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    Should it be scrapped?

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    Post by LFC_Grunners Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:34 pm

    Never liked it, I dont really understand why it is in place is playing at home really that much of an advantage?
    anyway what are your thoughts?
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    Post by Mal Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:36 pm

    Its good in the fact that it encourages away teams to attack but on the whole I think it's shit.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:38 pm

    I was reading something, it was like, it's unfair cos the team who are away in he second leg, could have An extra 30 minutes to score an away goal, if it goes to extra time
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:49 pm

    Cameron_LFC wrote:I was reading something, it was like, it's unfair cos the team who are away in he second leg, could have An extra 30 minutes to score an away goal, if it goes to extra time

    Exactly. This is precisely why it should be scrapped. During the first leg, there's no chance of extra time. If all is tied after the second leg though, then the game will go into extra time and the team that is at home is at a decided tactical disadvantage because a goal for the away team is basically worth two (well, one and a half, I guess. But you get the point).
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:00 pm

    Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:50 pm

    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.
    What the fuck are you on about you mad cunt?
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:55 pm

    The-Reporter wrote:
    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.
    What the fuck are you on about you mad cunt?

    Made sense to me.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:14 pm

    Mal wrote:Its good in the fact that it encourages away teams to attack but on the whole I think it's shit.

    What an insightful analysis.

    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.

    Because then the team at home in the second leg have an advantage in that they get another 30 minutes playing at home.
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    Post by Zzonked Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:16 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:
    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.
    What the fuck are you on about you mad cunt?

    Made sense to me.

    Me too.

    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.

    Because then the team at home in the second leg have an advantage in that they get another 30 minutes playing at home.

    Well that isn't because of away goals really though, is it?

    Edit: Wait, nevermind, I get it. Away goals make up for the fact that the other team is playing at home.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:23 pm

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    Post by Sean Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:39 pm

    Ever since our game against Barcalona away goals can fuck off Neutral
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:41 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Mal wrote:Its good in the fact that it encourages away teams to attack but on the whole I think it's shit.

    What an insightful analysis.

    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.

    Because then the team at home in the second leg have an advantage in that they get another 30 minutes playing at home.

    True. I guess either way you do it, one of the teams is going to have an advantage. I guess they figure counting away goals through extra time compensates for the advantage that the home team has of playing an extra 30 minutes at home.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:48 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
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    Mal wrote:Its good in the fact that it encourages away teams to attack but on the whole I think it's shit.

    What an insightful analysis.

    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.

    Because then the team at home in the second leg have an advantage in that they get another 30 minutes playing at home.

    True. I guess either way you do it, one of the teams is going to have an advantage. I guess they figure counting away goals through extra time compensates for the advantage that the home team has of playing an extra 30 minutes at home.

    Exactly. It's a good rule generally, but that's one part of it I disagree with. I'd just have it going straight to penalties after 180 minutes though, you can't exactly counter-balance the advantages of being at home with the Away Goals Rule, and being at home in a penalty shootout really doesn't make any difference.
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    Post by LFC_Grunners Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:17 am

    A tournament is to decide who the best team is, The best team shoud be able to play well both home + away without the away goal advantage
    simples.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:18 am

    Good when it works in your favour but when it doesn't you're gutted. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:38 am

    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.

    yhat's how it used to work in the playoffs for a couple of seasons.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:41 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Mal wrote:Its good in the fact that it encourages away teams to attack but on the whole I think it's shit.

    What an insightful analysis.

    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.

    Because then the team at home in the second leg have an advantage in that they get another 30 minutes playing at home.

    thats the luck of the draw though isn't it?

    by that logic the FA Cup is unfair because the home team have home advantage!
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    Post by menalawyerguy Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:44 am

    kyro7 wrote:Good when it works in your favour but when it doesn't you're gutted. Neutral
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    Post by Scuba Steve Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:49 am

    'orrible bastard wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Mal wrote:Its good in the fact that it encourages away teams to attack but on the whole I think it's shit.

    What an insightful analysis.

    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.

    Because then the team at home in the second leg have an advantage in that they get another 30 minutes playing at home.

    thats the luck of the draw though isn't it?

    by that logic the FA Cup is unfair because the home team have home advantage!

    The difference between that (for me), is that you can't really have the FA Cup any other way (not feasible to have two games for each round).

    However, it's not like a knockout round has to have that rule in place. They could easily say that away goals can get you to extra time, but it doesn't have to decide it.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:09 am

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    kyro7 wrote:Good when it works in your favour but when it doesn't you're gutted. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:25 am

    The-Reporter wrote:
    James ♠ wrote:Well why don't they just say away goals only get used after normal time. If it is equal after then then it is normal extra time, no away goals.
    What the fuck are you on about you mad cunt?


    Retard.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:29 am

    What the fuck are you on about you mad cunt?

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    Post by Lux Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:53 am

    It gives "worse" teams a better chance......also makes the two legs more tactical.
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    Post by El Jefe Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:56 am

    Rafa had two-legged ties mastered not worthy
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:05 am

    Jay.Davies11 wrote:Rafa had two-legged ties mastered not worthy

    Er...if I remember correctly his last two two-legged ties against decent opposition ended in a defeat on the Away Goals Rule, and absolute carnage in Stamford Bridge.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:08 am

    Always hated it. Pointless rule. No goal should be worth more than another.
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    Post by Barton Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:09 am

    Pointless rule, but it defo makes things more interesting.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:11 am

    I have hazy memories of Ruud Van Nistelrooy scoring a consolation against Real at the Bernebau and the commentator just screamed 'AWAYYY GOALLL!!!!' as if it was the most important thing ever. Laughing
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:14 am

    yarnbury11 wrote:I have hazy memories of Ruud Van Nistelrooy scoring a consolation against Real at the Bernebau and the commentator just screamed 'AWAYYY GOALLL!!!!' as if it was the most important thing ever. Laughing

    It was a goal which made it 3-1 in the first leg at the Bernebau, it gave United a small chance of progressing rather than a microscopic one.
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    Post by SBSP Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:16 pm

    Don't see what's wrong with it. The fact that the second leg goes to ET doesn't give one a huge advantage over the other. One gets 30 extra minutes at home, and the other gets 30 extra minutes to score an away goal. Confused


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