Malky Mackay

Probably just cunt.

Glen Miller wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

They did, my father used to use them when he was angry with my mother, but nobody really pays any attention to them due to cultural superiority the English have enjoyed over the years.

What were they?

Tan was the main one.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Interesting comments from David Whelan in Mackay's defence.

‘Jewish people chase money more than everybody else’

“If any Englishman said he has never called a Chinaman a chink he is lying,” Whelan said. “There is nothing bad about doing that. It is like calling the British Brits, or the Irish paddies.”

Keyser Söze wrote:In all seriousness, Whelan is pretty spot on with those comments.

Really? It's spot on to call a South Korean a ice cream or Chinaman?

I've never used the word chi nk I prefer slanty eyed fucker.

Theo Filippo wrote:I've never used the word chi nk I prefer slanty eyed fucker.

If any Brit says he hasn't said that he's lying. It's totally fine, it's just the same as calling an American a 'Yank'.

FCB wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Interesting comments from David Whelan in Mackay's defence.

‘Jewish people chase money more than everybody else’

“If any Englishman said he has never called a Chinaman a chink he is lying,” Whelan said. “There is nothing bad about doing that. It is like calling the British Brits, or the Irish paddies.”

Keyser Söze wrote:In all seriousness, Whelan is pretty spot on with those comments.

Really? It's spot on to call a South Korean a ice cream or Chinaman?

I was more agreeing with the Jew comment, but the ice cream one was also pretty sound.

He didn't call Kim Bo-Kyung a ice cream, that was Mackay. All Whelan said and explained was why it's OK to call people from China it, which was spot on.

Yeah, but I think the offensive part isn't that he used the word Ch!nk for a Chinese person, it's that he used it towards a South Korean. I don't know what the context was or if Whelan really thought the player was Chinese, but by defending Mackay, he's using the same stereotype.

Whelan probably did think he was Chinese and that's perfectly fine. Would you be offended and call someone a racist if they mixed you up with another type of Arab?

Keyser Söze wrote:Whelan probably did think he was Chinese and that's perfectly fine. Would you be offended and call someone a racist if they mixed you up with another type of Arab?

That's different. Arabs are an ethnic group. Chinese and Korean are two different ethnic groups. It's more like someone calling me Persian, Pashtun, or mixing me up with indigenous Africans. Or someone calling a Turk an Arab or calling an Eastern European a Brit.

But the issue isn't that someone made a mistake by thinking a South Korean was Chinese. To the untrained eye, it happens. Mackay should have known better. He knew the player was Korean. Whelan might have made an honest mistake, which I can forgive.

Makes me laugh that he keeps calling them fucking Chinamen.

FCB wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:Whelan probably did think he was Chinese and that's perfectly fine. Would you be offended and call someone a racist if they mixed you up with another type of Arab?

That's different. Arabs are an ethnic group. Chinese and Korean are two different ethnic groups. It's more like someone calling me Persian, Pashtun, or mixing me up with indigenous Africans. Or someone calling a Turk an Arab or calling an Eastern European a Brit.

But the issue isn't that someone made a mistake by thinking a South Korean was Chinese. To the untrained eye, it happens. Mackay should have known better. He knew the player was Korean. Whelan might have made an honest mistake, which I can forgive.

I'm not talking about ethnicity per se, more like similarity in apparences. Sudanese people are Arabs but you wouldn't confuse them with someone from Syria. Chinese, Japanese and Korean people look pretty much identical to the untrained eye. Anyway, would you be offended if someone mixed you up with a Turk or a Persian? I've gone to Turkish fast food stores and had them speak to me in Turkish.


My comment was about Whelan being spot on, not Mackay.

Keyser Söze wrote:

FCB wrote:

That's different. Arabs are an ethnic group. Chinese and Korean are two different ethnic groups. It's more like someone calling me Persian, Pashtun, or mixing me up with indigenous Africans. Or someone calling a Turk an Arab or calling an Eastern European a Brit.

But the issue isn't that someone made a mistake by thinking a South Korean was Chinese. To the untrained eye, it happens. Mackay should have known better. He knew the player was Korean. Whelan might have made an honest mistake, which I can forgive.

I'm not talking about ethnicity per se, more like similarity in apparences. Sudanese people are Arabs but you wouldn't confuse them with someone from Syria. Chinese, Japanese and Korean people look pretty much identical to the untrained eye.  Anyway, would you be offended if someone mixed you up with a Turk or a Persian? I've gone to Turkish fast food stores and had them speak to me in Turkish.


My comment was about Whelan being spot on, not Mackay.

Like I said, I wouldn't mind if some stranger who just saw me took an educated guess. I've had people call me Indian before and that offended me a bit. But I'd be even more offended if someone knew I was Egyptian and called me something other than Egyptian or Arab.

I will give Whelan the benefit of the doubt and say he didn't know the player was Korean.

Tbh I'm surprised Whelan was that much of an idiot. He should have just shut up, those comments aren't going to do any good ever. If he wanted to defend Mackay just say that everyone deserves a second chance or some other platitude that won't get the media hounding you.