie Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:54 am

    I can't imagine Pep instructing players to "tap up" targets tbh. Although the possibility of Rossell, Cruyff etc doing so is possible I guess.
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    Post by Fanatic Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:57 am

    dena wrote:
    Fanatic wrote:
    dena wrote:I know tapping up/commenting on other players is wrong, but it's so rife in the game that I don't see any need to get up and at it everytime someone does it, UEFA knows what's going on, if they want to stop it, they stop it. Are Barcelona cunts, sure, but everyone does it. And I'm not saying that makes it right, just wouldn't want to wast time wagging my finger every time another team does it.
    Does everyone do it though? Look at ancelotti ana Dalglish during the Torres and Suarez transfer , not a peep from both.

    Two transfers out of hundreds made in the window, obviously "everyone" was hyperbole.
    I know everyone was an exageration but if 2 big clubs can conduct themselves apprpriately (especially chelsea of all teams) why can't Barca?
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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:58 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:I can't imagine Pep instructing players to "tap up" targets tbh. Although the possibility of Rossell, Cruyff etc doing so is possible I guess.

    Manager/President, it's all the same. And I can 99% guarentee there is someone telling them to say it for the reason above.

    If I was a manager and one of players started saying "Player A" should join I'd be calling them into my office and saying "Who the fuck do you think you are picking players for my team".

    Just because a loop hole is being used doesn't change the fact it's morally wrong.
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    Post by Jamie Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:04 am

    I haven't actually defended the comments though...just said that the majority of them were fabricated, which is true. I don't deny that they shouldn't be commenting on other players but you make it sound like they are the only team to do so.

    Not remember Gerrard "tapping up" Barry?
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    Post by dena Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:25 am

    Fanatic wrote:
    dena wrote:
    Fanatic wrote:
    dena wrote:I know tapping up/commenting on other players is wrong, but it's so rife in the game that I don't see any need to get up and at it everytime someone does it, UEFA knows what's going on, if they want to stop it, they stop it. Are Barcelona cunts, sure, but everyone does it. And I'm not saying that makes it right, just wouldn't want to wast time wagging my finger every time another team does it.
    Does everyone do it though? Look at ancelotti ana Dalglish during the Torres and Suarez transfer , not a peep from both.

    Two transfers out of hundreds made in the window, obviously "everyone" was hyperbole.
    I know everyone was an exageration but if 2 big clubs can conduct themselves apprpriately (especially chelsea of all teams) why can't Barca?

    Chelsea tapped up Ashley Cole, if you look hard enough (which isnt hard at all) you can find examples of any big club tapping a player up.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:31 am

    It doesn't have to entirely instructed by the manager Fanatic, Rossell deals with the transfers and Pep just tells him what he wants when instructed. Rossell tomorrow can sign a player and just say "oh stick him in your squad Pep".

    If Barca players get asked a question about Cesc they are expected to answer, but the way in which they as a unit spoke to different papers on their own accord calling out for Cesc was out of order.
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    Post by Fanatic Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:31 am

    @denaC@Yh I know, that's why I said especially Chelsea.
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    Post by Cornholio Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:13 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:I haven't actually defended the comments though...just said that the majority of them were fabricated, which is true. I don't deny that they shouldn't be commenting on other players but you make it sound like they are the only team to do so.

    Not remember Gerrard "tapping up" Barry?

    Like I said earlier every club does do it, we even got fined some years back for Christian Ziege. But Barca, in recent years, have been doing it shitloads of times.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:39 pm

    First, I would like to know where people are getting the idea that Barca are claiming Arsenal of robbing the player. If you actually read the article, nothing of the sort was mentioned.

    Second, Barca aren't trying to "steal" Fabregas. In fact, Fabregas is the one who claimed he wanted to play for Barca.
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    Post by Torresxvilla Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:48 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:First, I would like to know where people are getting the idea that Barca are claiming Arsenal of robbing the player. If you actually read the article, nothing of the sort was mentioned.

    Second, Barca aren't trying to "steal" Fabregas. In fact, Fabregas is the one who claimed he wanted to play for Barca.

    Of course they can't steal Cesc...he's under contract with Arsenal. Laughing

    I'm just getting sick of Barca and their Cesc talk. I'm ok with them saying that they would like him to return to Barca, but when they debase Arsenal as a team, it is quite insulting.

    "Their team are just not competitive."
    "I am certain he wants to come to Barcelona because he has realized this is the only club where he can win."

    Just shut up and do your job.

    I don't care how good he is, Xavi= a Cunt Neutral
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:52 pm

    Torresxvilla wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:First, I would like to know where people are getting the idea that Barca are claiming Arsenal of robbing the player. If you actually read the article, nothing of the sort was mentioned.

    Second, Barca aren't trying to "steal" Fabregas. In fact, Fabregas is the one who claimed he wanted to play for Barca.

    Of course they can't steal Cesc...he's under contract with Arsenal. Laughing

    I'm just getting sick of Barca and their Cesc talk. I'm ok with them saying that they would like him to return to Barca, but when they debase Arsenal as a team, it is quite insulting.

    "Their team are just not competitive."
    "I am certain he wants to come to Barcelona because he has realized this is the only club where he can win."

    Just shut up and do your job.

    I don't care how good he is, Xavi= a Cunt Neutral

    Those are just a couple of players saying their opinions. Club can't really be held accountable. Like I said, Fabregas said he wanted to move to Barca. If he wanted to show respect to Arsenal, he would have made a definite public opinion on either direction.
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    Post by Drake Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:46 am

    Just read about this find it funny if Barca wanted to keep him get him to sign a contract Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Jamie Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:46 am

    Santa Cruz wrote:Just read about this find it funny if Barca wanted to keep him get him to sign a contract Rolling Eyes

    facepalm

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